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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: robh on 19 August 2013, 07:39:30 PM
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I have come to a bit of a "mental block" building a set of modular scenery for Spinespur games on a 3ftx3ft table.
I need some inspirational pictures of gaming tables that are somewhere between "modern zombie; all was fine until yesterday" and "Fallout; total devastation nuclear armageddon" looks. Both of which are great in their own way but neither of which really capture the feel of the Spinespur setting.
I am after something like modern Detroit ghettos (of which I have a bunch of google images) where the buildings are semi derelict/dirty but still recognisable and occupied. Recognisable apartment and office buildings not tin sheet shacks. I have started by trashing some old World Works card buildings I made for Infinity a few years ago to make them into film set style frontage only, but am looking for ideas on how to tie it all together as a theme.
Anyone done similar or know of any picture references?
Thanks.
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Take a look at my zed thread. Lots of junk scenery ontop of world works buildings and scalescene boards. Not sure if this helps but take a look.
Cheers.
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Thanks Mark, I have been a regular viewer of your zombie thread since its early days......wonderful collection of figures and scenics making for a great gaming table. I doubt my effort will be nearly as eye-catching.
Spinespur as a place/setting is pretty much unique in that the collection of evil psycho's, deviant's and sicko's who live there do not take any pride in the place at all, they actively despise it. I am aiming for something far dirtier and less well maintained........may not actually be a viable (or enjoyable) table at the end of the day.
These are some of the concept images I am hoping to achieve:
(http://meganrolph.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/detroit-bellevue-avenue.jpg)
(http://www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/detroit-slum-1.jpg)
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2012-11-30-Picture4WorldVision.jpg)
I have been looking through threads on various gaming fora but have not found anything similar yet.....hence the plea for help.
Rob
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Cheers Scurv, "Life after people" I am aware of (...god I hate the US TV habit of 12 min segments of which the first 5 min is a recap of the previous segment)
Detropia is a new one to me though so I am off to hunt out a rental/stream.
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Cheers Scurv, "Life after people" I am aware of (...god I hate the US TV habit of 12 min segments of which the first 5 min is a recap of the previous segment)
I concur. watched it last night after reading Scurv's post. Interesting topic and images but indeed a drag to watch with those recaps :-[
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Scatter terrain will give the streets that dirty look. Here is a link to what I have posted on my blog.
http://snitchythedog.blogspot.com/2012/06/street-litter.html (http://snitchythedog.blogspot.com/2012/06/street-litter.html)
The basic concept is to make litter that is attached in clumps that can be rearranged as needed. There are several toots out there on green stuff trash bags that are helpful. For paper litter, inked or "teaed" printer paper or packing paper will work a treat. At this point I cannot help you with buildings since all of my stuff has moved and I am still stuck here. >:(
Hope that helps.
Snitchy sends.
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Check out Bungle's table on page 2 of this thread:
http://vbcf.freeforums.org/card-buildings-t1038-10.html (http://vbcf.freeforums.org/card-buildings-t1038-10.html)
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Google "Gary, Indiana" - large parts of Life After People was filmed in Gary. Their church is particularly interesting.
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I can also recommend the book 'The World without Us' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Without_Us), which was written by the author of the original thought experiment article on which the 'Life after People' series was based.
In it, he elaborates on the subject, basing his findings on thorough research. It even has a pretty comprehensive source list in the back.
Basically, he describes the physical processes involved in the gradual decay of all human products, be they skyscrapers, roads, ships, crop fields or thoroughbred horses, should they all be abandoned at once.
I found it a really entertaining read and it should spawn quite some ideas.
Might I also recommend the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games? The urban levels should provide some ideas (Call of Prypyat especially). Also, the 'now' above ground scenes in 12 Monkeys, and maybe also The Road (can't judge; I have it on DVD but haven't seen it yet), maybe the original Robocop movie too; after all it's set in a near future, decayed Detroit...
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Don't have pictures of what you are looking for exactely but Plasticville's brand (O gauge train scenery) will help you
there's a lot of differents houses and buildings
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I'm suprised no one has mentioned Matakishi's Teahouse.... though I suppose it goes without saying. *shrug*
http://www.matakishi.com/makingcitybuildings.htm (http://www.matakishi.com/makingcitybuildings.htm)
http://www.matakishi.com/factory.htm (http://www.matakishi.com/factory.htm)
http://www.matakishi.com/waterfrontcitysection.htm (http://www.matakishi.com/waterfrontcitysection.htm)
http://www.matakishi.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=7647752 (http://www.matakishi.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=7647752)
http://www.matakishi.com/bobhartscity.htm (http://www.matakishi.com/bobhartscity.htm)
http://www.matakishi.com/hutchscity.htm (http://www.matakishi.com/hutchscity.htm)
Build them as per the instructions but when when you paint them, don't make them so clean. Lots of weathering and grime, soot, rust, and water stains. And don't forget graffiti. Board some of the windows over and maybe add some fire/smoke damage.
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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but you simply have to check this out:
http://worldsendpublishing.com/gallery/
Gotta be some inspiration in there.
;)
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check our Lead Adventure Miniatures gallery:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.313387945412137.72290.190766907674242&type=3
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http://www.skankgame.com/zombietown.html
http://oboylephoto.com/ruins/
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Thanks for the pointers guys, lots of threads I have not seen before, many hours viewing ahead!
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There's also the "Tokyo Techno" board from GF9
http://live.fowgf9.4thmedia.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=288&art_id=1971
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<snip> If I lived in the US I would tour churches selling dog doors with the guilt trip that if there is a rapture and you dont have one then there is a good chance you will be sent back to let the dog out. lol
My concern would having little kids/skinny kids ("volunteers" I am sure) go through the dog doors and unlock the house, though the gutter snipes I have known are deathly afraid of dogs (took the local gangs three attempts at poisoning our miniature Dachshund (insert selected invective here) before we had to put her down in the late 1950s. And we were the only house not robbed on the block that summer.)
Detroit, wow, the pain of seeing what is happening there (self-inflicted or not) is painful. Hopefully (though I doubt it) the "packs of feral dogs" thing is media hype. If you were looking for depressing terrain for a setting I suspect Detroit would be in the top 10.
Scurv,
All dogs go to heaven... said the guy who now has a dog after decades of none.
Gracias,
Glenn
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I am after something like modern Detroit ghettos (of which I have a bunch of google images)
Detroit's buildings, as you enter the city from the south, are all abandoned, dilapidated, and left for dead. It looks WAY more Mad Max than even Mad Max did. It's really kind of scary in a "nationalistic" sense.
https://www.google.com/search?q=detroit+abandoned+buildings
Click Images and you'll have what you want, I believe. I had a lot of photos since I travelled there often and took them for a board game I was developing, but honestly, there's so many that you can look at to give you both pause and inspiration that this shouldn't be a challenge.
Here's a great photo essay:
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/The-abandoned-buildings-of-Detroit-4674912.php#photo-4931752
Detroit slums are just houses with no windows, or windows boarded up. Bars over the windows. It's not "industrial", as much as poor, abandoned neighborhoods.
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without straying into politics what the heck happened to detroit!
Without straying into politics.......... lol
In short: Ultra capitalism and an unregulated addiction to greed driven free market economics. Predatory banking and weak (or worse) politicians.
It has been fairly depressing looking through the web for slum and ghetto images as inspiration for my Spinespur table as invariably they are attached to articles about the human cost of all this.
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A couple of weeks ago I read an interesting article about Detroit on the newspaper and how they arrived at current situation, but it will be clearly gointo politics.
From a hobby point of view, the google images more than Mad Max make me think on Carpenter's Escape from New York.
Another interesting fact is/was it is massively huge than most of the US cities
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3510/4083620961_08a72c45f6.jpg)
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Wouldn't worry too much about abandoned train stations. The small things that often get overlooked are more worrying- I could imagine malfunctioning/ not working fire hydrants in mostly abandoned areas might cause quite a bit of trouble later. Not just fires burning down decaying buildings, but spreading further into other still inhabited areas parts of the city, putting residents in danger.
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The money dried up. Japan's cars were made cheaper and better, so they got a foothold. Detroit (really most of the midwest) relies heavily on the military and automobile industry, so everyone went bankrupt (and Detroit JUST filed the largest bankruptcy in US history) including the auto manufacturers, who employ a lot of these people. Downsizing came, and VOILA! you have Fallout, but sans nukes and vaults.
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without straying into politics what the heck happened to detroit!
The why has "everything to do with politics" despite what some like to say/write.
Anything further requires a PM or even better completely separate communication.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Some more questions about detroit. Who owns all the houses and buildings? Have they already been stripped and salvaged? Brass Lead copper and ally. License to print money especially with the prices these days.
Funny you should ask that, there was an article in what passes as a newspaper herein Saint Louis that pointed out there are many lots owned by a corporation that are basically seriously abandoned and no one seems clear who owns the corporation...
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/mysterious-firm-bought-more-than-city-properties-then-did-nothing/article_32df225a-306d-5584-84ab-0c8313226614.html
Many in Detroit may just be abandoned.
Gracias,
Glenn
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My concern is that there is two users signing of with:
Gracias,
Glenn
>:(
There can only be one!
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Some more questions about detroit. Who owns all the houses and buildings?
A lot of them (maybe the majority?) are bank repossessions following sub prime lending scams which is a major factor in the cities $$$ shortfall. Thanks to clever litigation/contracting the banks decline liability for any land rates, property taxes, utility charges etc on properties they foreclose so everyone else suffers. The tax default runs into millions.