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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Argonor on 15 May 2008, 07:46:51 PM

Title: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Argonor on 15 May 2008, 07:46:51 PM
I'm finished assembling (and almost done green-stuffing) the 2nd hand Copplestone armoured Rolls I got last week. But how should I paint it?

I've been able to find a few colour pics, but they are blue-grey or dark green. Would that be fitting for BoB?? Or should it be a sandy colour?

HELP, please!!
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 15 May 2008, 07:53:37 PM
sandy! like this:

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/misc/07_05_25_bab_el_mandeb.jpg)

here's my painted version:

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/misc/07_05_29_armored_car_rolls_royce_1.jpg)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Plynkes on 15 May 2008, 08:23:49 PM
Yes, quite. Grey is nice, but I went with sand, too.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/RR.jpg)

I see the Prof and myself share a penchant for Gangster White Walls.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 May 2008, 08:28:11 PM
Depends on theatre and time.  Some of the early RNAS 1914 pattern were in 'Admiralty' grey. The usual scheme in France was greenish khaki although there were some spectacular exmaples of camo patterns. Locker lampson's cars in Russia seem to have been in the same colour. I've also seen an interesting dappled camouflage in Kurdistan post war.

Strictly speaking all the RR armoured cars in this 'scale' Copplestone, Company B, Lledo are all 1920 pattern. Post war RRs also came in a variety of schemes.  Overall bronze green was a standard UK scheme. In Iraq there was considerable latitude shown to the RAF companies, cars were painted in sand or green to the taste of the OC. For BoB you could go with whatever you fancy but either green or sand would be your best bets.

If you can try getting hold of a copy of David Fletcher's War Cars no colour pics but gives you a good feel for schemes.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: dadlamassu on 15 May 2008, 08:50:01 PM
I've seen illustrations of the 192 style RR armd cars in bronze green, sand and khaki.

A good article by a RR crewman is at http://www.rroc.org.au/library/sg_ac.html
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Helen on 16 May 2008, 01:23:36 AM
Well if it was me I'd go "Pink"  8)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 16 May 2008, 07:13:03 AM
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I'm finished assembling (and almost done green-stuffing) the 2nd hand Copplestone armoured Rolls I got last week
Congrats Argonor! Did you find it hard to assemble?
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: dadlamassu on 16 May 2008, 08:03:20 AM
Helen

The British army "sand" colour has a distinct "Pink" tinge to it.  So much so that the Land Rovers used by the SAS are called "Pink Panthers"

http://www.4wdonline.com/Museums/BMIHT/PinkPanther.html

So pink is ok!
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Plynkes on 16 May 2008, 09:38:42 AM
The pink thing was a one-off camo used to blend in with the deserts of Aden and thereabouts in the 1960s. It can't be taken as a colour guide for British vehicles in desert schemes in all places and times.

I'm sure you knew that but we wouldn't want some other poor sod reading this and then going and painting their WWII Eighth Army vehicles all in pink! That would be funny, but cruel.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Argonor on 16 May 2008, 11:14:16 AM
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I'm finished assembling (and almost done green-stuffing) the 2nd hand Copplestone armoured Rolls I got last week
Congrats Argonor! Did you find it hard to assemble?

Not really, after figuring out what goes where... and which way to turn the front axel piece.

But what are the 2 extra headlights for???
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Argonor on 16 May 2008, 11:17:28 AM
Thank you, all. A sandy tan it is, then.  :) And preferably before round 10 of the LPL  ;)

Btw., what is the 'tube' on the side of the 'turret'?? I removed it, as I could not see it in any photos I found....
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: meninobesta on 16 May 2008, 11:32:34 AM
(http://meninobesta666.no.sapo.pt/images/austin-finished.jpg)

I've painted an austin armoured car like this. really don't remember the colour I've used ... but probalby is some kind of grey khaki or stone grey from valejjo colours...

I took some ideas from the Osprey Red Army for the civil war book and from the kubinka web site:

(http://www.tankmuseum.ru/images/fp3.jpg)

http://www.tankmuseum.ru/
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: argsilverson on 16 May 2008, 01:42:10 PM
I don't think that the camouflage colours were so important in the BoB era.
The ideal is to use a colour scheme that fits your terrain colours.

In reality I think although the first studies about the art of camouflage appeared during or a little earlier than the WW1, the german scientist reached a peak in this subject much later in time.

During the RCW I do not think that the main concern was the exact camouflage as the same happened during the SCW. If the vehicles are used by bolsheviks the main feature were the slogans painted on them.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: carlos marighela on 16 May 2008, 03:40:55 PM
I take it th Austin is the Sloppy Jalopy version? Are those rivets actually cast on the model? They look the size of soup plates.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: meninobesta on 16 May 2008, 07:30:10 PM
I take it th Austin is the Sloppy Jalopy version? Are those rivets actually cast on the model? They look the size of soup plates.

it's the sloppy jalopy version with rivets added by me! they are VERY enormously BIG but I like the effect It really strikes out! :D

btw: Carlos are you from Brasil? if so -> Legal! :)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: archangel1 on 19 May 2008, 08:49:06 AM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Boggler on 19 May 2008, 01:18:22 PM
I did mine like this:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa273/jimjackaman/44c3.jpg)

...completely inaccurate but I think it looks the part  :)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Argonor on 19 May 2008, 01:29:21 PM
Is that one also the Copplestone one, or is it a different version??
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Boggler on 19 May 2008, 02:23:26 PM
It's a Lledo Models of Yesteryear diecast in 1/48th scale, so it's bigger than the Copplestone version and matches well with 28mm figures, especially the larger WW1 British ones. You can pick them up on ebay.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: carlos marighela on 19 May 2008, 09:47:36 PM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!

No need to wait then, the one Rommel is looking at is a modified 1920 version. :)

BTW Boggler accurate or not I really do like that paint scheme, it's sexy.
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: CompanyB on 19 May 2008, 11:21:59 PM
This site has some good ideas:
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/petersgallery.htm (http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/petersgallery.htm)

Check out his Rolls Camo!  Nice camo job on the Polish Ford as well...
Just finished a few models like a Sutton, Ford TFC and Armored Ford.  I'll update our gallery pages as soon as I can.

Brent
CompanyB
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: archangel1 on 20 May 2008, 12:56:55 AM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!

No need to wait then, the one Rommel is looking at is a modified 1920 version. :)


Sorry, missed that! I was more concerned with the camo scheme.  Now that we're getting the Rolls, maybe we can talk somebody into a Fordson or that beast of a Crossley with the big dome turret.

Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Helen on 20 May 2008, 12:57:09 AM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!

No need to wait then, the one Rommel is looking at is a modified 1920 version. :)

BTW Boggler accurate or not I really do like that paint scheme, it's sexy.

I like it! A  girls colour  8)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Argonor on 20 May 2008, 08:20:29 AM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!

No need to wait then, the one Rommel is looking at is a modified 1920 version. :)


Sorry, missed that! I was more concerned with the camo scheme.  Now that we're getting the Rolls, maybe we can talk somebody into a Fordson or that beast of a Crossley with the big dome turret.

Oooohhh, me likes.... me wants it!  8)
Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: Jules on 20 May 2008, 08:36:49 AM
The pink thing was a one-off camo used to blend in with the deserts of Aden and thereabouts in the 1960s. It can't be taken as a colour guide for British vehicles in desert schemes in all places and times.

I'm sure you knew that but we wouldn't want some other poor sod reading this and then going and painting their WWII Eighth Army vehicles all in pink! That would be funny, but cruel.

however to paint it sand with a pink and blue strip is OK as this was used in the desert in the early years.

Title: Re: What colour(s) for an armoured RR??
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 22 May 2008, 04:54:25 AM
This is the scheme I intend to do when Company B releases their 1924 Rolls.  Even Rommel looks impressed!

No need to wait then, the one Rommel is looking at is a modified 1920 version. :)

BTW Boggler accurate or not I really do like that paint scheme, it's sexy.

I like it! A  girls colour  8)
lol