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Title: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Major Weenie on 16 September 2013, 01:08:31 AM

So...

I'm plugging away at some of the Perry RN figures from the Sudan Range, and I'm one figure short for my last base.  But I have an extra figure left over from the crew of the Gardiner Gun. He's sort of standing there, with both hands down around belt level, and I thought that if I put a rifle in one hand "and some sort of standard" in the other... Then I could fill out my last base of figures.

Now comes the question, what sort of standard/flag would/could he carry?  Or might it be one of those company banners attached to the sword/bayonet.

Anybody have any suggestions?
MW

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: FifteensAway on 16 September 2013, 02:22:34 AM

Here is a link for you:

http://www.loeser.us/flags/english.html

Scroll down to the 1864 standards and pick or adapt one.  I think it will work.

Look forward to seeing your final product.

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Cubs on 16 September 2013, 07:55:00 PM

Are you sure a RN shore party would carry one? I don't even know if the colours were carried into action by this stage, after the loss of the 24th's at Isandlwana in '79.

Perhaps just a white signal flag?

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Damas on 16 September 2013, 08:03:19 PM

I'd say that the ship's colours would stay on board as the ship is sovreign soil and that a company banner or Union Flag would be carried on shore.

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: fantail on 16 September 2013, 08:23:30 PM

How about a pair of semaphore flags?
(http://www.telegraph-office.com/pages/images/bw-brown-signalling.jpg)
like this ww2 chap...
(http://eshop.friendshipmodels.org.uk/WebRoot/BT2/Shops/BT3667/4E73/3583/8B66/3308/60D9/0A0C/05E8/EA8D/WF35045.1.jpg)

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Hobbit on 16 September 2013, 08:30:14 PM

I agree that I don't think colours were taken into action at this time...however at the Siege of Chitral in 1897 the garrision made a Union Flag as the British Agent felt that it would be wrong to fight without one!

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: FifteensAway on 16 September 2013, 10:46:36 PM

I believe the comments above historically correct but I'd be okay with some 'artistic license' to brighten up the unit.

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: joroas on 16 September 2013, 11:45:27 PM

(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/g/gb~we.gif)

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Major Weenie on 17 September 2013, 06:30:03 PM

Just had a look at "Go Strong Into the Desert,"

It appears that, apparently on a bit of a personal whim, RN officers brought a white battle standard along with one of their shore parties in the 1st Sudan campaign.  But from the period illustration it looks as if they just flew it from their transport camels whilst on the march.  As opposed to using it as an actual battle standard.

MW

Title: Re: Royal Navy Shore Party Flag/Standard ?
Post by: Hobbit on 17 September 2013, 06:56:09 PM

Sounds close enough to allow the issuing of one "Artistic Licence, Wargamer, for the use of"  ;)