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Title: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress: completed models (28 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: grant on September 20, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/idf-first-company-of-centurions-finished-m577-command/
Latest update. Pics on page 3!
Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: Hobbit on September 20, 2013, 09:00:26 PM
You do know that it is 19 per squadron and that there are 3 squadrons...?

Even so it is quite do-able in 6mm. The old WRG modern micro rules are available for free and I think that these were adapted by the Canadian Army for training purposes...(they're actually not bad but desperately need some modern command and control rules)

http://www.freewargamesrules.co.uk/modern.html
Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: Cueball on September 20, 2013, 09:53:30 PM
First Clash is one of my favourites! I'll be looking forward to seeing some lovely GHQ kit painted up for it.

I've got 4th CMBG in 6mm - H&R mostly - platoon level stands for Cold War Commander.

12 Fighting stands of Leopard C1 in this TOE, which is what I use:

http://collinsj.tripod.com/msh_4cmbg.htm

Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: grant on September 20, 2013, 10:31:11 PM
First Clash is one of my favourites! I'll be looking forward to seeing some lovely GHQ kit painted up for it.

I've got 4th CMBG in 6mm - H&R mostly - platoon level stands for Cold War Commander.

12 Fighting stands of Leopard C1 in this TOE, which is what I use:

http://collinsj.tripod.com/msh_4cmbg.htm



Great resource - thanks for laying that out! I am not 100% sure of what rules we will be using. I'm going to start with a Squadron of Leopard C1, 19 in total. Still need to get them actually. I have a supply of Lynx and M113/M577/mortar carriers already, as well as the M109, and trucks for Svc. Bn. Lots of conversions and odds and ends planned to really make this look good on the table. Picking up the decals tonight to start on the M113 finishes. Also need some TOW M113, and Blowpipes.

You do know that it is 19 per squadron and that there are 3 squadrons...?

Even so it is quite do-able in 6mm. The old WRG modern micro rules are available for free and I think that these were adapted by the Canadian Army for training purposes...(they're actually not bad but desperately need some modern command and control rules)

http://www.freewargamesrules.co.uk/modern.html


Thanks for the link! I printed it out - odd but I couldn't get the file to save. The Canadian Forces version was called Contact! and is available. I have Cold War Commander already, as well as the GHQ Modern rules, and now the WRG ... I have lots!

Back to working on the project.  ;)
Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: FramFramson on September 21, 2013, 06:38:07 AM
The father of a friend of mine was actually the Colonel in command of the Canadian armoured forces in Germany during the 80's. Sometimes I get a few of the more shareable stories through him (there's more than a few he won't share). Usually the stories involve the American armoured forces getting hopelessly lost during a war games training exercise and showing up in funny locations at the wrong time.  lol
Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: grant on September 22, 2013, 05:00:08 AM
The father of a friend of mine was actually the Colonel in command of the Canadian armoured forces in Germany during the 80's. Sometimes I get a few of the more shareable stories through him (there's more than a few he won't share). Usually the stories involve the American armoured forces getting hopelessly lost during a war games training exercise and showing up in funny locations at the wrong time.  lol

 lol

Very funny.

I'll have some updates tomorrow. Infantry, trucks, and some other goodies.  ;)
Title: Re: A new blog project: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984
Post by: von Lucky on September 22, 2013, 10:54:24 AM
That seems to be a recurring theme (heard a version of this story from the brother of a British tank commander I work with). It was during night time exercises, and they were warned specifically not to enter a particular village... guess where he lead the battalion? :)

Anyway, looking forward to your updates grant.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on September 22, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/4-cmbg-6mm-canadians-c-1984-first-look/

Pics now up!
Infantry, armour, recce, FOO, some buildings.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: von Lucky on September 22, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
Nice one.

Thanks also for the link on the buildings.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on September 24, 2013, 03:24:42 AM
Nice one.

Thanks also for the link on the buildings.

Cheers!
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on September 28, 2013, 02:25:38 AM
Picked up a pack of Leopards, as well as the needed decals.

The GHQ decals for Canadians are going to be a challenge. White maple leaf, then a black maple leaf. Two part decals to get the white thin border, all in 1:285. Can't wait!

(well, maybe I can, but I will try and tackle a troop of 4 this weekend...)
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: Hobbit on September 28, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Just had another thought (sorry, I'm working in slow-motion at the moment); are you familiar with the "Armoured Acorn" website?

http://www.armouredacorn.com/
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on September 28, 2013, 03:08:15 PM
Just had another thought (sorry, I'm working in slow-motion at the moment); are you familiar with the "Armoured Acorn" website?

http://www.armouredacorn.com/

You bet! Barry's site is solid gold. If anyone hasn't been there, they should and download every PDF they can. It's invaluable research!

Thanks for the tip though - if I hadn't heard about it, that would have blown my mind.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: janner on September 28, 2013, 05:51:54 PM
Cool project, Grant  :)
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: FramFramson on September 28, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
My buddy sent your blog to his dad. We both thought it was pretty wild that someone is actually wargaming his command!
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on September 28, 2013, 09:11:04 PM
My buddy sent your blog to his dad. We both thought it was pretty wild that someone is actually wargaming his command!

That's awesome - if he wants to chat, ever, let me know. Certainly would like to pick his brain!!! :D

Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 22 September (UPDATED)
Post by: FramFramson on October 02, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
I don't think he'll be open for communications. But I did ask my friend if his dad had had anything to say and my buddy did mention his dad was impressed with the accuracy of your setup, recognising the correct machine guns, etc.  

Relevant background: This is a man who also visted one of the Canadian military museums, one which had one of his former leopard tanks, and who not only recognised the turret was NOT Canadian, but actually waited for the museum to close, then, broke into the tank, climbed in, and confirmed his suspicions (the museum staff had used a German turret - it had a different serial number and all the internal text was in German), then filed a complaint with the museum management.  

So if he's praising your accuracy, that's high praise indeed!
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 4 October (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on October 04, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
Small update:
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/4-cmbg-reinforcements-and-new-kit/
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 4 October (UPDATED)
Post by: Cueball on October 05, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Coming on nicely!

Just one query, you mention doing them in NATO 3 colour cam; aren't they in that very distinctive green, yellow-green and black camo scheme back then? Apart from the Leo in its special anti-IR green, that is.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 4 October (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on October 05, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
Thanks!



This is what I meant:
http://www.armouredacorn.com/Refs-%20Thumbprints%20&%20Images/CVM%20Index/M113%20Family.pdf

And before that, they had this awesome scheme:
http://www.armouredacorn.com/Refs-%20Thumbprints%20&%20Images/CVM/CVM%20Part%2010%20(Centurions).pdf - see the non-solid Cent.

Is that the one, or have I labelled the first link wrong?

Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 4 October (UPDATED)
Post by: Cueball on October 06, 2013, 12:43:51 PM
That's the one; nice, uniquely Canadian scheme.

I spent ages trying to get CAST finished for the 'Arctic Strike 2013' Cold War Commander Mega-game earlier this year - and in the miiddle of working away from home too! - and spent a long time painting that scheme. When I closed my eyes at night, I could still see it!

The camo Cent on the Armoured Acorn site is nice too. Very similar to a US pre-MERDC scheme I've seen. My only micro-opponent and I have got 60's British and Russian forces (to go with multiple NATO and WARPAC division's for the 80's!), it might be nice to do 4th CMBG for then as well!

Oh, and CAST never made it out of the box for the Mega-game :'( Managed to hold off multiple brigades of Soviets with a Norweigian Mech brigade belonging to Mark Bevis and supported by some rapidly diminishing Finn's!
 
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 - first look, 4 October (UPDATED)
Post by: grant on October 06, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
Hahaha! That's the way, isn't it? All that work to be sat on the sidelines!  lol
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 M113 WIP (19 Oct, update)
Post by: grant on October 20, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2013/10/19/m113-work-in-progress-4-cmbg-6mm-canadians-c-1984/

Latest update.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 M113 WIP (19 Oct, update)
Post by: Cueball on October 20, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
Wow! Had to log-in to say how good that M113 looks!

Top-notch effort there mate.
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 M113 WIP (19 Oct, update)
Post by: grant on October 20, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
Wow! Had to log-in to say how good that M113 looks!

Top-notch effort there mate.


Thanks!  :D
They are so much fun to paint. I'm off to paint the rest - first company to be finished today  :)
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, 1984 M113 WIP (19 Oct, update)
Post by: Hobbit on October 26, 2013, 11:15:53 AM
Lovely work, 6mm modern tanks were my first real gaming passion - unfortunately I all but gave them away when the wall came down.

What are you planning to use as your OPFOR for these chaps?
Title: Re: 4 CMBG, Germany, (13 February 2014 update!)
Post by: grant on February 13, 2014, 11:34:57 PM
Sorry for the late response! This project has sat ... for a bit  lol

Opfor are Russians, provided by regular gaming opponent Wally. He's painted a LOT OF THEM  :o
(need to get on to my Leopards ...)

Anyway, my infantry are about done, some basing to finish.
Preview pic:
(http://soldatetain.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_1259.jpg)

More pics here:
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/finally-a-post-4cmbg-1984-update/

More updates to follow! Thanks for looking  :D
Title: Arab-Israeli Wars update
Post by: grant on February 16, 2014, 06:26:17 AM
My Arab-Israeli buildings in progress:
(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-BMVO86J7-D.jpg)


And my terrain board, with some roads in progress:
(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-Q4M7RN4K-D.jpg)


http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/16/utabi-the-village-begins/
Title: Re: 6mm micro armour: 4CMBG, & Arab-Israeli Wars 56-73 (15 Feb/14: pg2 updated)
Post by: von Lucky on February 16, 2014, 06:32:21 AM
Santastic! :D
Title: Re: 6mm micro armour: 4CMBG, & Arab-Israeli Wars 56-73 (15 Feb/14: pg2 updated)
Post by: grant on February 16, 2014, 06:44:41 AM
Santastic! :D

 lol

Nicely played, sir! I did get the buildings for Xmas - fits perfectly!

Or... they are on sand, and it fits that way, too! YOU GET DOUBLE POINTS!  lol

And a genuine thanks for the response  :D
Title: Re: 6mm: 4CMBG, & Arab-Israeli Wars 56-73 (15 Feb/14: pg2 updated)
Post by: grant on February 18, 2014, 12:44:09 AM
Roadwork!
(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-C7GLHHDI-D.jpg)
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/utabi-keep-your-eyes-on-the-road/
Title: Re: 6mm: 4CMBG, & Arab-Israeli Wars 56-73 (17 Feb/14: pg3 updated)
Post by: grant on February 23, 2014, 04:17:49 AM
Added some Centurions in progress tonight - just primed - along with an M577 command APC.
(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-DAQW4IIC-D.jpg)
http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/centurion-shot-battalion-in-progress/
Title: Re: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress (21 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: Slayer on February 23, 2014, 06:15:11 AM
great to see you getting stuck into it Grant, all very nice so far :)
Title: Re: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress (21 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: grant on February 23, 2014, 06:41:29 AM
great to see you getting stuck into it Grant, all very nice so far :)

Cheers Brad! It's fun, doing one thing, actually.  ;) Focus!  :D
Title: Re: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress (26 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: grant on February 27, 2014, 03:38:12 AM
Update! First three of the Shots are highlighted up. Still lots of details to do. That's for Saturday.   ;)

(http://soldatetain.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_1314.jpg?w=650)

Also, on my blog is my now converted M577 pics. Had to dress it up somehow, it was too flat!
(http://soldatetain.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_1315.jpg)

http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/idf-centurion-shot-company-and-m577-command-conversion/
Title: Re: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress: completed models (28 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: grant on March 01, 2014, 05:58:05 AM
Finished three Centurions and the command M577 APC tonight, a day ahead of schedule! Celebrating by making a blog post tonight, and will do my usual Saturday one tomorrow as well. Productivity has increased since the minimalism thing took over my hobby. It works!

Blog post: http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/idf-first-company-of-centurions-finished-m577-command/

Preview pics, zoomable pics on my blog. Enjoy?

(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-PGE3R87I-D.jpg)

(http://www.myalbum.ca/Photo-N76GAD8J-D.jpg)

Title: Re: 6mm: Yom Kippur progress: completed models (28 Feb/14: pg3 updated!)
Post by: grant on March 05, 2014, 12:40:49 PM
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