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Title: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: doowopapocalypse on 30 September 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Just what it says--any recommendations for natives pre-flintlock?
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: Lowtardog on 30 September 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Not sure on spelling however Powahatan indians would be a good buy, I think Eureka sell them. You may be able to press some Norse age Indians such as Skraelings at a pinch? I know someone like Gripping beast released a set however think that was a limited edition

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_703&sort=3a

http://www.cpmodelsminiatures.co.uk/cp%20models%2025mm%20skraelings.htm

Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on 30 September 2013, 04:06:52 PM
As far as I know, the GB figures are still available, although the SAGA set (with battle board etc) is not...

You could try Brigade Game's "King Phillips war" range - http://www.brigadegames.com/King-Philips-War-1675-76_c_36.html
A little late, but it might give some scope?

The Foundry Blackfeet might also have some conversion potential as there is only 1 with a musket, but they might well be to 'plains'y for what you're looking for...
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: Galloping Major on 30 September 2013, 05:51:41 PM
Foundry did make some Perry sculpted C17th American Indians in the mid 80s, they disappeared years ago from their lists, but with recent developments, may have re-emerged, worth getting in touch with them and asking the question I'd say.  :)

All the Mohawk and Huron in our F&IW Range are armed in a very C18th way - so far  :D

Cheers,
Lance


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: NurgleHH on 01 October 2013, 01:52:28 PM
Foundry did make some Perry sculpted C17th American Indians in the mid 80s, they disappeared years ago from their lists, but with recent developments, may have re-emerged, worth getting in touch with them and asking the question I'd say.  :)

All the Mohawk and Huron in our F&IW Range are armed in a very C18th way - so far  :D

Cheers,
Lance


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
But all seems to have fireweapons...
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: Galloping Major on 02 October 2013, 07:40:14 AM
But all seems to have fireweapons...

Yes NurgleHH, that's what I said, all armed with identifiable (not generic) 18th century firearms and therefore not usable for early to mid seventeenth century. "So far" because there will be packs with traditional weapons only .... later  :D
Therefore, I was pointing out that I was suggesting the old Foundry figures as they were designed for the period in question, and would not suggest mine, as they were not  :o

www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: NurgleHH on 02 October 2013, 09:24:23 AM
Yes NurgleHH, that's what I said, all armed with identifiable (not generic) 18th century firearms and therefore not usable for early to mid seventeenth century. "So far" because there will be packs with traditional weapons only .... later  :D
Therefore, I was pointing out that I was suggesting the old Foundry figures as they were designed for the period in question, and would not suggest mine, as they were not  :o

www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Do you have some good(!) pictures of the old glory stuff?
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: Galloping Major on 02 October 2013, 06:21:37 PM
Do you have some good(!) pictures of the old glory stuff?


Uh?  :?
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: Lowtardog on 03 October 2013, 07:46:00 AM
Olglory can be very hit or miss, often miss. They tend to have un natural poses to get varients e.g. heads at weird angles etc also they can be 25mm rather than 28mm

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FIW-04&cat=250
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: NurgleHH on 16 October 2013, 10:45:41 AM
Maybe some of the Crusader Miniatures will work:

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=7&sub=58&page=1
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: doowopapocalypse on 16 October 2013, 02:54:14 PM
I'm leaning towards the Brigade minis. It's kind of strange that there isn't a set of just woodland indians with hand weapons. I'd dearly love a Chingachgook with his gunstock club.
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: mikedemana on 18 October 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Conquest miniatures does a Last of the Mohicans characters pack, but they all have guns. There ones here and there in their line that have only hand weapons, or have muskets that could be trimmed off.

Mike Demana
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: fastolfrus on 18 October 2013, 07:03:35 PM
Just seen a National Geographic booklet called "1621 A New Look at Thanksgiving".
Not a bad book. Lots of good clear colour photos, (from Plimoth Plantation) although mostly settlers rather than natives, but on the plus side you can get it on Abe for just 64p (plus postage).

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sts=t&tn=1621+thanksgiving
Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: nelsons-signal on 23 October 2013, 07:51:17 AM
Hello,

the only serious range of ECW/earlier Indians is offered by redoubt enterprises.

http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=980fefc5e33e8baf422791208f2bb39f

INDIAN WARRIORS WITH CLUBS AND KNIVES /  INDIAN WARRIORS charging WITH CLUBS AND KNIVES /
INDIAN WARRIORS FIRING/LOADING BOWS  ...

Redoubt matches in size the galloping major figures  - when the corresponding GM packs are available you can mix.

And there is the question of opponents. If you want to use Dutch and English settlers (armed civilians) the Redoubt ECW range offers the best available selection.

Regards
nelsons-signal








Title: Re: Best Native Americans for ECW/earlier?
Post by: fastolfrus on 27 October 2013, 06:45:46 PM
You could also look at AW Miniatures. They have some FiW Indians with bows etc and are always open to suggestions