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Title: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on October 20, 2013, 03:41:43 PM
(http://www.adpublishing.de/Kilrathi_Walker.jpg)
OK, it is not a Kilrathi walker, but I will use it in this way.
One of the example armies in my upcoming book is a SF Catmen army.
(See: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html) and http://www.adpublishing.de/html/planetfall_vide.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/planetfall_vide.html)

The army is basically based on Khurasan Felids, the Protolene Predator Assaultsuit is fitting nicely IMO.

(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Kilrathi_Walker_group.jpg)
The Kilrathi walker is from Critical Mass Games “Protolene Predator Assaultsuit”, the other minis are Khurasan Felids.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker
Post by: YPU on October 20, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Is that last picture to scale? If so then those walkers are a LOT larger then I always thought they were. Interesting, I always imagined them as a bit of a battle suit like weapon but looking at them like this I suddenly realise how much the belly protrudes and that it is in fact large enough to suit an entire 15mm pilot. Very interesting.

Alternatively it might just be your epic painting skills selling me on a model I previously considered Ok-ish.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker
Post by: Agis on October 20, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
The walker is 32mm tall!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker
Post by: Ajsalium on October 20, 2013, 04:37:57 PM
In fact you can use it as a 30mm robot (as I'll do).
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker
Post by: Agis on October 20, 2013, 05:55:10 PM
Absolutely, this baby has enormous crossover potential!  ;)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 10, 2013, 11:53:19 AM
(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Felid_Kilrathi_Hoverbike.jpg)
Kilrathi Hoverbike (from Khurasan Felid range)

And a group shot.
(http://www.adpublishing.de/Felid_Kilrathi_Group1.jpg)
Kilrathi walker from Critical Mass Games “Protolene Predator Assaultsuit”, all the rest from Khurasan

more: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 10, 2013, 02:15:40 PM
That jetbike is so Thundercats, I love it!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Laughing Ferret on November 10, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
really nice looking force  :)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: MrHarold on November 11, 2013, 03:10:41 AM
Really amazing looking forces!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: kenohhkc on November 12, 2013, 07:14:15 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: BaronVonJ on November 12, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Can't wait for these rules.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: beefcake on November 13, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
Awesome, Nice colour scheme as well. I used to love wing commander. So how tall are these Kilrathi. In the game I recall them towering over humans, possibly 18mm to a humans 15mm.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Brummie on November 13, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
Spiffing stuff! Very clean paintjobs!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: smokezombie on November 13, 2013, 07:49:24 PM
Quality! I love those Tigrid miniatures. I wish they made them in 28mm :-(
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Ajsalium on November 13, 2013, 09:05:58 PM
Quality! I love those Tigrid miniatures. I wish they made them in 28mm :-(

Yup. Specially the hoverbike (hint, hint, Mr. Khurasan).

And because I hadn't mentioned it before, these paintjobs are sublime. :-*
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 14, 2013, 07:46:44 AM
Thanks folks!

Awesome, Nice colour scheme as well. I used to love wing commander. So how tall are these Kilrathi. In the game I recall them towering over humans, possibly 18mm to a humans 15mm.

The minis are indeed on the bigger side. I will post some scale comparison pics over the weekend!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on November 14, 2013, 05:49:01 PM
Thanks folks!

The minis are indeed on the bigger side. I will post some scale comparison pics over the weekend!

Actually they are exactly the same size as other newish 15mm figures.  For intance here's a picture that Mark posted when he was still running Dropship Horizon (Felid is on the right):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZCuW7ZR7eB4/TkTzH4iuBBI/AAAAAAAAAXI/g_je9hO3Gg8/s1600/Ventauranandfriends2.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 14, 2013, 05:52:04 PM
Just measured the average Felid: 16,5mm.

Pics as promised over the weekend (actually A LOT of pics)  ;) ;)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 17, 2013, 01:06:20 PM
OK, more on the soon finished Kilrathi themed 15mm SF army.

(http://www.adpublishing.de/Felid_Kilrathi_Drahlti.jpg)
Shapeway "Dreamfoundry" upscaled kitty pointy fighter; used as a Light Attack VTOL

(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Klirathi_Forces.jpg)
Kilrathi ground forces with Drahlti MkIV. (upscaled version by Dreamfoundry)

(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Felid_Kilrathi_Scale.jpg)
Scale shot from left to right: Peter Pig modern IDF, Khurasan Felid, FoW WWII Germans

more: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Grimmnar on November 18, 2013, 07:18:43 AM
Agis,

Looking fantabulous as always. Always nice to look over a great line of minis when they have an equally matching paint job done to them.
About the fighter though. The Shapeway's seller shows several ships for sale. Which one did you get and which material? And how much of a pain was it to prep for painting?
http://www.shapeways.com/model/314192/upscaled-kitty-pointy-fighter-g3.html?li=shop-results&materialId=60
http://www.shapeways.com/model/314200/upscaled-kitty-fighter-g4-x-9.html?li=shop-results&materialId=60

Grimm
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 18, 2013, 07:26:02 AM
Thnaks!

I had frosted detail.
Not sure which kitty however, at the time I ordered there was only one big Drahlti.

The material is a real pain, you have to wash it very thouroughly, after that some additional sanding to get the print lines away.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Grimmnar on November 18, 2013, 07:47:32 AM
Thnaks!

I had frosted detail.
Not sure which kitty however, at the time I ordered there was only one big Drahlti.

The material is a real pain, you have to wash it very thouroughly, after that some additional sanding to get the print lines away.
Size would tell the kitty. I think the only difference i see on his site is a slight size increase and the other doesn't have a certain material option.
Baring how they look with the 15mm, how does it scale in the WC world? Spot on for 15mm or would it work better with another scale? Afraid my WC knowledge is shaky at best.

Grimm
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: MrHarold on November 18, 2013, 03:03:06 PM
That looks awesome man! Love that VTOL!!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Agis on November 18, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
Baring how they look with the 15mm, how does it scale in the WC world? Spot on for 15mm or would it work better with another scale? Afraid my WC knowledge is shaky at best.

A Drahlti from WC III is 30m long:
http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc3dralthi.shtml (http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc3dralthi.shtml)

My model is 8cm long, so way to small (30cm in 1/100). But bearing in mind that most flyer look too big when in the right scale, I am perfectly happy.

BTW - my model is the "upscaled kitty pointy fighter g3".  ;)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker and hoverbike
Post by: Grimmnar on November 22, 2013, 08:07:15 AM
A Drahlti from WC III is 30m long:
http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc3dralthi.shtml (http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc3dralthi.shtml)

My model is 8cm long, so way to small (30cm in 1/100). But bearing in mind that most flyer look too big when in the right scale, I am perfectly happy.

BTW - my model is the "upscaled kitty pointy fighter g3".  ;)
So you got the bigger model. It puts it in the 8 to 9cm range. Your saying to scale it right in the 15mm range that model would have to be at least 3 1/2 times bigger?
Looking back at your pics it looks near good now. A bit on the small side to the 15mm minis that are posing with it.
I would agree that a model 3 to 4x bigger would look too big in that scale then. Strange aint it how that works? :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike and flyer
Post by: YPU on November 22, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
I find that with flying aircraft, especially ones on reasonably high stands such as these you get a really wonky reverse perspective effect. We are used to aircraft in the sky being tiny things to our eyes. However since we look down on the board the aircraft are closer and thus appear relatively larger then the miniatures. When fielding relatively small aircraft with 6mm miniatures I find they look perfectly OK as they are flying high, they should look small, or so my brain figures I think. lol
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike and flyer
Post by: Agis on November 22, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
I am very happy with the size it has right now, its SF, who cares about correct scale anyway...
 ;) ;)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike and flyer
Post by: Agis on November 24, 2013, 03:09:22 PM
(http://www.adpublishing.de/High_Tech_Felid_Army.jpg)

Kilrathi landing pad (resin building from Critical Mass games with printed roof) with Drahlti MkIV (upscaled version by Dreamfoundry). The printed roof is from Dave Graffam Paper terrain, I simply added the Kilrathi symbol with Photoshop and faded it in. It was then printed, laminated and glued to a sheet of plasticard. After that some weathering here and there and a matt varnish.
(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Felid_Kilrathi_Landing_Pad_2.jpg)

and in more detail:
(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Felid_Kilrathi_Landing_Pad_1.jpg)

more: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/wing_commander.html)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: underfirewargaming on November 24, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
That is some really inspiring stuff you have done their!, keep up the great work man!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: MrHarold on November 25, 2013, 03:01:35 AM
Wow... beautiful and amazing idea with the printed roof!

Would you mind elaborating a bit?  How did you laminate the paper?  How about gluing to the plasticard?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 25, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Love the terrain and the flyer  :-* :-*

Is the flyer from an old computer game as it looks rather familiar (apologies if I've missed it in the thread)?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on November 25, 2013, 07:15:22 AM
Thanks folks!

How did you laminate the paper?  How about gluing to the plasticard?

I am a bit unsure here...
I simply laminated it, I bought a laminating "machine" a couple of years ago to protect my SW Mini gaming cards.
So stick the laminating foil around the printed sheet and stick the whole thing into the "machine".
Then I used plastic glue to fix it to a cut to fit plasticard.
The most important part is then the matt varnish, after that you can paint some weathering or so quite easily on the otherwise glossy laminating surface.

Is the flyer from an old computer game as it looks rather familiar (apologies if I've missed it in the thread)?

Yup as said in the threat, Kilrathi Drahlti from WC III and up.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: MrHarold on November 26, 2013, 03:12:24 AM
Thanks!

I figured it was regular lamination, but wanted to be sure.  I didn't think about the matte varnish, makes sense but genious!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on December 07, 2013, 12:38:51 PM
And one more, this time a Terran base under attack by the Kilrathis:
(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/Kilrathi_Attack.jpg)
The Rapier is from Shapeways Terran Fleet Supply; Humans and 6-wheeler by GZG.

I sneaked this and more pics into my  latest book: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/future_combat_vide.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/future_combat_vide.html).


Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Mako on December 08, 2013, 01:07:57 AM
Wow, everything sure looks great.

I especially love that Rapier Spacefighter, and the Kilrathi VTOL too, in addition to the buildings, figs, etc.

Who makes the Hover Tank, you show in the rules link, on pages 40 and 56?

I don't recall seeing it before.

Is it 15mm scale?
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on December 08, 2013, 06:14:02 AM
Big thanks! The nice feedback to my book so far really makes me grateful and excited for future projects.
Who makes the Hover Tank, you show in the rules link, on pages 40 and 56?

The tank is a NuCoal tank. 12mm (but as you see I use it with 15mm minis) from DP9s Heavy Gear range: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59353.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59353.0)
and
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/nucoal.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/nucoal.html)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: beefcake on December 08, 2013, 09:36:29 AM
Very nice. Those Terran look a bit too relaxed with all those kilrathi bearing down on hue gem. Some look like thy are going on holiday and are trying to remember if they switched the oven off.
"Ah don't worry about it, we'll be dead in a few seconds anyway honey"

Blini  autocorrect, sorted now. Aargh, blimin.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on December 08, 2013, 10:29:09 AM
Very nice. Those Terran look a bit too relaxed with all those kieran hi bearing down on hue gem. Some look like thy are going on holiday and are trying to remember if they switched the oven off.
"Ah don't worry about it, we'll be dead in a few seconds anyway honey"

LOL  :), you are underestimating the lightning fast Blitz attack of the Cats.
These poor apes are completely taken by surprise!  ;)
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Brummie Thug on December 09, 2013, 10:19:50 PM
Fantastic Work I've always admired the Tigrids they're great looking sculpts!
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Mako on December 10, 2013, 08:16:27 AM
Thanks for the info, Agis.

I really appreciate it.

Any progress on the UFO project, I seem to recall you were working on, a while back?
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: stone-cold-lead on December 10, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
Great looking models there with lovely paint jobs.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Engel on December 10, 2013, 09:18:03 AM
This is so cool.
Title: Re: 15mm "Kilrathi" walker, hoverbike, VTOL and terrain
Post by: Agis on December 10, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
Thanks folks!

Any progress on the UFO project, I seem to recall you were working on, a while back?
That one is unfortunately hugely delayed...