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Miniatures Adventure => Gothic Horror => Topic started by: Brummie Thug on 20 October 2013, 10:46:31 PM
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8 Days to go until series 2 starts. On my Birthday! as well huzzah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_NmmqGISc
Some interesting looking tales going by the trailer Tong for a start!
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Oh baby!
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More is Better!
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I'll be watching! :o
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Can't wait. :)
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Looking forward to this. :D
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8 Days to go until series 2 starts. On my Birthday! as well huzzah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_NmmqGISc
Some interesting looking tales going by the trailer Tong for a start!
Haha ... my birthday as well
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Lol Brill ;)
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Sorry, do you mean Ripper Street, season 2?
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Sorry, do you mean Ripper Street, season 2?
Theres ALWAYS one isn't there . . . . . . .
::) lol
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Theres ALWAYS one isn't there . . . . . . .
::) lol
One what? One American? Yeah, we breed like rabbits.
Anyway, thanks for posting the preview, I totally didn't know this was coming already. Can't wait.
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No nor me the facebook fan page had been quiet about it. Caught the trailer for it on tv last night and just had to spread the good will
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One what? One American?
No, a pinicky ass-hat ;)
Yeah, we breed like rabbits.
I like Rabbits . . . .
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The wife and I really like this show. As a side note Dracula starts this week, can't wait to watch that.
Jim
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The wife and I really like this show. As a side note Dracula starts this week, can't wait to watch that.
Jim
Oooh, looking forward to that one too.
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When did Jerome Flynn become such an awesome actor?
First, he's a big-chinned bloke from 'Soldier, Soldier', then he's 'the other one' in a mercifully short-lived singing duo ... then he goes absent for a decade ... then he comes back as a brilliant character actor in 'Ripper Street' an 'Game of Thrones'.
Really looking forward to both those shows as well. What the likes of HBO, Sky Atlantic and now ITV have learned is that you only need a good script and some good actors (note 'good actors', not 'big stars', which is only occasionally the same thing) and you'll have a very successful series.
All too often, what the BBC decides to do is find a good concept and then throw money at it instead of investing in a good script or good actors, then wonder why no-one wants to watch it.
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Jolly good, likewise I didn't know the new series was starting next either.
The BBC also appears to have done The Three Musketeers, don't know when that's due to show though, but I bet it makes me decided to buy figures. (Which, considering I sold off a collection some years ago, will be flipping annoying!)
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I'll be out so I've set up the recording already.
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Great stuff, but will it win me back from Peaky Blinders.....
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Peaky blinders finished last week :-[
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Peaky blinders finished last week :-[
Yes but my heart is still there.....
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First time for watching any of it and I really enjoyed it :)
Season one on DVD for me then :D
cheers
James
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That was a surprise! Didn't expect it to be a Monday night.
JB - series one was excellent.
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Really enjoyed series 1 and thoroughly enjoyed tonight's episode. Gonna rewatch series 1 now on DVD and try resist the urge to build victorian London. Resistance I hear, is futile lol
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First time for watching any of it and I really enjoyed it :)
Season one on DVD for me then :D
cheers
James
I can't believe you never watched it. 8)
I thoroughly enjoyed the opening episode, plenty of inspiration in there for Limehouse. ;D
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Was well chuffed with the first episode of season 2. Setting the scene for a great season 2. ;)
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I thoroughly enjoyed the opening episode, plenty of inspiration in there for Limehouse. ;D
So did, but as the series went on I found the stories rather predictable and poor.
It was very good from a visual point, at least.
I much preferred Peaky Blinders, which was much grittier and realistic with much more believable plotlines.
Whereas I find Ripper Street more like a Saturday evening 'family viewing' level of writing along the lines of Merlin or Robin Hood.
I can see why you, and millions of others, may enjoy it, though, just not for me.
:)
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The BBC also appears to have done The Three Musketeers, don't know when that's due to show though, but I bet it makes me decided to buy figures. (Which, considering I sold off a collection some years ago, will be flipping annoying!)
Remember, pins for thin rapiers, hair grips (ground down with a diamond disc mini drill attachment) for wider blades. We learned that one playing 'Flashing Blades' in the 90's!
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Is it just my eyesight (or memory) or was Arbuthnot's beard smaller?
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I much preferred Peaky Blinders, which was much grittier and realistic with much more believable plotlines.
This I agree with. I'd also add that the two leads are just perfectly cast, I do hope it was Sam who woz shot at the station....
Whereas I find Ripper Street more like a Saturday evening 'family viewing' level of writing along the lines of Merlin or Robin Hood.
I'm prettyu sure it's too extreme for that, though I haven't seen Merlin (and do you mean the old, old RH?).
I think the best part of RS is game related sets and paint schèmes, plus a few warband ideas.
I find Ripper Street to be a little bit of a pastiche of Sherlock Holmes, Gangs of New York and so on, the Bad Copper for me is Bill the Butcher. That said I do really like it and though the one-ich-punch was a nice addition, and with "the Horse" and the Elephant Man in one programme who can as for more.
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I'm pretty sure it's too extreme for that, though I haven't seen Merlin (and do you mean the old, old RH?).
I was talking about the level of the story lines being a little 'saturday evening'. Too many coincidences to be believable in any way.
I do agree that it is more 'adult' in content than the examples I gave.
As for Robin Hood, I was referring to the more recent offering, which was pretty naff, in my opinion.
I think the best part of RS is game related sets and paint schèmes, plus a few warband ideas.
This is the biggest positive plus point of Ripper Street for me.
Good visuals.
;)
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Thoroughly enjoyed it despite the new Inspector "Unintelligible" ... I couldn't understand a ********* word he said
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Thoroughly enjoyed it despite the new Inspector "Unintelligible" ... I couldn't understand a ********* word he said
Totally agree, played around with sound for a while until I realised he was mumbles, very much styled on Bill the butcher.
Really enjoyed this first episode, seemed a little more gritty too.
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I've not enjoyed (sic) such mumbling since the remake of True Grit.
It has got me thinking about a Tong gang though (as well as Anarchists and Bobbies) for IHMN or Pulp Alley :)
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It was annoying, especially since the archaic-sounding dialogue is something I really love about Ripper Street.
But who wouldn't love to play a skirmish game of a bunch of coppers with billy-clubs raiding a selection of suspected Celestial opium dens?
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Thank goodness other folk had problems understanding that character I had just put it down to 'old age' and useless ears.
The Chinese lead lady (see memory and hearing gone already) looks very much like my Tong leader in dress down day wear, can't wait to see her in Sunday best!
John
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I enjoyed it. Although I have to admit I'd been looking forward to it for a while.
The rivalry between the two inspectors should evolve nicely. :D
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Even at 34 I struggled to understand what was being said in some bits but tbh the dogs snoring in tail wagging now and again probably didn't help matters :D
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Speaking of mumbling:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-23328037
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Sorry, Mason, but you'll have to blame continued RS on me. Bought the BluRay, then discovered it made it to Netflix. With patronage like that, of course it continues. lol
I suspect Peaky Blinders will be a much harder find...
Okay, I've not watched all the episodes in season one, a bit from what you dislike. Doesn't stop me, but means I have to spread them out a bit.
Now, who was it that decried it as thoroughly un-Victorian?
I may well be finished by the time I see season two on our shores, though the difficulty I already have adjusting my ear to British causes me great fear of Inspector Mumbles... ;)
Doug
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Sorry, Mason, but you'll have to blame continued RS on me. Bought the BluRay, then discovered it made it to Netflix. With patronage like that, of course it continues. lol
lol
I am not totally coating it off, Doug, just saying what wrankled me by the time I had watched a few episodes.
I would probably still watch it if I didnt have anything more pressing.
In fact, I am going to give the first episode of season two a go after reading all the rave reviews here.
I may be converted yet, you never know...
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First Episode Series 2 (no spoilers, don't worry) EXCELLENT!
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the difficulty I already have adjusting my ear to British causes me great fear of Inspector Mumbles... ;)
You actually listen to the dialogue?
I thought we all just watched it for painting tips :~}
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You actually listen to the dialogue?
I thought we all just watched it for painting tips :~}
:'(
I'm so ashamed, so easily distracted...
Wait, how is that different from anybody else here?!? :D
Doug
Edit: Link (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59606.msg712346#msg712346) to quite-rightly-locked-by-Malamute thread. I'm so afraid someone will [miss] my brilliance...
Edit-Edit: Can Brits see Copper via Netflix?
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Edit-Edit: Can Brits see Copper via Netflix?
I certainly hope they can.
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Does anyone make a figure of Joseph Merrick?
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Does anyone make a figure of Joseph Merrick?
Your not the only one who has thought that after tonights episode. I was talking to Van Helsing on facebook the other and wondering why is there not a spring heeled jack figure either!!!
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...why is there not a spring heeled jack figure either!!!
I asked him the same question when EotD launched and he mentioned Victorian supers on his blog. Both figures mentioned would be great to have.
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THE PROBLEM with Spring Heeled Jack is locking the imagery down to just one Version.
(http://blogs.forteana.org/system/files/Spring-heeled+Jack.jpg)
Jack has been described by many "eyewitnesses" who claimed that he had a terrifying and almost "devil like" appearance -diabolical physiognomy, clawed hands, and eyes that "resembled red balls of fire". Some sightings mention that he could breathe blue and white flames, and that he had sharp metallic claws.
(http://peacockpete.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/springheeledjack.jpg)
Whilst most stories mention him having a "Devil-like" aspect - others describe him as tall and thin, with the appearance of a gentleman - which for some reason puts me in mind of a Demonic Raffles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles)) - BTW A.J. Raffles is another Character I'm surprised hasn't been done in Miniature yet
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/187/d/d/spring_heeled_jack_by_chrisrawlins-d567j46.jpg)
Some sightings insist that he wore a black cloak, a helmet, and a skin tight white body-suit - giving him an almost Victorian Super Hero look.
(http://blackheathbugle.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/springheeled-jack.jpg)
It's also been claimed that he was able to speak (English) - though thats just an incidental, that proves neither man or monster IMHO.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spring-Heeled-Jack-Philip-Pullman/dp/0440862299 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spring-Heeled-Jack-Philip-Pullman/dp/0440862299)
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But there are none to choose from at all. Look a how many different Vampire/Frankenstein/Werewolf figures there are!
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Dint copplestone do a rat boy of london/Lime street a few years ago he may fit
here you go, you could cut his tail off :)
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=CC
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Does anyone make a figure of Joseph Merrick?
The closest is one of the figures from Westwind, its in their freaks pack for the Circus of Horrors and he wears a bag over his head.
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2_39&products_id=354
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Depends on scale of course. If you wanted 54 mm (?) you could get this beauty from Smart Max: http://www.smog1888.com/en/smog/the-pit/doctor-proteus-treves/
I've been prodding various folk for a Spring Heeled Jack for ages (the one in the bottom photo in the earlier post is the definitive one for me). With so much interest in Victorian wargaming at the moment, I'm amazed no-one has done it. After all, I can buy any one of at least six Sherlock Holmes models, and most of those based off exactly the same archetype!
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8 Days to go until series 2 starts. On my Birthday! as well huzzah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_NmmqGISc
Some interesting looking tales going by the trailer Tong for a start!
Never seen, is it any good? More importantly, when the heck is Peep Show 9 on again!?!?!?
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My favorite Ripper film is still Murder By Decree with Christopher Plummer and James Mason...
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@ Too Bo Coo - I love it. It's easily my favourite show on TV right now. But it's not actually Riper related - it's about the police in Whitechapel in the years after the Ripper hysteria has died down.
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@ Too Bo Coo - I love it. It's easily my favourite show on TV right now. But it's not actually Riper related - it's about the police in Whitechapel in the years after the Ripper hysteria has died down.
Cheers mate, it's downloading now! :)
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Alpha Froge had some mutant zombie types (then mega minis owned them) sure one of them had a Merrick look to him
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Never seen, is it any good? More importantly, when the heck is Peep Show 9 on again!?!?!?
Yeah its pretty good. I didn't start watching it until late into the first season. Episode 6 I think. The title is a bit misleading and it actually deals with a lot of the problems during that time. This season is shaping up nicely so far as well.
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Yeah its pretty good. I didn't start watching it until late into the first season. Episode 6 I think. The title is a bit misleading and it actually deals with a lot of the problems during that time. This season is shaping up nicely so far as well.
I think the issue was Whitechapel had been taken already whihc was a shame. Quite like both programmes to be honest :D
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But there are none to choose from at all. Look a how many different Vampire/Frankenstein/Werewolf figures there are!
When did you first hear about Spring Heeled Jack?
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Can anyone recommend a good mini for the American from Ripper Street (Captain Jackson)? I love the Men of Hell Division set for Empire of the Dead, but the 'Not-Jackson' just doesn't look right. Reid and Drake are great though.
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When did you first hear about Spring Heeled Jack?
Only recently. But considering how long he has been about you'd of though somebody would of done it considering the big interest for steampunk, gothic horror etc, VSF
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When did you first hear about Spring Heeled Jack?
For me, as an American, I only heard about him about a year ago when I researching architecture and period pop culture to design my Olde Towne terrain (and come up with conversion ideas for EotD) and in doing so discovered, pursued, and devoured Penny Dreadfuls and other folklore sources. So my first image of SPJ is certainly the last one you posted, the one that looks like he's wearing a baseball uniform and could be the mascot.
Here's another pic, though this is similar to devilish depiction
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Springheel_Jack.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Jack4.jpg/422px-Jack4.jpg)
and someting a bit more modern (not really to my liking though)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_V73c9Avfduk/S-BdcwlNEQI/AAAAAAAAAM0/-OT3ZFoZ5yM/s320/TheStrangeAffairOfSpringHeeledJack.jpg)
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I'd never heard of SHJ until this thread.
He sounds a bit of a card "....Jumping out on unsuspecting servant girls, kissing their faces and tearing at their clothes with cold-clammy claws"
Sounds like your typical Freshers Ball
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In case of it's of interest, the BBc website has some rather good Ripper Street resources that are quite handy for painting and modelling:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03fvc1c/galleries
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03fvc1c/profiles/characters
And here's that Captain Jackson I was asking after - maybe I'll need to do a headswap on another figure, but I can't quite find the perfect match:
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/528xn/p01jscmn.jpg)
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I'd never heard of SHJ until this thread.
He sounds a bit of a card "....Jumping out on unsuspecting servant girls, kissing their faces and tearing at their clothes with cold-clammy claws"
Sounds like your typical Freshers Ball
Not as strange as the piquerists known as the London Monster or Whipping Tom(s) (the so-called 'enemy of Milk-wenches Bums') .
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And here's that Captain Jackson I was asking after - maybe I'll need to do a headswap on another figure, but I can't quite find the perfect match:
I can only think of trawling various wildwest ranges.
What about the guy on the left from this set? perhaps file down the hat/Moustache and add a little goatee either with paint or greenstuff
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1026
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That's a good call. there's also the 'not' Al Swearignen: http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1027
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Thats a very good one as well. Just perhaps putty on a hat.
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Only recently. But considering how long he has been about you'd of though somebody would of done it considering the big interest for steampunk, gothic horror etc, VSF
Kinda my point he's NOT a commonly known legend, THATS why there are not miniatures out there (yet).
When something becomes more publicly known - thats when we see them turning up in other media.
How many people know about the other Halloween for example ;)
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I get what your saying. Which is why I said I can't believe nobody has done a model of him yet!
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I get what your saying. Which is why I said I can't believe nobody has done a model of him yet!
Because so few people are aware of him ;)
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I think Spring-heeled Jack is slightly better known than Van Helsing gives him credit for. I heard about him in school, and I'm not even from London. Although I've always been a Victorian history geek, so I guess it depends on what circles you move in :-)
There are lots of very obscure miniatures out there - Spring-heeled Jack would sell no more or less than some of the weirder parts of a company's range, and there are definitely a few people asking about it - just type it into the search bar on this very forum. This is my favourite: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39595.0
Anyway, back to Ripper Street - I've ordered the 'not-Swearigen' from Artizan today, and I've located a suitable hat from the lead pile (what's that type of hat called, anyway?). Captain Jackson will soon be stalking the streets of miniature-Whitechapel!
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I think Spring-heeled Jack is slightly better known than Van Helsing gives him credit for. I heard about him in school, and I'm not even from London. Although I've always been a Victorian history geek, so I guess it depends on what circles you move in :-)
There are lots of very obscure miniatures out there - Spring-heeled Jack would sell no more or less than some of the weirder parts of a company's range, and there are definitely a few people asking about it - just type it into the search bar on this very forum. This is my favourite: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39595.0
Anyway, back to Ripper Street - I've ordered the 'not-Swearigen' from Artizan today, and I've located a suitable hat from the lead pile (what's that type of hat called, anyway?). Captain Jackson will soon be stalking the streets of miniature-Whitechapel!
I may be wrong but think it could be a Homburg
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I may be wrong but think it could be a Homburg
That ain't a homburg .. just some battered non-entity :)
The lead character (Lucky/Nuck) in Boardwalk Empire wears a homburg
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Hmm... It's close to a Homburg. http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/004094.php
I'd say that Sergeant Drake wears a Homburg:
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/528xn/p012kvsl.jpg)
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Good show, watched 2 episodes last night... Cheers guys!
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I think Spring-heeled Jack is slightly better known than Van Helsing gives him credit for. I heard about him in school, and I'm not even from London. Although I've always been a Victorian history geek, so I guess it depends on what circles you move in :-)
There are lots of very obscure miniatures out there - Spring-heeled Jack would sell no more or less than some of the weirder parts of a company's range, and there are definitely a few people asking about it - just type it into the search bar on this very forum. This is my favourite: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39595.0
OK OK, he's a "fringe" thing (and very much so) - you just qualified that fact with "Although I've always been a Victorian history geek, so I guess it depends on what circles you move in" - so my point STILL stands, that there's no Miniature because he's not penetrated the public consciousness yet - if someone did a Movie, or he got referenced in Ripper Street (or even Whitechapel) you can GUARANTEE we would suddenly see him in miniature.
ODDLY enough, there's a way of "keeping up" with him in Empire of the Dead ;)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/463/089/bbbcb8816a880977d5d1c34b3b485412_large.jpg?1363971243)
Anyway, back to Ripper Street - I've ordered the 'not-Swearigen' from Artizan today, and I've located a suitable hat from the lead pile (what's that type of hat called, anyway?). Captain Jackson will soon be stalking the streets of miniature-Whitechapel!
Ripper Street is easily the best thing on British TV at the moment!
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what's that type of hat called, anyway
If it was bought in Whitechapel it's probably just called a "Titfer"
:~}
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If it was bought in Whitechapel it's probably just called a "Titfer"
:~}
"what's a titfer?"
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"what's a titfer?"
Cockney Rhyming Slang "Titfer Tat" = Hat
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Um, it's sort of like a Game of Thrones reunion....
So far we have, by a very casual count, Jorah Mormont, Bronn and Roose Bolton...and I'm sure there are a few more. It's always strange to see a group of actors who are more or less still working together in a completely different series...
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I think Maester Pycelle was in one episode as well. ;)
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That wasn't what I was expecting this evening. Was still quite interesting and for all those wanting inspiration for a criminal gang of women what more could you want!
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I think Maester Pycelle was in one episode as well. ;)
I saw Barristan the Brave the other night....
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Actually, that's the one I was thinking of, I knew something didn't feel quite right when I typed it. ::)
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At the risk of veering off-topic again, I just saw a glimmer of hope for a spring-heeled jack mini!
http://thefairytalegames.com/
If you look at their characters page, there's a stat card for SHJ - and I believe they plan to turn every character into a mini (roughly 35mm tall apparently). Hurrah!
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I like the Holmes figure a lot!
lol, I named my PA road gang the Mad Hatters...
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Completely OT ...
I saw Strangers on a Train in the West End at the wkd. And the Madame from Ripper St was in the cast. She played a character who was a bit of a trollope
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Nothing like a bit of typecasting. She played a girl of low morals in Downton Abbey too.
Still, Myanna Buring. Eh? Eh? ;)
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She's a little cracker and of Swedish descent toboot. ...
And had i realised that it was she who was was stood outside the theatre [with the character who played the P.I.] after the matinee performance i would have been skipping up there like a schoolboy holding out the Programme and saying "please Miss, i'm a huge fan of yours and the other tarts .."
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She's a little cracker and of Swedish descent toboot. ...
And had i realised that it was she who was was stood outside the theatre [with the character who played the P.I.] after the matinee performance i would have been skipping up there like a schoolboy holding out the Programme and saying "please Miss, i'm a huge fan of yours and the other tarts .."
You wrote 'tarts' ! LOL
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Had to give her a quick (G)oogle. Seems to be the best and only good reason Ive found thus far to get me to watch the Twilight saga.
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"please Miss, i'm a huge fan of yours and the other tarts .."
Tongue firmly in cheek when i wrote that and referring of course to her role in Ripper St.
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(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2821/10851490706_19f5e39e5a.jpg)
So I finally assembled/converted my Ripper Street heroes. Captain Jackson (left) actually looks the closest match for the TV character now, despite being a conversion. the Empire of the Dead 'not' Jackson was weird - nothing like the TV character, and nothing like the concept art from the Kickstarter campaign. However, I used my trusty Dremel to remove his hat, and transplant it to the 'not' Al Swearigen from Artizan. A bit of liquid green stuff to paint on the upturned cuffs, et voila!
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Sweet nice job. ;)
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Very nice Sir!
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"please Miss, i'm a huge fan of yours and the other tarts .."
Tongue firmly in cheek when i wrote that and referring of course to her role in Ripper St.
No worries, I forgot some of the funny English slang...
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First one done - Sergeant Drake, in 'fighting dress' rather than smart suit. I'll try to stage some better shots when I've got all three done - just started painting DI Reid's natty plaid suit.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7398/10977327406_ebc95197d8.jpg)
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Nice brushwork
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Thanks - though I was more pleased with it until the camera showed up all the imperfections lol! I'll go back and tidy it up before I do the final group shots at the end of the project.
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Drake looks great. I know that feeling I take pics and find the faults then correct and re shoot the pics all the time. It always seems so obvious as well once you've seen it on the pics as well.
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He looks great like the waistcoat and whiskers.
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I saw Strangers on a Train in the West End at the wkd. And the Madame from Ripper St was in the cast. She played a character who was a bit of a trollope
A slight aside, did you like it?
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(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2821/10851490706_19f5e39e5a.jpg)
So I finally assembled/converted my Ripper Street heroes. Captain Jackson (left) actually looks the closest match for the TV character now, despite being a conversion. the Empire of the Dead 'not' Jackson was weird - nothing like the TV character, and nothing like the concept art from the Kickstarter campaign. However, I used my trusty Dremel to remove his hat, and transplant it to the 'not' Al Swearigen from Artizan. A bit of liquid green stuff to paint on the upturned cuffs, et voila!
The EOTD jackson is a bit odd...I think if you take the IHMN Drake, the EOTD Reid & do just what you did for Jackson you'll have the best looking version.
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A slight aside, did you like it?
It was fabulous. Highly recommended :)
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Yes I liked it too, though saw it a while ago in Canterbury (I think)
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Last nights episode caught me completely off guard Gabriel and his disciples would make a great faction for EotD or IHMN.
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Drake certainly shining more than Reid this season. Though Drake is my favourite character so I might be a bit biased. From what I've've seen of GoT Flynn is ok in that as well.
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Absolutely gutted that ripper Street has been cancelled! Apparently ratings have fallen since it was switched from Sunday nights to Saturdays, and now that 'I'm a z-list Celebrity' is back, ratings have fallen off a cliff!
Ergo, as with many great shows, it is axed without resolving the outstanding plotlines :-(
For what it's worth, a petition has just started up. I urge you to sign, tweet, Bookface, and all the other things that angry folk do these days: https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/reverse-the-bbc-s-decision-to-cancel-ripper-street
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Damn it, ITV have cancelled Whitechaple too, and now Poirot's finished! Guess I won't be watching much TV for a while, until Peaky Blinders comes back anyway....
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Well ... perhaps they need to put it back where it was doing nicely before they shagged it up with their scheduling?
Just a thought. Besides, who the hell doesn't put their faves on the planner anyway?
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I despair. Seems like I'm paying a £145 a year to a bunch of lobotomised twats.
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Theres a petition if anyone's interested?
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/reverse-the-bbc-s-decision-to-cancel-ripper-street?share_id=bxVxDjtQUk&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
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What?!?! It's cancelled? You can't even get season 2 in the US yet...what a drag :'(.
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Signed for what it's worth.
Goon's post says it all, the drama is admired internationally. Unlike Ant and Dec's fekin shower of a show. Grrrrr! >:(
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Cancelled? Oh Bollocks! :'(
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Typical British TV! They shove dancing z-list celebrities and morons munching cockroaches in the jungle onto us. They make 'stars' out of fake bake idjits whose only talent is being someone you seriously want to slap. And then they go and cancel Ripper Street and Whitechapel, programmes which actually made viewers think! BBC and ITV are getting more like the American networks every day - hatchet happy and completely risk averse! Rant over....I'm off to sign the petition! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Ok I've signed the petition, but I'm an American and one listens to us unless we threaten to shoot them.
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My mistake in the earlier post was that the show has actually moved to Monday nights, not Saturday. It's obvious that people watch less TV in the week, and nowadays most people record their favourite shows. I can't believe that all of the old 8 million viewers just stopped watching - many probably just record it.
Several options have been mooted by fans. Such as - get BBC America to jointly fund the show; move it back to Sundays; give it to BBC2 etc. Personally I think they could make a shorter series with longer episodes to avoid slicing the budget too much for a third season.
But what do I know? I'm just a grieving fan! :'(
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I despair. Seems like I'm paying a £145 a year to a bunch of lobotomised twats.
I associate myself with this post.
Petition signed
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As one of the authors of In Her Majesty's Name I am absolutely appalled!!! >:(
I have signed the petition and shall be broadcasting this across all my blogs and social media.
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I just don't get how they cancel something like this and continue to spend my money on turgid effluvia such as Homes Under the Hammer and Don't Get Done Get Dom (got to laugh at that one).
Ripper Street is a first class drama with a first class cast. The plotlines are flowing marvellously, the storylines are refreshingly original, nothing has stagnated and yet they pull it. Is there something we're not being told? If they are pandering to ratings then prepare yourself for the replacement of culture with celeb reality shows, Eastenders and a never ending flow of cameras following the emergency services.
I have to admit that I'm one of those who recorded Ripper Street as I don't have time to watch it Monday night. In fact I also downloaded it from the i-player. Will be interesting to know what the number are there.
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I suspect it cost a bit more to produce than Homes Under the Hammer, and Don't Get Done Get Dom.
Upset about this one though. Also signed the petition.
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My point being bin them and keep Ripper Street. Put a blank screen in their place and no one will notice ;)
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I don't believe it, as Victor Meldrew would say. I'm a Geordie and I can't stand that Ant and Dec crap. THE CID.
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Absolutely gutted. Ripper Street was the only thing I watched on TV.
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First BBC America cancels COPPER now the BBC cancels RIPPER STREET, I just canceled my cable there is nothing worth watching.
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GRRRRRRR!!!
It does sound like BBC is going American... :-[
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On the plus side, just think how Grade cancelled Dr Who and it came back with a bang. So long as we don't have to wait 16 years for the next episode.....
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Only 871 signatures needed to reach the required 5000. Spread the word people ...
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GRRRRRRR!!!
It does sound like BBC is going American... :-[
Ironically, when I Googled 'Ripper Street cancelled' it took me to an American site where BBC America customers were ranting and up in arms about the same thing. They were all talking about cancelling their subscriptions.
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It's a damned shame this has been cancelled, it's probably the only decent thing on the telly at the moment.
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Incidentally, here's where to complain to the BBC if you feel like it -
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?reset=#anchor
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Complaint made with a link to this thread ...
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Ironically, when I Googled 'Ripper Street cancelled' it took me to an American site where BBC America customers were ranting and up in arms about the same thing. They were all talking about cancelling their subscriptions.
I have seen people say these kind of things before (everything from unhappy people in bad work situations to members suffering under a Church leader abusing his position in an egregious manner of micro-managing and controlling members of a session and even a Presbytery that led to a large percentage of those who made those kind of statements actually going to other churches.) Unfortunately it often only stops at verbal expressions of anger and frustration. The fact that the petition is gaining signatures is a good sign but remember that if there are insufficient numbers or the signatures are slow to accumulate the impact is less. TV management types are not concerned about "snowballs" of protest/dismay but if it looks like that "snowball" is turning into an "avalanche" they are more more prone to adjust their stupidity.
Also the longer it takes to stop a change the more likely writers and actors will have taken on other commitments. To use a military metaphor, you must strike fast, you must strike hard, and you must strike repeatedly until your foe acquiesces to your demands. Numbers count! pun intended... ;)
It can be done but delay and lack of passion/commitment can undo your efforts.
Good Luck!
Gracias,
Glenn
Who doesn't watch TV because most TV seems to degrade culture (Trash-vision) but is sad to see what many feel is a superior dramatic entertainment product foolishly overthrown for dreck
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I despair. Seems like I'm paying a £145 a year to a bunch of lobotomised twats.
This!
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Signed petition too. Bunch of f**kwits >:(
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When CBS cancelled "Jericho", a huge fan base sent cans of nuts to the executives, in excess of 18,000 lbs, and in the end at least gave the series "proper" closure.
Just saying, be a shame if three tons of old medal were to end up on Tony Hall's desk. Not that I would suggest sending old military medals in reference to Col. Faulkner or anything.
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I associate myself with this post.
Petition signed
Me to. I am not sure a mad foreign signature has any impact. However, British TV drama rates very highly in Sweden. There is a surplus of pottering murder stories like Murders in Midsommer, to be sure, but Whitechapple, Sherlock, Ripper Street etc are all the shit. In fact, HBO and BBC are the most reliable providers of quality drama in the world, companies which other just occasionally manage to copy.
I effectively screen the 11th plagues of Egypt like Top Gear, Come dine with me
EDIT: "11th plagues of Egypt", there might be a show in that title I should start writing...
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5,300 signatures as of this morning! Lets keep the pressure up everyone!
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And the good old Rt has chipped in
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-12-07/ripper-street-92-of-readers-are-against-axing-of-bbc1-drama
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Sadly sacking the moron responsible for this decision won't work either, because they'll need a few million to slip into his severance package.
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As of a few minutes ago just over 5,000 have signed the petition.
Link to this petition?
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Link to this petition?
a refresher for those who interested
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/reverse-the-bbc-s-decision-to-cancel-ripper-street?share_id=bxVxDjtQUk&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
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Busted backs the petition, Good god ive only caught on to ripper street this season thanks to you guys on LAF >:(
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I just signed!
Excellent series, I do hope it returns
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Signed, not that I expect my vote to count.
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Signed, not that I expect my vote to count.
At least it shows your anger at the loss of a quality show.
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Signed!
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don't forget to complain to the Beeb. There was a link earlier. Feel free to complain each day, since the only way it gets heard is through a daily summary report.
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don't forget to complain to the Beeb. There was a link earlier. Feel free to complain each day, since the only way it gets heard is through a daily summary report.
Could you post that link again.
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Could you post that link again.
Top of the page... ;)
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Incidentally, here's where to complain to the BBC if you feel like it -
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?reset=#anchor
Was this the link you were looking for?
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It's a bit awkward because they want you to give specific details of a single episode in order to make the complaint, so I just put in the last episode's details and then typed the complaint at the end.
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I just clicked on 'General BBC TV' rather than BBC1, apparently more departments receive it that way.
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Ha! That might have things easier for me!
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Yep, I have signed the petition too.
Just cant get my head round it.
The Beebs trump card is that it is centrally funded and doesn't have to chase viewing figures for advertising revenue. The quality inherant in such programming sold the product internationally. The money coming in from commercial sources helps fund further quality output with high production values. Such as Ripper street.
I think Ripper street is more accessible to a global audience than Peaky blinders for example and therefore more likely to generate income for the beeb. Very shortsighted decision for auntie.
F..k the viewing figures. I have 500 channels of rubbish on my telly, the good stuff is thin on the ground already.
Hard to justify a television lisence fee to fund the Beeb when you are indestinguishable from your commercial competitors.
Disgruntled from South Wales.
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Yep, I have signed the petition too.
Just cant get my head round it.
The Beebs trump card is that it is centrally funded and doesn't have to chase viewing figures for advertising revenue. The quality inherant in such programming sold the product internationally. The money coming in from commercial sources helps fund further quality output with high production values. Such as Ripper street.
I think Ripper street is more accessible to a global audience than Peaky blinders for example and therefore more likely to generate income for the beeb. Very shortsighted decision for auntie.
F..k the viewing figures. I have 500 channels of rubbish on my telly, the good stuff is thin on the ground already.
Hard to justify a television lisence fee to fund the Beeb when you are indestinguishable from your commercial competitors.
Disgruntled from South Wales.
Well said.
I signed petition too and shared it on facebook. Couple of friends signed and shared it too so hopefully that'll generate some more numbers.
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What happens when it gets to 7500 Bezzo?
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Just signed...
Unfortunately it would seem that the entertain and educate ethos of Lord Reith has now been subsumed in a politically correct generation of 'executives' that criticise raw historical drama like Ripper Street for its graphic depiction of Victorian crime (which compared to the reality is still pretty tame) but considers ritual humiliation of human beings fantastic entertainment for the masses. I wonder what a psychiatrist would make of these people...
Some years ago in the eighties, before reality TV really took hold, one commentator once said that if the government opened an arena and started feeding christians to the lions, there would be no shortage of spectators willing to pay to watch... I thought he was exaggerating, but now I believe we are reaching the stage when it would be compulsive viewing on CBBC!
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Some years ago in the eighties, before reality TV really took hold, one commentator once said that if the government opened an arena and started feeding christians to the lions, there would be no shortage of spectators willing to pay to watch... I thought he was exaggerating, but now I believe we are reaching the stage when it would be compulsive viewing on CBBC!
Replace "christians" with "people who make decisions like this" and you've got my money.
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"Twinkle, on account of his sunny disposition".
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I really enjoyed tonight's show, a real shame it will be no more.... Kind of like Deadwood from HBO
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I'm gutted, this show is great and I feel this series has developed nicely. :(
Signed the petition, up to 8548 now! :)
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If any of you guys are on Twitter, there's a @saveripperst account to follow, with lots of support for the show. Also tag your tweets with #saveripperstreet. It got a big boost last night as #RipperStreet was trending an hour after the show finished, which is pretty unusual.
The BBC must surely be hearing the support for the show, but they have yet to respond.
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Some years ago in the eighties, before reality TV really took hold, one commentator once said that if the government opened an arena and started feeding christians to the lions, there would be no shortage of spectators willing to pay to watch... I thought he was exaggerating, but now I believe we are reaching the stage when it would be compulsive viewing on CBBC!
Oooh, ooooh! Could we not, please, let loose some lions onto the dance floor in Strictly Come Dancing! The viewer numbers would shoot through the ceiling! Locking Jeremy Clarkson into the back of a van with a starved spotted hyena would make splendid TV to. (Or have they done that already?)
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Oooh, ooooh! Could we not, please, let loose some lions onto the dance floor in Strictly Come Dancing! The viewer numbers would shoot through the ceiling! Locking Jeremy Clarkson into the back of a van with a starved spotted hyena would make splendid TV to. (Or have they done that already?)
They tried it but the animal welfare charities went ballistic. They dont think the hyena will ever recover.
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Some years ago in the eighties, before reality TV really took hold, one commentator once said that if the government opened an arena and started feeding christians to the lions, there would be no shortage of spectators willing to pay to watch... I thought he was exaggerating, but now I believe we are reaching the stage when it would be compulsive viewing on CBBC!
Remember how we laughed to see snippets of Japan's 'Endurance' show? Oh those crazy Nippons, no way we'd ever stoop to humiliating and torturing people like that on TV ... urm ...
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I only recently 'discovered' Ripper Street and it has all the hallmarks of a great series.
Petition signed.
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I have complained twice - once on Friday and once today.
I feel another complaint coming on tomorrow.
You know 'ow us bean counters are: 'Here, look at all these complaints! Best cancel all the sooner. LOOK AT THE METRICS!' :o
I will say, I feel a bit shoddily treated; remember the part where I bought the Blu-Ray AND watch on Netflix?
Doug
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I just saw the return of Drake episode it was smashing.
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I just saw the return of Drake episode it was smashing.
powerful
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Potentially great news today. Ripper Street producers in talks with Lovefilm to secure alternative funding. Looks like the online campaign is attracting backers!
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Lets hope so! :D
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I was talking to the missus last night and saying it just can't end, with so much public outcry. We then realised that a lot of the noise about this has been advertised by the BBC themselves. A cunning ploy to attract outside money?
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Ripper Street Kickstarter?????
Worked for Veronica Mars
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A cunning ploy to attract outside money?
Cynical but probably true :?
cheers
James
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I was talking to the missus last night and saying it just can't end, with so much public outcry. We then realised that a lot of the noise about this has been advertised by the BBC themselves. A cunning ploy to attract outside money?
We need questions raised in parliament.
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Well, however they get there, I hope it works.
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Cynical but probably true :?
cheers
James
Bugger! Played again by the establishment ...
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Ripper Street Kickstarter?????
I was only thinking that today on the coach home... great minds.... or is that fools...
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We need questions raised in parliament.
We need standards raised in parliament!
Or failing that, lock the doors and raze parliament!
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We need standards raised in parliament!
Or failing that, lock the doors and raze parliament!
True but if they are demanding the return of Ripper Street then they for once would be doing something useful.
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I have a question, when does the filming for GoT S4 start? And how much of a role does Jerome Flynn have in it? Maybe this plays some role??
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"... and I a man of old stone..."
Surely that can't vut that after such a cracking finish!
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But I never thought I'd admire Jerome Flynn as an actor. It is a long way from Soldier, Solider. He blows McFadden off the set.
Get awayn he's not Jerome of Robson and Jerome is he?
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Agreed, a cracking episode.
How can they flush such quality ?
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What corking end to the season! ;) ;)
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Fantastic show top shelf all around.
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Sergeant Drake. A man who has escaped a shady past to become something great:
(http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bronn.jpg)
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Get the F out of here.... Why can I see the New Jerome kicking the tar out of the Early Jerome....??
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Everyone has a secret boy band past.
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If you read his Wikipedia page, he essentially got duped by a religious cult, and spent all of his money living in some sort of upper crust commune. I think the experience must have made him an angry man! lol
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Signed.
Educate, inform, entertain seems to have dropped by the way on some BBC decisions.
Also complained to the BBC. Got this back in 15mins from them:
'Thanks for your contact regarding ‘Ripper Street’ broadcast on BBC One.
We understand you are unhappy that the series hasn't been recommissioned.
While it had been announced that Ripper Street would not be returning, we are currently looking at partnerships that could enable its return but at better value to licence fee payers. We will be able to provide more information on this in due course.
Nevertheless, as we are guided by audience feedback, please be assured that your concerns have been registered to our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback made available throughout the BBC, including to programme producers, as well as members of senior management.
The audience logs help to shape future decisions regarding BBC programming and output.'
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Got the same reply this afternoon. There is some hope.......
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Me too ... at least it's nice to see they've had so many compaints on this one subject they have given up giving actual individual replies and have simply employed copy and paste.
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Did you send a link to this thread?
Just in case they are influenced by the international nature of the debate?
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Not getting my hopes up but it would be brilliant if Ripper street returned. Too many new plot lines hinted at in the last episode to let it end like that!
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Did you send a link to this thread?
Just in case they are influenced by the international nature of the debate?
I did. :D
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Wonder if anyone from the beeb read through the thread.
It would be interesting if they did and took any notice - given that several manufacturers and publishers (eg Osprey) have representatives here, why not a chap from Broadcasting House.
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Fastolfrus
Publishers and manufacturers have an interest in satisfying their market. If they don't they will go belly up. In the BBC complete and utter incompetence is rewarded with a six figure settlement to help you get over the stress of being useless. And us licence payers foot the bill.
And if a Beeb executive has shown extraordinary uselessness and incompetentence, he or she might get a seat in the House of Lords to carry on the good charade (but reduced to half an hour work a day so it does not get too tiring for the poor darling).
Seriously, it is good to know that there are subscribers left who value well written drama over ritual humiliation or 'Bread and Circuses'. I have heard the Beeb are exploring some kind of link up with a private production company to continue 'Ripper', though I'd have thought an organisation that can afford to send 140 employees to cover one funeral (albeit of a notable statesman) has the funds to cover such things as dramatic entertainment itself.
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The generic email reply says the BBC are considering allowing another company to back it financially, then buy Ripper Street back from them.
Genius.
They immediately lose all future revenue from the resale of it around the world and hand the development of the plot and characters to someone else to benefit from.
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The generic email reply says the BBC are considering allowing another company to back it financially, then buy Ripper Street back from them.
Genius.
They immediately lose all future revenue from the resale of it around the world and hand the development of the plot and characters to someone else to benefit from.
They seem to be a (sarcasm and irony alert) "Perfect Bureaucracy" -- I am familiar with those - - so that makes "perfect sense" I am sure.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Deliver us from the accountants.
Money tight? Cut stuff.
Not 'develop better long term financial strategy', not 'maximise income', not 'look beyond next week' .... cut stuff.
It happened with a nursery I was Chair of. We were up to the maximum of allowable pupils per staff, with a massive waiting list of other kids wanting to get in. We were only allowed a certain number of children per staff, so the proportions were crucial and each staff member represented at least a 100% net profit of fees to wages.
Finance Dept recommended sacking 2 staff when the money got tight. "But, that would immediately cut our income by 20%," says I.
"Yes, but it would cut costs."
"No, it would in fact increase net costs massively, because we make a profit off each staff member's wages proportionate to pupil fees, thus we would lose 20% of our income, which would no longer be able to offset the wages and all other costs would remain the same. In fact, if anything we need to hire 3 more people to increase our income by 33%."
"Oh, we can't do that, that would increase costs."
How the hell do some people find their way into their jobs?
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Strange how the cost cutting accountants/managers never suggest that their jobs should be cut, normally they take a pay rise because of the added responsibilities of overseeing the cost cuts.
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An appropriate time to close this thread as it has now been commissioned for a third series. :)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=61552.0