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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: grant on 22 November 2013, 05:18:12 AM
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http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/nostalgia/
Blog post, all about nostalgia!
I was recently reading and thoroughly enjoying this post over on Lead Adventure:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=32158.0
For anyone who is familiar with the best days of the Dungeons & Dragons game, the thread will be like a trip through time. The poster, Spooktalker, has an amazing collection of vintage and new miniatures that are from those halcyon days, or evoke them.
As a result of reading through them, I was inspired to haul out my collection and take some photos.
First up, is my oldest collection, the “white box” set, plus all the supplements from the beginning of D&D.
(http://soldatetain.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/img_0951.jpg?w=650)
The rest of the pics are here: http://soldatetain.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/nostalgia/
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A classic. Yours has survived remarkably well. I started earnestly with Moldvay B/X after a brief bout with Holmes Bluebook. Still play B/X to this day. I never owned the LBBs so I may buy the premium reprints in Dec. I just hate the cover art. Thanks for sharing.
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A classic. Yours has survived remarkably well. I started earnestly with Moldvay B/X after a brief bout with Holmes Bluebook. Still play B/X to this day. I never owned the LBBs so I may buy the premium reprints in Dec. I just hate the cover art. Thanks for sharing.
The reprint is tempting... ;D
Cheers!
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And...Amazon US has them marked off $50.
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Thanks for the shoutout and great post! Your credentials check out... can somebody get this guy a special badge or something? :)
Seriously, very nice collection, right on.
The set of books I use are in your 3rd pic down, but my copies were bought later second hand.
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Thanks for the shoutout and great post! Your credentials check out... can somebody get this guy a special badge or something? :)
Seriously, very nice collection, right on.
The set of books I use are in your 3rd pic down, but my copies were bought later second hand.
Thanks! :D
It was good to haul out all the stuff and browse through it. Great times... simpler times! We should form a badge-society...
Cheers!
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Oooh, shiney! o_o
I love the old D&D game. It was such an incredible new level of gaming, I think maybe the Invention of the wheel is comparable with the Advent of rpgs. But only barely!
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My god.They are even older than the set i had. I had the basic rules set from 1978.
http://www.waynesbooks.com/dungeonsdragons.html
My school grades went down fast after buying that. My head was always in another world.
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I had the red box set with the elmore art. It was great fun back then. Your set is ace. I bet you are a tidy person.
lol
When I was a kid, my dad was a warrant officer in the Canadian Air Force, so we moved every 2-4 years. I was allowed on very small bookcase, and that's all the personal books I was allowed! His sense of tidy has rubbed off, I suppose, but I'm not as uptight about it.
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I never had those, but my brother and I did have the original old board game version.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_56VQ37WZemo/TK5hnJyDmyI/AAAAAAAAAWA/m1Ptldrly1M/s1600/pic52887_md.jpg)
;D
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lol
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I spent so long copying the ink drawings in those sorts of books with my Rotring technical drawing pens. For some reason there was this weird subculture in our school where we would buy loads of Rotring pens in different sizes and spend ages stripping them down, cleaning them and filling them with ink. Was this just us?
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I spent so long copying the ink drawings in those sorts of books with my Rotring technical drawing pens. For some reason there was this weird subculture in our school where we would buy loads of Rotring pens in different sizes and spend ages stripping them down, cleaning them and filling them with ink. Was this just us?
Nope. I had loads of those pens too!
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What a great collection. I don't actually have my D&D books any more but a friend still has kept them (and his own) along with hundreds of my 70's & 80'S figures safe and sound. I guess we'll have to break them out one day and go through them. ;D
I spent so long copying the ink drawings in those sorts of books with my Rotring technical drawing pens. For some reason there was this weird subculture in our school where we would buy loads of Rotring pens in different sizes and spend ages stripping them down, cleaning them and filling them with ink. Was this just us?
Me too. I used them for years after my school years and I still have them stashed away in a box in the garage. I love the feel of them and the way they work.
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LOL. With our group you just weren't 'at' the table if you didn't have a technical pen...
Thanks for the nostalgia hit. :-*
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Glad I was able to make you guys remember the good days. :)
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You just know I've got to buy myself some Rotrings now. The 'standard' spread I think - 0.1, 0.3 and 0.5.
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You just know I've got to buy myself some Rotrings now. The 'standard' spread I think - 0.1, 0.3 and 0.5.
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What a great collection. I don't actually have my D&D books any more but a friend still has kept them (and his own) along with hundreds of my 70's & 80'S figures safe and sound. I guess we'll have to break them out one day and go through them. ;D
Me too. I used them for years after my school years and I still have them stashed away in a box in the garage. I love the feel of them and the way they work.
LOL. With our group you just weren't 'at' the table if you didn't have a technical pen...
Thanks for the nostalgia hit. :-*
As the son of an architect in a time when the industry was reluctantly moving toward CAD I had quite a nice collection of hand-me-downs, and one or two new ones amongst them. They are wonderful but I think I came to them too early, and would have been better off starting with something that allows for a faster, looser, more expressive drawing technique. Say a sharpie. But I was a snob and aped Ian Miller's style... relentless fastidious crosshatching was the order of the day. They are dry now, but I should fire up the sonic bath and then go for one of those rounds of cleaning and assembling. Yup, nostalgia for sure..... love that capillary action :-* lol
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I could never draw on a tablet... Up until I gave up art, I was always scanning & cleaning pencil drawings and then colouring them in in photoshop.
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I still have my old copy of The Tolkien Bestiary with all the Ian Miller ink drawings. I forgot about it until now. He really illustrated a "different" fantasy altogether.
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My dad was a draughtsman, so I had tons of Rotring pens as well. I was never much of an artist - drawing meticulous maps in the Tolkien style was my thing. For my first ever D&D campaign, I did about two dozen hex maps, of which only one was ever used by the PCs. After that, it was isometric "Elite" style starships for a while.
When my dad finally retired about 10 years ago, I inherited a pile of unused pens - still got them, waiting for a roleplaying campaign that needs some hand-drawn maps...
Not to mention his stencils and Letraset!
I probably became a geologist just to hand-draw field maps and crystallographic diagrams. Well, that and any excuse to climb hills and bivvy out like a tramp :D
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My dad was a draughtsman, so I had tons of Rotring pens as well. I was never much of an artist - drawing meticulous maps in the Tolkien style was my thing. For my first ever D&D campaign, I did about two dozen hex maps, of which only one was ever used by the PCs. After that, it was isometric "Elite" style starships for a while.
When my dad finally retired about 10 years ago, I inherited a pile of unused pens - still got them, waiting for a roleplaying campaign that needs some hand-drawn maps...
Get one sorted, then :-D
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I could never draw on a tablet... Up until I gave up art, I was always scanning & cleaning pencil drawings and then colouring them in in photoshop.
I adopted a bit of a strange style that worked with the wacom tablet. It was all wobbly lines. If you use flash it cleans up your line work beautifully though. Takes a while to make the brain connect the hand with whats happening on the screen as well.
When I animated I used puppetmation as well which avoided the lines boiling due to the wobbles.
The new generation of i-pad style tablets let you draw right on the screen. THAT is going to be awesome.
I've had a wacom tablet for many years but have only recently started coming into confidence with natural drawing and inking styles. If you have a photoshop version from the last few years I can't recommend the following "tools presets" set enough. You can hatch like many different kinds of maniac with these tool presets as well as do the the whole thing from pencil to inking, switching between brush and pen:
http://frenden.myshopify.com/products/photoshop_pencil_and_inking_brushes
It's funny you lay down a shed load of cash for a comprehensive suite like CS but sometimes it takes another $5 to the right person to unlock what you want to do. Seriously one of the best digital purchases I've ever made!
that book is gold! That is where I first saw millers art and was blown away.
Me too, I was enthralled by the Miller and John Blanche stuff and would go back to the library to get the book several times a year and keep it as long as I could. Later I still did not have my own copy and found piles of them in the remainder table at Borders for < $5 bucks and bought copies for anyone close to me I thought my appreciate it.
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Good call. I can't tell you how many times I tried to draw Elmore's dragons by looking at the book art from the BECMI sets.
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I was always a fan of Otus and Sutherland; to me, they were the D&D art gods!
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he could do a hot 80's chick as well
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3691/aleena.jpg)
Ha! I remember that one! I was totally in love with her. lol
Did you get Elmore's book from the Kickstarter last year?
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got some pics, Never heard of those.
Otus is great in an acid-trip sort of way. His stuff reminds me of late '60s LP covers, or those fuzzy blacklight posters. He's still very active doing artwork for the OSR community and their numerous projects. I bought the Dungeon Alphabet book just because it had Otus drawings in it.
You'll likely recognize his work here:
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4566109806526494&pid=15.1)
Or here:
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4626917958287594&pid=15.1)
Some of his more recent efforts:
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4592459445439473&pid=15.1)
Sutherland is consistent and more "normal" fantasy art. He did a bunch of ink drawings in the original AD&D books.
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Word of wisdom to any budding writers. If you are pitching to the nascar crowd like me, FFS get a really good cover on it that does not challenge the viewer in any artistic sense.
Tell ya another bloke I loved back in the day and that was Elmore.
Funny, I started gaming when 2nd edition was on the shelves and Elmore was the Dragon magazine darling, and his art was one of the primary reasons I gave D&D a pass and didn't give it a second thought until many years later. And then it was exposure to the Judges Guild art that hooked me in.
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Grrr...I've never been a D&D guy (a little young for the original stuff). The few run-ins I had with D&D were...uninspiring. However I'm always tempted to pick up the reprint version of the original stuff, as I think I'd "get" it now. Even just for something to have on the bookshelf and admire...feel like it'd be a cool hand-me-down also for kids in the future...
Damn you guys! lol
PS: Are rotrings really worth $45? I love me some quality pens but have a hard time justifying that kind of price.
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Yeah I'm hoping to give it a try sometime. The two times I played it were both with a shockingly mediocre (read: dead 'orrible) game-master. His one device was to casually indicate heaps of bones in the corner of every room we entered. These inevitably gathered up into skeletons...rinse...repeat.
I do miss the charm and simplicity of older D&D stuff I've seen. I think I'll find a way to get my hands on a copy.
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Otus is great in an acid-trip sort of way. His stuff reminds me of late '60s LP covers, or those fuzzy blacklight posters. He's still very active doing artwork for the OSR community and their numerous projects. I bought the Dungeon Alphabet book just because it had Otus drawings in it.
Sutherland is consistent and more "normal" fantasy art. He did a bunch of ink drawings in the original AD&D books.
Love Erol Otus' stuff!
My favorite from the early days of D&D, though (and all of my friends' favorite, too, I think) was Dave Trampier (or "DAT" as we knew him by his initials). His stuff just had a really cool look to it, almost like a woodcut. I still remember his Pseudo Dragon from the monster manual - classic illustration!
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Runequest had talking ducks. Make of that what you will.
I loved Runequest. The whole cult relationship thing, the hit locations, the different species of troll, just brilliant. I once had a character who was a dark troll - fantastic, absolute combat monster he was (literally) yet also surprisingly well balanced.
My brother still runs Runequest stuff, but he has also house-ruled some things (like after the first round of combat, small light weapons strike before pikes and spears; heavy armour carries a penalty to performing quick actions and acrobatics).
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lol
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OK, I just had to add some Trampier art. Man - I wish he was still drawing...
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Memoryful! o_o
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Loved Tramp too. The cover of the Player's Manual was the defining piece of D&D art.
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Loved Tramp too. The cover of the Player's Manual was the defining piece of D&D art.
Very much so! It's available in miniature, you know.
http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/demons-devils/dd1a-the-demon-idol-diorama-pack/