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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: jgodwin17 on November 23, 2013, 07:51:16 AM
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Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on rules to use for a near future small skirmish game. I'm looking for 5-20 models a side, pretty simplistic (mainly looking for a good game to play with my non-gamer friends), that would work well for a bleak futuristic setting (Aliens/Blade Runner type stuff). Even a conversion of a ruleset would be work fine. I'm not really particular on 15mm or 28mm (not sure which I'll use at this point, I have some stuff for both), as generally that's a pretty easy conversion.
To give you guys some background on what I have played/liked.
I really dislike THW stuff, it's just not my cup of tea.
I like the Goal System mechanic, but I feel the character creation is a bit too indepth and the games get bogged down.
I enjoy Mordheim quite a bit, and Necromunda as well, but I'm not really feeling those would be appropriate rulesets for this.
I don't mind SOBH, but Mutants and Death Rays doesn't fit the setting well, and is a bit too simplistic.
I love AE Bounty, but I feel the model profiles and building templates are a bit too specific for this game.
I love the Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game rules, and I've seen some conversions of it for other types of gaming. I wouldn't mind something similar, or even a conversion if they exist.
Any feedback or help would be much appreciated!
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How about "Use Me"?
http://15mm.co.uk/USE_ME_Books.htm (http://15mm.co.uk/USE_ME_Books.htm)
Review:
http://barkingirons.blogspot.de/2010/10/notables-review-of-use-me-15mm-sci-fi.html (http://barkingirons.blogspot.de/2010/10/notables-review-of-use-me-15mm-sci-fi.html)
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A good free set:
http://www.skankgame.com/Downloads.html
A good commercial set:
http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Combat_Zone_products.html
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what about In the Emporer's Name?
iten-game.org/ (http://iten-game.org/)
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Isn't it about time that a thread like this got stickied to the top of the board?
The question is raised quite regularly and is of interest to many of us, so a thread detailing opinions on current rule sets , where new additions could be added and opinions exchanged would be a useful permanant resource, much like the 'cheap sourses for sci fi figs' thread. :D
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Well, it does sound sensible. I'll open a sticky thread - check out the proposed format and contribute if you want to.
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Agreed!
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Thanks so far for your help folks, it is much appreciated!
I've looked over the review of "Use Me" Pirx and it looks quite promising. I may have to pick it up, another nice addition is that the review also included a link to the Fast and Dirty rules, which hopefully I will get to browse over today after homework.
I looked briefly over Warlord 2085 (Skank) and it doesn't look like something I'd enjoy, but I appreciate the suggestion. I'll take a look for Combat Zone reviews.
I don't know how I could have forgot ITeN, I've played this one quite a bit in its second edition and loved it. I think it would be an easy conversion to near-future too (pretty much just changing weapon names). Thanks Johnno!
I think a sticky of some sort would be really helpful personally. Everyone has different knowledge of what rule sets exist and how each one plays, it would be nice if we could all collaborate and create a nice reference for curious gamers.
Thanks all!
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I think a sticky of some sort would be really helpful personally.
Here you go:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=60567.0
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Top man Chris :)
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Thanks Chris!
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Laserburn?
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Savage Worlds: Although an RPG it works fairly well as a miniature skirmish game. They have "Showdown" which is suppose to be even more a miniature game but I have not played it.
I agree about AE Bounty. Great Game but the force creation is both frustrating and difficult to adapt.
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Maybe 7TV by crooked dice? Work with several ideas.
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Star Mogul is free http://armorcast.com/Armorgeddon/index.php?board=36.0
There is also Judge Dredd which has a lot of freedom in creating characters.
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Savage Worlds: Although an RPG it works fairly well as a miniature skirmish game. They have "Showdown" which is suppose to be even more a miniature game but I have not played it.
I agree about AE Bounty. Great Game but the force creation is both frustrating and difficult to adapt.
I'll have to give Savage Worlds a look then, sometimes the more rules light RPGs tend to give you a lot in terms of character customization. On a side note, I've been following your blog for quite some time (as Sabotage!) and it's very inspiring. I love how you scratch build terrain and make vehicles out dollar general purchases and have them turn out top notch, that definitely requires a lot of creativity.
I'll have to give Laserburn a look Blacksmith, I've not heard much except that it's inspired by Rogue Trader (though I might be confused or misheard something).
I'm really not a fan of how the 7TV games work, at least from skimming the demo rules Nurgle, but I might be willing to actually give one a play.
Star Mogul is a solid suggestion n815e, but unfortunately it is squad based and I'm looking for single model activation (I should have posted that in the initial comment).
I'm unfamiliar with the Judge Dredd rules, I'll have to see if I can take a look at them.
Thanks for all the suggestions folks, keep them coming! Soon I'll have too many sets to decide from!
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May I humbly submit http://spacevixensfrommars.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12_13&products_id=177
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I second the dredd rules for any generic sci fi. They are extremely easy to convert to your own liking and everything you might need is included in the rules, most gun types, vehicles, heroes, skills, campaign.
If its not there, it is very easy to adapt/bolt in what u need.
I think there is still a free version on Mongoose publishing site somewhere.
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On a side note, I've been following your blog for quite some time (as Sabotage!) and it's very inspiring. I love how you scratch build terrain and make vehicles out dollar general purchases and have them turn out top notch, that definitely requires a lot of creativity.
Thanks! I've got more on the way. :D
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Laserburn is a game from the 80's, with percentages in shooting and in armour saves, but it's a very good game for skirmishes with 10 figures per side. The game was written by Brian Ansell and Richard Halliwell (I think...) and it is from Rogue Trade came from. I think you can buy it in 15mm.co.uk
Characters had three skills: Weapon skill, Combat skill and Initiative.
There is a yahoo group worth to visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/afewgonadsmore/info (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/afewgonadsmore/info)
From the rulebook:
"LEAD FANATIC HORDES OF REDEMPTIONISTS TO CLEANSE, PURIFY AND GENERALLY OBLITERATE EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE IN THE VERY HEART OF THE IMPERIUM...
TELEPORT DOWN INTO THE THE MERCILESS MAELSTROM OF A RELENTLESS ASSAULT ON THE DESERT OUTPOST OF THE RED REDEMPTION...
HATE PEOPLE A LOT."
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Hey there everyone, thanks again for the suggestions.
Thanks Gary, I'm not sure on Space Vixens. It could definitely have some decent rules, and I would give them a try if they were free, but the aesthetic kind of makes me wary if I have to pay.
I'm hearing a lot of good things of Judge Dredd, and I tried to find a free demo or cut down rulesets, but I couldn't. I look it up on Wargames Vault, but it was 27$, and that's a bit much for a ruleset I haven't seen. When I go home for the Holidays in December I'll have to stop by one of the game stores and see if they have it, so I can skim through it, because it sounds awesome. And the two game stores here are tiny, and one only does MTG.
Ironworker, I'm definitely looking forward to it!
That sounds pretty awesome Blacksmith, I looked it up on 15mm.co.uk and the price is very reasonable too. I think I may be making an order in the next week or so!
Out of curiosity has any tried "The Department?" I noticed it's based on the Goal System mechanic, which I like (though I didn't really like Blasters and Bulkheads), and the theme seems pretty appropriate, at least for Blade Runner type near future games (maybe I could use ItEN for more combat oriented games, or adapt The Department a bit).
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Free basic rules at the bottom of this page (the "primer").
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/rulebook/judge-dredd-miniatures-game-rulebook.html
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Thanks N815e! I don't know how I overlooked those :?
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It should really be some place easier to find.