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Title: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on November 25, 2013, 10:09:20 PM
Hi,


THis week end I found 2 cheap (2euros each) diecast Toyota Hilux 4 door pickups in a supermarket. They are marked as 1/57scale, but I found they went pretty well with my 20mm modern miniatures I recently bought.

These pickup are already pretty big in real life (maybe as tall as a medium sized man, I'd say), so I guess it's OK to convert them to add 2 technicals to my insurgent fleet, even if these vehicles are a bit big for this scale, as you can see on the pics, properly based 20mm minis size work visually quite well.

So I decided to strip the paint, and start thinking how I will make them. I'm waiting for some resin truescale technicals from Sandsmodels, so I didn't dediced for now what kind of weapons I'll use on them (for now, the mock up setup is with machin guns).


I also started to convert 2 sandsmodels afghan minis to use as gunners. I already have 2 elhiem gunners (a bit smaller) that I reserve for the true scale technicals I'm waiting for delivery.


In this topic, I'll show you my conversion work in progress. It's my first attempt as modern warfare modelling (and wargaming). I'm also working on french and insurgents modern forces (we'll see in other topics).


On pics, minis are Elhiem (french modern and machine guns), Sandsmodels (afghans). I recommand both ranges, full of character ( I recently discovered 20mm scale, and for me it's really something almost as good looking as 28mm, but almost as cheap as 15mm  lol)


The first thing I'm thinking about is how make these wheels a bit less fancy. I'll probably remove the wheel spoke with Xacto, and then resculpt something simple with GS.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: Elbows on November 25, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
Lookin' good.  Would be worthwhile to find a source for better wheels/tires.  Surely some specialty shop somewhere sells just rugged looking wheels tires.  The silly blinged out 36" wheels on those trucks really ruin the look.  :-[

I can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 25, 2013, 10:28:20 PM
thanks,


I'll find a way to make the wheels look more a worker pickup than a luxury car, don't worry ;)
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 25, 2013, 11:03:24 PM
I found some parts in my slotcars wreck, some diecasts wheels someone sent me years ago. Not good for slot cars, but (I hope) perfect for this project. NEVER throw anything  lol


The best thing is that I have 2 full sets of identical rims. The tires are a bit thin, what do you think ? Maybe I should make my own with greenstuff, but I'm afraid to not make them good enough. I'll see if I have some too hard rubber old slot car tires a bit thicker, maybe. But these thin tires actually help the car to be more height scale accurate...Maybe once I'll put the front wheels in right position, it will appear less thin.

Forget about the bad wheels position (like the huge gap between the front wheels and car body), just a mock up presentation with some metal spacers maintaining everything for the pic.

I'll work on these more seriously tommorow.





Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: Elbows on November 26, 2013, 12:17:11 AM
That looks loads better.   :D  You may now continue good sir!  lol

PS: if the tires come off the new rims, surely something could be used as replacement tires...rubber washers of some sort, or something that could be easily cut to size.  They actually don't look too awful the way they are...but something chunkier wouldn't look bad. 
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: grant on November 26, 2013, 12:19:45 AM
Great looking project!  :)
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 26, 2013, 12:56:21 AM
Thanks,

Tommorow I'll search in my old hard rubber used slot car tires (I repeat : never throw anything  lol) and see if I can find something a bit "bulkier" (not sure it's a real existing english word...but I'm french after all   lol)
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: grant on November 26, 2013, 03:26:33 AM
That's the right word. "Beefier" would be the slang for tires.  lol Plusieres grandes pneus?  lol  (right words? Wrong masculin/feminin?)

Anyway, again I say: great project!
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 26, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
vocabulary and language interlude :

Plusieures : "several" (feminin)
grandes :  "large" (feminin), but can also significate "tall", depanding the context. (that's maybe one of the reminiscence of anglo-saxon influence in our language, words defined by their context, but I'm not a linguist)
un pneu : "a tire" (Masculin).

For tires perhaps "gros" (fat, but also sometimes means "large") would be better. No really french word for "big" (we could say "balèze" but that is not something a librarian would say)

So we could say "un gros pneu" or maybe "un pneu balèze". Google can translate the first one ("a large tire" it says), not the second one (but google translate seems to be better to translate english to french than the opposite, I think).   lol

End of the interlude  :D


Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: YPU on November 26, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
I really should start to pay more attention to the 20mm cars I am post apocing. Never really gave them any tought. (then again post poc one might loot fancy tires from somewhere)
How do you strip the paint of these things? They look so much better without that thick coat of paint on them!
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 26, 2013, 12:01:31 PM
A bath of acetone (a few hours, especially be carefull with this chemical product) was perfect to strip the paint. Of course, I first removed all the plastic parts, I just dipped the metal body only.


I found some old hard rubber tires (tires from 1/64 slot cars wich became too hard to be used for this purpose), perfect ! I'll post pics tonight. This afternoon I'm a bit busy.

Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sandsmodels on November 26, 2013, 12:11:22 PM
looks a great start, if you need more  wheels we can probably supply some if you can tell me the diameter.
thanks
shaun
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: jdeleonardis on November 26, 2013, 01:52:01 PM
Wow, those look really good.  Once stripped, they look perfect for what you are about to do with them.  And, 1/57 my a@#!  They look perfect for 1/72 or 1/76
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 26, 2013, 07:44:25 PM
Thanks for the comments and help offer,  

I found some compatible old rubber tyco slot car tires in my slot car wreck, the glue is currently drying. I'll post result later on evening ;)



edit : because of the famous statement "without pics it didn't happened" here 's some sneak pics of the current state of progress, with the new tires :

Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 26, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
Wheels are glued in place. Tommorow I'll make it stronger with hot glue, then I'll finish the assembly (glasses, chassis). Then the interesting part of the work will start : customizing !


But I also have to repeat the work I already did on the 2nd car...Probably tommorow night.

I hope to be able to add sculpted details during week days, and finally paint (or at least, primer) these cars this week end.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 28, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
Here's the current progress I made.

First I removed the rear metal attachement clip, and the matching part of the plastic chassis. I'll have to fill this gap with a bit of plasticard.

Then, I glued in place the glasses, and fill (inside) the 2 holes of the roof with some cardboard. It will make the filling easier later.

Then, I finished the wheels assemblies (more or less straight and aligned  lol) and glued them in place with superglue and hot glue reinforcement. The models have to be sturdy : they are wargaming pieces, not showcase static models.

I also added some bits of cardboard to adjust the car height (the space between the wheels and car body...I canno't remember the exact term in english).

Later, I glued the chassis on the body, using a good amount of superglue gel, to have a few seconds of adjustements.


I finally sanded off some tires rubber on a sandpaper, to give some kind of real car weight feeling. You can see the current result on the last pics.


Tommorow, I'll build a roll cage where I'll install the weapons. Then, I'll have to fill the roof holes, and start detailling.

I will also probably reinforce the chassis and body assembly to make it more solid. 


Minis are from Elhiem and Sandsmodels.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 29, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Hi,

THe weapons are mounted, here's some pics.

I tried to make the 2 technicals diferent (diferent roll cages, weapons, and gunners), and started to add some details already (like the mesh on the rear window on one of the car).

The gunners will not be glued on cars, so casualties can be removed easily.


I still need to customize one of the gunners too.

Tonigh I'll consolidate the chassis and body assembly, and then I'll be able to start detailing the cars.

Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: Ash on November 29, 2013, 07:56:59 PM
Those are looking really good
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 29, 2013, 11:36:11 PM
Thanks !

I'm happy they start to look like more wargames minis than "simple" child toys  lol ...even if we're all playing toy soldiers, but in  some kind of "serious" manner  ;D


Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: Machinegunkelly on November 30, 2013, 10:51:43 AM
They are really nice. Perhaps you should try to "bump" them a little before painting them. I am no expert but my guess would be that "technicals" aren´t the best kept vehicles on earth, and therefore gets some bumps and bruises on the way.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 30, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
Yes, I thought about bumps on the car, the problem is that diecast metal is very hard, I'm not sure to make "good looking" (I mean something realistic, scale wise) with my dremel  ???


I was more thinking about adding some rust points, or a replaced (diferent paint) body part, this kind of thing.

And of course, lot of dust (and stuff like ammo crates, bags, camo mesh, etc...).
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: S_P on November 30, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Really like the work you have put in to these. Especially on the gun mountings- the roll bar looks better than a simple pole.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: sundayhero on November 30, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
Thanks !

I'm using brass fishing needles for the gun mounts. I live in France deep south country, I cannot find modelling supplies, so I have to be creative  lol or order stuff online, of course  8)
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: Elbows on December 16, 2013, 06:38:43 AM
Man those are coming along simply splendidly...I may have missed it - are these for 15mm or 20mm?  I think the suspension/wheels really brought the things down to a proper reality for gaming.  Beautiful work.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast technical conversions
Post by: von Lucky on December 16, 2013, 08:31:33 AM
Keep it up sundayhero, these are looking hot.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 16, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
Hi,

I didn't made any progress on the diecasts technicals, but I received my resin ones.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160020_zps8917b450.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160020_zps8917b450.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160002_zpsfc92f0f6.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160002_zpsfc92f0f6.jpg.html)




As you can see on pics, the real scale technicals are a bit smaller, but the diecast ones still Ok concerning scale, after all big 4x4 pickups really exist these days, I'll consider them more like trucks than cars, that's all.

I already prepared the 2 resin pickup (still a few bubbles holes to fill), and installed wheels on one of them :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160008_zps11719683.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160008_zps11719683.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160014_zps23832278.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160014_zps23832278.jpg.html)


Today I'll finish the 2nd car, and fill the few bubbles holes. Then, the fun part of the job, detailling and adding weapons and crew.

By the way, how do you manage crews on your vehicules ? Do you glue them, or just put a removable system (a pin or something similar, for example) ?




Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 16, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Here's the current progress, the first 2seat pickup basic setup is completed.


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160043_zpsce3677ec.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160043_zpsce3677ec.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160048_zps5d645daa.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160048_zps5d645daa.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160055_zpsfa6a7428.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160055_zpsfa6a7428.jpg.html)




 I choosed to use brass rod on the 2nd technical, like I did on the 2 diecast trucks.



I'm still thinking of the weapon choice for it. Once it will be done, I will add details on the 4 technicals (camo mesh, crates, etc...).
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: von Lucky on December 16, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
Looking good. I would glue your crew into the back of the technicals. I plan on doing the same with my 15mm ones (this project has inspired me to at least pull out a UN Haiti project and prep the vehicles for painting).
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 16, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
THanks !

Actually I thought about mounting the minis on pins, so I can remove them for casualties, for example. And it would make the minis easier to paint.

I was thinking about removable minis also to use the technicals for diferents operations : from Afghanistan to Mali, Africa, or even Asia or european uchrony insurgents, just swap the minis and re-use the vehicles.

I still have to think about this. Anyway, tonight I finished the 2nd resin technical mounted weapon, using brass rod and metal parts and mesh.

I still need to correct a few defects on the models, and then I'll be ready for detailling. Here's also a "family picture" of the 4 insurgents vehicles.

Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: Elbows on December 17, 2013, 04:37:37 AM
The resin one look pretty decent (looks like quite a few bubbles though).  If it was possible I'd have gone with a modular system for the trucks.

Create a small platform which looks like the bed of a pick-up truck...mount the gun and crew to it (maybe keep the crew separate?).  That way you could place the weapon platform in the back of the truck.  This would allow you to do several versions, yet run the trucks as unarmed when desired.

Of course if you make mounts and maybe pin the weapons you could do the same thing?  I love the progress you're making!
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: von Lucky on December 17, 2013, 07:01:47 AM
Hmmm - food for thought. You can get plastic card that is textured to match the bed of the truck.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
The removable weapong system is a good idea, but a bit late  lol But for weapon crew, it's a good idea...

We'll see, I'll decide today, because when I'll detail the cars, I'll have to keep some room for the minis on the trucks beds.


Thanks for the comments. I'm really happy with this historic modern warfare incursion I made. When I was younger, I thought it was boring to make "real life stuff", but it is just as challenging as any fantasy or scifi project I had in the past.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2013, 07:32:32 PM
Hi,


I almost finished the technicals. I added some metal accessories, and also hardened the diecast tires with superglue.

I still need to add some clothes and camo mesh, and fix a few defects (like adding hands for some of the crew members I modified).


I finally decided to glue the crew on the truck bed. I made a few tests (drilling holes and using pins, or bigger stand) and I wasn't happy with the result, the way we handle the technicals on the gaming board, with crew falling or moving on the truck bed, etc...Now it's sturdy and easy to play with  lol And if I need other crew members, I'll simply buy MORE minis  lol

Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: Elbows on December 17, 2013, 09:46:48 PM
They look perfect the way they are boss - now...paint em!  lol
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2013, 09:53:44 PM
Just a few more details first !  :D
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2013, 11:34:25 PM
Details are completed. I still need to make the missing hands on the 2 customized weapon crew members, and need to fix the few bubbles holes I still didn't fill yet, but it's almost finished.

I used handkerchiefs and fine bandage mesh with PVA glue. I tried to give each truck a personality, since they are basically almost the sames.


Now it will dry all night (on the pics, the glue is wet, the final result will be less thick), and I'll finish everything tommorow, ready to paint.
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2013, 11:37:56 PM
Here's also the current family pic  lol


Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: Slayer on December 18, 2013, 05:27:36 AM
nice, looking forward to seeing them painted  :)
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sandsmodels on December 18, 2013, 09:23:42 AM
my you have been busy, those trucks look great
Title: Re: W.I.P : diecast and resin technicals conversions
Post by: sundayhero on December 18, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Thanks !

Today the mesh is dry, but it's too thin  lol I was afraid to have something too thick for the scale, but it's the opposite. Trial and errors, I'm a beginner at this scale and universe  lol


I will add a coat of PVA glue and see what happens. It should do the trick.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on December 30, 2013, 11:47:34 AM
Hi,

Concerning the technicals, I added some glue on the mesh, it's now thicker and almost ready to paint (still need to fix the hands on the crews, I'll do this this afternoon).

In the mean time, I received my Caesar plastic reinforcements.

I made a few greenstuff conversion on them to fit my metal  taliban force (about 80% of my metal minis insurgents are talibans, the other are generic middle east insurgents).

To be more specific, I modified bare head fighters, and add some typical details (clothes, beards, etc...) on them. I didn't convert all minis, first to save time, but also to keep the insurgents force suficiently generic to be used on other conflicts than afghanistan (middle east but also Africa). The only "must have" for these plastic minis is to have covered head and beard (or shemag). I also sex changed the female minis  lol

Seeing pics on internet, it seems also accurate to see diferent gear and clothes on irregular forces (in Afghanistan but other countries too).


I also prepared the bases (metal washers, 3d paint +sand and cat litter) and applied a coat of PVA glue on the minis to help the paint to stay on (I washed them first with soap and water). Bases are also done on the metal minis "core army".

I still have to correct a few defects on metal minis (mostly weapons metal bending and fixing) and then I'll apply a coat of spray black.

On the pics, you can see first my metal forces (detailed pics later) and the customized plastic figures.




Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Elbows on December 30, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
I'm curious how those Caesar ones paint up.  I had a bunch of them when I was considering a similar project.  Not exactly hard plastic, but not nearly as soft as the pudding Revell/Esci minis.  I'd like to see what you do with them.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on December 30, 2013, 12:32:34 PM
I've seen them propainted on internet, I cannot find the links for now, I'll try later. A good painter can obtain really nice results with them.


Personaly, since I'm new in this scale and historical painting, I'll not be too ambitious  lol
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Elbows on December 30, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
I suppose I mean "painted and gamed with".  I've seen a lot of the Caesars painted up, but I'm more curious how it all will hold up to gaming (ie. frequent use and not placed on a shelf somewhere).  My guess is they'd be quite good.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on December 30, 2013, 01:59:57 PM
The thing is to have the correct paint to stick on the soft plastic. Special paint I don't have  lol I live in the country, I do with what I can find in hardware and arts/craft stores, mostly.

So I used the good old PVA glue coating technic. We'll see how it survive during gaming.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sandsmodels on December 30, 2013, 08:18:27 PM
those trucks certainly look good so far, looking forward to seeing them painted up as well as the figs ect.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on January 02, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
Thanks !  Concerning the technicals, I'll wait that everything is ready to paint to actually start painting. I found that this way was faster and more eficient, especially for these big projects. If you sculpt one thing, start painting another thing, finally you never finish anything  lol At least it works like that for me  lol


here's the last work I did. First I started to add ammoboxes on the plastic machine gunners. Simple bits of PVC that I will sand a bit once the glue dried. Nothing too fancy, I don't want to pay too much attention to plastic minis reinforcements.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020394_zps05165cee.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020394_zps05165cee.jpg.html)



Then, I modified some fedayeen AT5 crew men to represent talibans. Notice that I based each mini (and missile launcher) individually for easier gameplay.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020391_zpsec6e65bf.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020391_zpsec6e65bf.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020392_zpscd7730f8.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020392_zpscd7730f8.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020389_zps08da05fe.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1020389_zps08da05fe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on January 03, 2014, 06:35:47 PM
Here's the final preparation shots of the last taliban minis. Now I have to fix a few defects, but they are ready to receive some black primer (if it's the good way to paint 20mm scale minis  lol).

Next step : finish the crew members for the french special forces. I'll use sandsmodels crews, but I'll simply use them as sculpting "dollies".  I will probably start tonight and then post pics. ;)

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on January 03, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Keep at it; even through all that mad laughter. :P
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Suber on January 05, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
I can only say this thread is absolutely awesome :-*.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on January 05, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
Thanks !

I don't know if it's because I'm getting older, but I found that historical minis and wargaming can be colorfull, creative and interesting; not boring and austere  at all, like I was thinking when I was a teenager playing scifi and fantasy only.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on January 06, 2014, 10:29:16 PM
I fixed the technical last defects, including sculpting hands on the 2 customized gunners. Now they are ready to paint !

I was thinking of using grey primer on these...Is it a good idea ? i'll search for tutorials.


thanks

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Elbows on January 07, 2014, 01:09:56 PM
Thanks !

I don't know if it's because I'm getting older, but I found that historical minis and wargaming can be colorfull, creative and interesting; not boring and austere  at all, like I was thinking when I was a teenager playing scifi and fantasy only.

You're not alone - not that I'm really that much older than some of these kids, but I think to most young teens "historicals" is a bunch of stuffy 60 year olds sitting at a giant table playing 3-6mm Napoleonics and arguing about the marching pace of an Austrian regiment vs. a British regiment etc.  I had a 40K player come up to me once and ask me what the "fluff" was behind my Old West game (and we're Americans!)  lol

He thought surely it had to be Firefly or something weird...because he didn't recognize it!?   Keep up the excellent work, I'm still eagerly following this thread!
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on February 28, 2014, 05:07:32 PM
Here's some progress, I finally undercoated the minis, around 100 minis to paint now  lol

I hope to finish them before next week end.


I also found 2 old and dusty laminated wood gamingboards I started years ago, and never finished.

They will be a good start for FoF gaming boards, since they are 60x60cms.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 03, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
I started painting the talibans.

I first divided the figures into 6 groups, with 6 basic paint schemes :

26 white

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030104_zps20230051.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030104_zps20230051.jpg.html)


26 beige

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030089_zps2b8a6b9e.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030089_zps2b8a6b9e.jpg.html)


12 blue

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030092_zps068d6592.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030092_zps068d6592.jpg.html)



12 green

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030095_zps1696a1bd.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030095_zps1696a1bd.jpg.html)


12 brown

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030100_zpsad59a89e.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030100_zpsad59a89e.jpg.html)



12 grey

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030098_zpsbadc0345.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P3030098_zpsbadc0345.jpg.html)



Basically, it's the same technic I'm using for 10mm painting :

basic dark tone (wetbrush)
final shade (drybrush)
block painting details
wash or stain on the whole mini
final touches (final shade again on edges, details edges)
weapons (base tone, wash, edges)
base and flock



Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 09, 2014, 12:55:45 AM
Hi,

Here's the first batch of completed minis (15). The 5 first pics are Caesar plastic minis I modified. Other ones are from Elhiem and Sandsmodels.

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 09, 2014, 12:57:57 AM
Next pics. On the first one, the heavy weapon crew member is a elhiem fedayeen I modified as a taliban.


On the last pic, it's the next batch I hope to finish tommorow, or monday.

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on March 09, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
Some of the head scarves are very well done - nice painting!
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Mr. Peabody on March 09, 2014, 06:36:48 AM
That's good 20mm right there. You, sir, have skills!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Doudou on March 09, 2014, 07:22:54 AM
woaw ! ça en jette !   :-*
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Ash on March 09, 2014, 07:47:49 AM
Great painting
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 09, 2014, 10:37:20 AM
Thank you !

I hope to make significant progress today.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 11, 2014, 12:02:00 PM
I'm a bit late, but the figures are completed. The static grass is now drying !

Once dry I'll dry brush it with yellow and it will be done. Tonight I'll start another group ! And make pics of this one. Now it's time to work  :(

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 11, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
New batch 100% completed !


70 figs remaining  lol


Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on March 11, 2014, 08:41:32 PM
Go, go, go!
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 13, 2014, 07:59:07 PM
I'm working on the 25figs white clothes group for now. It should be finished at the end of the week.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on March 26, 2014, 06:27:28 AM
 :-* Nice to see there is no Towely-ban over there. They are looking good.

Hows the technicals?

Cheeers
Matt
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 28, 2014, 03:40:48 PM
Thanks !

I didn't start painting the technicals, but I finished the "white cloth" 25 minis group. I didn't progress as I expected since I started a new job recently, I don't have much time for hobbies.

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on March 28, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
Nice mix of arms there Sundayhero.  :-*

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on March 29, 2014, 04:15:47 AM
They're looking great!
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on March 30, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
Thanks!

In the next months, I will probably migrate from the modern adventures forum to the post apoc's one, with some progress in my zombies project. I will probably continue the modern warfare project in the mean time, but probably small groups or vehicles.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on August 12, 2014, 11:00:19 PM
I'm finally back ! I hope to finish the talibans this month, and also build a couple of gaming mats  lol


I'd also like to build a few vehicles (both talibans and french army), because I never did this before !
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on August 12, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on August 12, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
That's the problem with masspainting : it can bring you to painting overdose.

The last painting I did were a big group of fantasy monsters, a complete 3D dungeon set (wich I will probably rework soon  lol), 4(!!!) heroscape valkirie sets (big boxset) detailled and flocked, one hundred zombies, a complete 10mm undead army, the beginning of 2 (!) other 10mm fantasy armies, and finally about half hundred modern french soldiers, and almost one hundred talibans.

Only mass and regiment painting projects. I believe the last individual figure I paint is a ral partha dwarf. I almost didn't play any game either.

Result : painting overdose. I didn't paint anything for months, even when I had more free time  :-X

Now I'm slowly coming back ! With...masspainting I'm afraid  lol
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on August 13, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
I am the same - go through stages of frantic painting then months of pottering about (mener une vie tranquille (?)) cleaning and prepping miniatures/terrain for when I feel like painting again. Keep up the momentum.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on August 14, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Mener une vie tranquille is correct  :D

Personnaly, when I'm not painting minis (or scenery), I paint slotcars (and slot car scenery), or I do retrogaming and retrocomputing  lol

Tonight I came back on my talibans painting, applying first coat of skin on their faces. I've got a lot of them remaining, more than I thought :o Masspainting, here we go again  lol
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on August 17, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
Here's the first updates.

The taliban group remaining, with just basic color applied, and first skin coat :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180730_zpsf5a3c444.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180730_zpsf5a3c444.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180731_zps1397df53.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180731_zps1397df53.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180728_zps90ceca32.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8180728_zps90ceca32.jpg.html)


A lot of work remaining !  Painting talibans is more difficult thant I expected, especially because if you want to be a bit accurate, you have to make their cloths in one color only (except scars or hats). At least on the reference photos I found.

 So you have to pay special attention to details (skin, weapons, accessories) to give the figures a decent aspect.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on August 27, 2014, 10:52:03 PM
Here's the first significant update. I finished the skin on all the remaining minis.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280849_zpsad861fe3.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280849_zpsad861fe3.jpg.html)


Some details :

Caesar figure (the bulky weapon is due to the fact I heavy coated it with PVA glue for sturdiness. I'll paint the weapon details). I'm happy with the conversions I made.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280865_zps1b7a4214.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280865_zps1b7a4214.jpg.html)


Sandsmodels leader :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280850_zps4d7dc23a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280850_zps4d7dc23a.jpg.html)


Sandsmodels gunner :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280854_zps83b6edf7.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280854_zps83b6edf7.jpg.html)


Group pic (mostly Sandsmodels and caesar) :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280859_zps5dd75114.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P8280859_zps5dd75114.jpg.html)



Same technic as usual :

block paint base skin color, keeping the hollows black (basically, only painting the toes, fingers, lips, cheeks and nose)
wash shade
highlight with base skin color


Tommorow I'll work on the clothes. I hope to finish these minis until next week.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 04, 2014, 11:20:49 PM
Hi,

I completed block painting all the weapons, the hair, the webbings and accessories, and the shoes.


Remaining is the shading (some washes on the everything except skin wich is completed), and finally, last highlights (mostly just the basic colors used) on clothes, webbings and accessories. 

Here's some WIP photos :

the "bakelite mag group" :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050014_zps62e53198.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050014_zps62e53198.jpg.html)



The main group (with classic metal mags or drum mags) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050032_zpsd046d2c5.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050032_zpsd046d2c5.jpg.html)



The metal RPGs :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050026_zpsc949f9c4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050026_zpsc949f9c4.jpg.html)



THe plastic RPG + plastic mortars :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050023_zpseac21273.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9050023_zpseac21273.jpg.html)


There is 43 miniatures. I'll continue tommorow night.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Elbows on September 05, 2014, 12:30:49 AM
Lookin' good. 
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sandsmodels on September 05, 2014, 09:09:57 AM
great looking bunch of figures, nice paint job.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 06, 2014, 12:04:22 AM
Thanks for your comments !

The shading on clothes is completed, and drying now. Tommorow I'll do the weapons shading, and sunday, I'll do highlights. I should need a couple more days to complete the minis (base and varnish).

Once this batch will be completed, I'll work on french special forces and vehicles. A lot more interesting  !   :D (painting insurgents was nice at the beginning, but after one hundred minis, not so much...)


Overall I'm happy with the speed/result balance on these.  The shading on the sky blue talibans is pretty nice. It doesn't look like smurfs anymore.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060041_zpsc3cea974.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060041_zpsc3cea974.jpg.html)


The citadel wash is really interesting to blend base colors (on these minis, a black undercoat, a dark wetbrush color, and a basic main color almost drybrush) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060054_zpsaa7122e4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060054_zpsaa7122e4.jpg.html)(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060048_zps8f776b14.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060048_zps8f776b14.jpg.html)(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060046_zps47fd2532.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9060046_zps47fd2532.jpg.html)


Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 10, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
The minis are almost completed, I still need to make the bases and varnish.

Here's some preview pics :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9110103_zpsb447b99d.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9110103_zpsb447b99d.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9110112_zpsca3fac24.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9110112_zpsca3fac24.jpg.html)


Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Mr. Peabody on September 11, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
Those are coming along very nicely indeed. Great work on the scarves; really brings the figures to life.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 12, 2014, 05:09:49 PM
THanks !

I almost completed them. I still have to add the grass on the bases, I'll take photos tonight.


edit : here's a preview pic :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9120131_zps1c339346.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9120131_zps1c339346.jpg.html)
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 13, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
Here's the final but ugly pics, sorry  lol

I did them quick this afternoon, and doing things quick is the best way to do it wrong  ::)

Anyway, here's the pics. After all, you already saw dozens of talibans, I just added 43 ones with this new batch.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130148_zpsaa2ae7ed.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130148_zpsaa2ae7ed.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130146_zpsb6d3fe4b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130146_zpsb6d3fe4b.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130143_zps37e59210.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130143_zps37e59210.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130136_zps2e4bf205.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130136_zps2e4bf205.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130135_zps38c1a5b8.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130135_zps38c1a5b8.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130134_zpsa57cb4b4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130134_zpsa57cb4b4.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130133_zpsb6c46874.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130133_zpsb6c46874.jpg.html)



The good thing with small scale is that you can store a complete 100men army in 2 tackles boxes. It's funny to think that these 2 pics are the most accurate concerning minis' real colors, by the way  lol

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130150_zps52ed4605.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130150_zps52ed4605.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130153_zps97f19fae.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P9130153_zps97f19fae.jpg.html)




Next stage will be the technicals painting. I never really painted vehicles, so I'll have to learn in the same time. I will also take better pics next week (for example, the completed heavy weapon talibans crews).  
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on September 13, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Impressed with your continuation on this project - keep it coming.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on September 14, 2014, 12:59:20 AM
thanks !

The 4 technicals are undercoated in black (I'll use some 10/15mm painting technics, as usual). First mistake, the PVA glue coat I brushed on the camo meshs is far too tick, now the undercoat is there, I realize that the mesh is almost invisible, now it's just a normal tarpaulin  lol

I'll post pics tommorow.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 22, 2014, 11:13:35 PM
Painting on the technicals has began !


The red one's body is almost completed, even if it's not very obvious with the bad picture. Taking pics of red color is an impossible task for me, especially at night  lol

The red vehicle should be completed tommorow, and the 4 vehicles set before the end of the week end.


Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: verd on October 23, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
I love this thread! It's so Inspirational.  :-*
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 25, 2014, 04:26:03 PM
Thanks !


I finished the red technical, except the weathering effects I'll add tonight.

Hopefully, the next vehicles will be faster to paint, since I did (more than once) a lot of testing on this first one.

Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on October 25, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
Lovely work. The airbrushing has made a huge difference to your work.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 25, 2014, 11:25:22 PM
Thank you, but still no airbrushing for now, I finally could not afford it. This model is brush painted  :)


I added slight weathering tonight, and varnish. My (arts ready to use liquid) acrylic varnish is matte, very matte...Maybe too much. On the bright large red parts of the car, under the modelling lamps we can barely see some white/grey brush strokes  :'(

It's not big deal, and probably not noticeable in normal lightning conditions, but next time I'll dilute it a bit. Tommorow I'll post daylight pics.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on October 26, 2014, 01:16:23 AM
Well then your windscreen is even more impressive.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 26, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Thank you a lot !

Here's the final pics of the red technical, with the weathering. It's a slight weathering according my gaming mat, and according real pics I found. Except technicals where some mud is applied as a poorman camouflage, a lot of technicals are not particularly in bad shape/condition, at least it's not uncommon to see this kind of vehicles.

 
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on October 26, 2014, 07:16:54 PM
Hot stuff, especially the smooth blending. 8)

Cheers
matt
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 31, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
thank you !

I made a small pause into painting, to make a bit of scenery (since my taliban force is almost complete, and I've got a painted french platoon, I can already play!).

I created a quite generic setup, including small walls and hedges (as the ones we see in afghanistan green zone), 3 buildings (I'll add 2 new buildings, probably a small farm and sheperd cabin), and 2 fields (not of particular species, but wide enough to allow my 20minis to walk thru, and high enough to offer some light cover).


Here's some pics. Of course, it's a very early stage of modelling, I still have to engrave details on buildings, add some texture, and of course, some paint and flock. The goal is to match my 3'x3' gaming mat (see attached pic). 
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: von Lucky on October 31, 2014, 09:35:08 PM
Keep at it.

If you haven't already done so, there's a lot of YouTube clips of French forces in Afghanistan you can watch. All of the nations' (I even found a few Danish ones!) troops have uploaded helmet camera footage which was key in me making sure I had the "look" right.
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: gamer Mac on October 31, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
Lovely painting on the vehicle :-* :-* :-*
Really like the clutter in the back.
Great looking project, keep up the good work
Title: Re: W.I.P : 20mm taliban force (vehicles and minis)
Post by: sundayhero on October 31, 2014, 10:29:02 PM
thanks for the comments !

I forgot to say that except the buildings, the other pieces will be done generic enough to fit other kinds of universes/periods, like WW2 for example.

As a solo gamer, I'm always searching to keep the storage, price and spent time low on scenery. Especially since my "big" project will be the Shadowrun urban scenery, where it will be a lot more difficult to save time and efforts.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on November 29, 2014, 01:33:06 PM
Hi,

Following new rules,  I will not post modern figures or anything modern related after this post, so here's the last update for this topic, it's just about the scenery I finished, I wanted to finish this topic with something completed. I hope it will be OK with moderators.

The complete set of scenery :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280304_zpse41748e3.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280304_zpse41748e3.jpg.html)


The buildings them selves :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290334_zpse3287c9d.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290334_zpse3287c9d.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290343_zpsea1716b7.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290343_zpsea1716b7.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290337_zpsd9a836f0.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290337_zpsd9a836f0.jpg.html)




The big scenery (first pic quite accurate too concerning colors) :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290358_zpsf984ee73.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290358_zpsf984ee73.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290349_zps5eb7774d.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290349_zps5eb7774d.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290361_zps6f61f211.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290361_zps6f61f211.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290364_zps02549a1b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290364_zps02549a1b.jpg.html)




l

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290319_zps1e02a172.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290319_zps1e02a172.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290325_zps36c5bcf7.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290325_zps36c5bcf7.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290316_zps683b56d2.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290316_zps683b56d2.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290392_zps1584d4ff.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290392_zps1584d4ff.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290398_zps9c8e967e.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290398_zps9c8e967e.jpg.html)




(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290383_zps39703fd4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290383_zps39703fd4.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290386_zpsb6113e28.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290386_zpsb6113e28.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290388_zps5d847711.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290388_zps5d847711.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290407_zps44f319b5.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB290407_zps44f319b5.jpg.html)




A few action pictures :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280261_zpse161a2ea.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280261_zpse161a2ea.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280284_zpseb5bd696.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280284_zpseb5bd696.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280295_zpsd900a61c.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PB280295_zpsd900a61c.jpg.html)


 

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Ash on November 29, 2014, 02:45:31 PM
Super scenery. Bags of character in those buildings. Superb plaiting as well.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on November 29, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
Lovely, lovely stuff - really impresive.

I think you can continue this thread as you have, observing:

"Furthermore, threads which focus exclusively on the presentation of models and miniatures and do not discuss the political and social aspects may also cover subjects after the year 2000, provided it is done in a way that is not distasteful."

From:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=72390.msg882120#msg882120

(Which means fans like Ash and I can continue getting this eye-candy.)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on November 29, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
Cracking job SundayHero, I like the little rugs on the roof and the broken plaster/broken brickwork. It looks very natural mate.

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on November 29, 2014, 09:27:09 PM
Thank you all for your comments !

Quote
I think you can continue this thread as you have, observing:

"Furthermore, threads which focus exclusively on the presentation of models and miniatures and do not discuss the political and social aspects may also cover subjects after the year 2000, provided it is done in a way that is not distasteful."

From:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=72390.msg882120#msg882120


I didn't know these new (new) rules. I'm happy the team (or admin) changed his/their mind. Personaly, I believe that any historical subject, modern (post ww2) historical even more, has to be spoken carefully :  after all, even some "old" 60's or 70's colonial wars wounds can be easily reopened if we doesn't take caution. I always try to be carefull myself, even if sometimes my rough english is a bit limited.

So if it's OK, I will continue to present my historical projects here ! That's great because LAF is really the number one thing wich caused my renewal in this hobby. I discovered new scales, brands, universes, and even websites and forums because of LAF's (and LAF members) open mind.




BAck on subject : the rugs took a lot more time that I expected, to be honest  lol A simple addition apparently, but a lot of (too much) work for the result !
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on November 29, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
but a lot of (too much) work for the result !

Nope, it's worth it. Though I'm surprised it's not a print out... How did you do it?
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on November 29, 2014, 10:13:21 PM
It's some toilet paper glued with PVA glue, once dry, I painted it with a basic tone. Then, a coat of my own homemade stain, then brushed mate varnish, then drybrush, then weathering, then 2 to 3 washes.

The carpets with crops drying add some glued stained saw dust (home made modelling flock), then wash, then drybrush for "special" colors (like the red tomatoes drying).

Nothing really technic, except maybe the weathering (basically a few drybrushes shades).

Now count how many carpets I did, inside and outside, and you'll probably understand why I said it was too long.  lol
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on November 29, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
Ah....  o_o
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: julesav on December 03, 2014, 11:23:09 AM
I thought this sort of stuff was no longer allowed on the Forum?
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Elk101 on December 03, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
I thought this sort of stuff was no longer allowed on the Forum?

There has been a revised ruling which makes a compromise allowing miniatures, terrain etc to be shown as Von Lucky mentioned earlier.

Lovely, lovely stuff - really impresive.

I think you can continue this thread as you have, observing:

"Furthermore, threads which focus exclusively on the presentation of models and miniatures and do not discuss the political and social aspects may also cover subjects after the year 2000, provided it is done in a way that is not distasteful."

From:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=72390.msg882120#msg882120

(Which means fans like Ash and I can continue getting this eye-candy.)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Arlequín on December 03, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Yes siree... "what I painted", "how I painted/made it" and similar topics are acceptable. Thanks to Elk101 for saving me the trouble of quoting the relevant post.
 :)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Ash on December 04, 2014, 11:40:59 AM
I think even if the new rules hadn't been tweaked, the minis would also look very much the part for 1980's Mujahedin and the building styles probably haven't changed that much since the Macedonians went through.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 06, 2014, 11:38:53 PM
I will update this project soon. THese last weeks, I had not much time for hobbies, so most of my "hobby" consisted into ordering new stuff  lol
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Brummie on December 11, 2014, 11:47:08 AM
I think even if the new rules hadn't been tweaked, the minis would also look very much the part for 1980's Mujahedin and the building styles probably haven't changed that much since the Macedonians went through.

Just more of them would be carrying vintage WW2 weaponry.

Lovely thread btw, really like the buildings and the figures are very vibrant, yet maintain that 'dusty' feel to them.  :-*
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 11, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
Thank you, I appreciate it !

I'm currently working on french special forces conversions. I'll post them later today, I think.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 16, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
I went back on the technicals :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC150044_zps21fef66f.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC150044_zps21fef66f.jpg.html)



I almost completed the body painting of one :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160061_zps0cebe62a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160061_zps0cebe62a.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160060_zps1f2dc395.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC160060_zps1f2dc395.jpg.html)


I'm using a limited range of paints, with a wet palette to make my gradients "in the fresh" (don't know how to say it in english  lol). I will first paint the cars bodies, and then go on details. This way, the work will progress together. 


Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on December 16, 2014, 07:19:10 PM
Looks hot.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 16, 2014, 11:14:19 PM
Thanks !

Today I didn't paint anything "hot", sadly. You probably knows this kind of days, when anything you touch become sh*t  lol

I tried to paint the white technical body : FAIL. Now the technical is half (bad) painted in grey  lol But since I'm a persevering man, I tried to paint the blue technical instead. DOUBLE FAIL. THe car hood probably have 5millimeters of paint coats, trying to make a decent gradient.  lol ANd the gradient is still ugly.  ;D


Some days I should not touch anything in the workshop. The good news is that I was painting, not modelling scenery. Because I would probably accidentaly cut a finger lol


Anyway, tommorow is another day, I just wasted 2hours, not speaking of all the prep work.  ::)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 17, 2014, 11:30:40 PM
Hi,

Tonight I fixed mistakes on the blue technical, here's the pics :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC180070_zps17640ff0.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC180070_zps17640ff0.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC180069_zps71c30ffa.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC180069_zps71c30ffa.jpg.html)


I'd say that the modern style of these was a bit more difficult to paint too.


Tommorow I'll have to finish the white technical body I massacred yesterday night painting session  lol
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on December 18, 2014, 07:21:57 AM
 :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on December 18, 2014, 10:27:29 AM
Good to hear we all have those days. And it's not a wasted 2 hours - just practice. (I firmly believe that this hobby allows you to learn quickly from your mistakes.)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 18, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
You're right, in 3 years of LAF subscribtion, and intense painting and modeling, I can see how I improved several things. The next step will be the pigments weathering, and next year, airbrush and full sculpting (even if, technically, I already created full sculpted pieces, but not miniatures)  :)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 19, 2014, 11:18:58 PM
Here's the last technical body completed ! This was a tough fight for sure  lol I will NEVER paint a United Nations convoy, and I'm happy I didn't made several technicals painted in white  ;D

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC200076_zpsbeb7f7e9.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC200076_zpsbeb7f7e9.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC200077_zps31d84a99.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC200077_zps31d84a99.jpg.html)


Tommorow I'll do the glasses, bumpers, etc... I hope to complete the 3 cars accessories tommorow, and paint the figures and stowage sunday, perhaps on early next week.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on December 29, 2014, 10:56:59 PM
I'm back on subject, I painted the main color for bumpers and weapons :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC300170_zps34f37683.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC300170_zps34f37683.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC300169_zps3a0d40aa.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/PC300169_zps3a0d40aa.jpg.html)


Now that I completed the main body colors, I can work on the 3 models in the same time, it's a lot faster. 
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on December 31, 2014, 07:25:20 AM
Very nice sundayhero! :-* :-* worth the effort I say.

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 01, 2015, 11:24:41 PM
Thank you a lot. tonight I worked on the windows color gradients, working on 3 vehicles in the same time is not very compatible with this kind of work  lol


Overall the result is not as good as the windows of the red technical, but it will be OK (I have to admit that I'm a bit tired of this taliban project, and I just want to finish it to move on other projects I have, in particular Shadowrun and portuguese Bush Wars).  I hope to finish them tommorow, or at worst, before the end of the week.

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 02, 2015, 10:20:51 PM
Here's current progress, the night pics are a bit dark, but anyway.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030171_zps34d0cbec.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030171_zps34d0cbec.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030172_zps037b381a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030172_zps037b381a.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030181_zps571d6a65.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030181_zps571d6a65.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030179_zps7a9147ff.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030179_zps7a9147ff.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030174_zps3e0451a5.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030174_zps3e0451a5.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/slotracing/P1030177_zps03b9e606.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/slotracing/P1030177_zps03b9e606.jpg.html)



I still have to blackstrip a lot of details, finish highlights on stowage (for now only the shadows are down), fix defects and paint the car lights and of course, the gunners; and then I'll have to do the weathering.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on January 02, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
Nice. This thread has been an inspiration - I'm finally going to restart my project for the next 6 months.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 03, 2015, 12:03:06 AM
Thanks ! Personnaly I can't wait to finish it, at least the taliban part of it  lol

After something like an hundred of insurgents minis, and 4 too much detailed vehicles, I think I have not much interesting and new things to do with this subject. Maybe, adding a few heavy weapons (recoiless gun, anti aircraft guns, etc...) bases, but not before 2016 at least...  lol

But before going on more interesting things (a portuguese bush wars project, a WW2 15mm project, and of course my never ending french ultramodern project, not even speaking of the scifi and fantasy projects in progress...) I must finish these technicals.

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 03, 2015, 11:29:42 PM
I finished the vehicles and stowage :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040196_zpsc76aa815.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040196_zpsc76aa815.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040199_zpsb79aee86.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040199_zpsb79aee86.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040202_zps9ee9ef37.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040202_zps9ee9ef37.jpg.html)



(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040190_zps531cf09c.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040190_zps531cf09c.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040194_zps7d3e96cf.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040194_zps7d3e96cf.jpg.html)



(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040188_zps3c3b18a5.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040188_zps3c3b18a5.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040187_zps1c9576f1.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1040187_zps1c9576f1.jpg.html)



Tommorow, I'll paint the figures, and do the weathering ! Schedule respected, at least for now ;)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on January 04, 2015, 08:04:38 PM
:-* :-* :-*

Best white car I've ever seen! The blue one is super too! 8)

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 06, 2015, 11:36:29 PM
Thank you !

I almost finished the whole vehicles and gunners, I still have to add a few highlights on one of the crew members. I'm half happy with the white car gunner (colors too similar to the stowage...stupid mistake) but it will be good enough, I just want to paint something else than talibans now  :)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: CLT40K on January 07, 2015, 06:14:37 AM
They look great!  I really like the damage...
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 07, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
Thank you  !  :good:

I finished the vehicles this afternoon. Here's some pics of them :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070271_zpsbcacf676.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070271_zpsbcacf676.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070273_zpsc236e717.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070273_zpsc236e717.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070270_zpsf940de31.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070270_zpsf940de31.jpg.html)




(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070228_zps6d4f3803.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070228_zps6d4f3803.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070236_zps291e2dba.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070236_zps291e2dba.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070233_zpsfb8b6dd0.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070233_zpsfb8b6dd0.jpg.html)




(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070250_zps36aba952.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070250_zps36aba952.jpg.html)



(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070289_zpscf6b077b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P1070289_zpscf6b077b.jpg.html)





Only one pic for the white technical, I don't know why almost all pics I made of it are yellow-ish  :scratch:  I'll made new ones tommorow. The other pics are pretty accurate. I also added a bit of weathering on the red technical, since people told me that it was maybe a bit too light.

You can also see that I have been a bit heavy handed on the white car weathering (it was the last I made, I was bored of the chain work). I wanted dust, like on other cars, I obtained dirt.

Anyway, since I "ruined" it a bit, I used it to make some pigment practice here and there. I believe I start to understand how it works.

I'm happy to completed this project. To be honest, I was tired of painting these, at the end. Maybe  next year or so I'll add a few new things if needed for my games, but I consider this project done.


I'll add pics tommorow for the white technical.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on January 07, 2015, 08:40:03 PM
:-* :-* The white one isn't to weathered at all, it looks like a new car that has entered a war zone, with no one bothering to wash their car each saturday.

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on January 07, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
A nice end...

...for now.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on January 07, 2015, 08:50:54 PM
thank you !

I believe I "saved" it (the white technical) fixing some panel lines (colors had to be modified to match the "heavy" weathering), and using pigments (my first attempt). Overall, it could have been worst on this particular car !
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 07, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
Tonight I made my first game with the painted figures and scenery (and custom markers!). It definitly multiply the fun  :)



(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080105_zpse3c71d23.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080105_zpse3c71d23.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080110_zps5c780268.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080110_zps5c780268.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080091_zps963cba98.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080091_zps963cba98.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080079_zpsae363d01.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080079_zpsae363d01.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080113_zps6876e0f6.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080113_zps6876e0f6.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080088_zps01ef89d4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080088_zps01ef89d4.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080117_zps73cba825.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2080117_zps73cba825.jpg.html)


I still need to add new scenery : some dirt road, some river, some multiple trees bases (because individual bases are a pain  :?), and some rocky hills, wich will be usefull for all my games, no matter the period or scale (15 or 20mm).


On the afghanistan side, probably a few ruins, to make my compound bigger. This kind of assymetrical skirmishes games, you cannot have too much scenery.

I'll post new stuff soon, I'll make the "generic" scenery tommorow (I know, I've got plenty of other projects allready in progress, but this lack of basic scenery is still a problem).
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on February 08, 2015, 03:05:34 AM
It's satifying for me to see this project have come together - can only imagine how happy you must be.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 09, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
I started some additional terrains, wich were definitly missing to my current collection : dirt roads and rivers.


For now, I made some dirt roads sections :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090118_zps93220e34.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090118_zps93220e34.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090121_zps4edc89b9.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090121_zps4edc89b9.jpg.html)


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090124_zps5f079f58.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2090124_zps5f079f58.jpg.html)


Tommorow I'll make some rivers sections.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 09, 2015, 08:30:27 PM
8) very nice roads. How did you do them?

:-* beautiful vignettes of the battle. It looks spot on a news story :)

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 09, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Thank you !

they are done like gaming mats are done : with acrylic caulk, sand, some fine gravel (here, some clean cat litter), and then you have to "sculpt" the paste in a realistic way.

It's not something I invented : you can find tutorials for this easily with google, probably. Or even on LAF !
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 10, 2015, 06:28:07 PM
Rivers are done !

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2100139_zpsb78e75c9.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2100139_zpsb78e75c9.jpg.html)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2100142_zpscf9d3b14.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2100142_zpscf9d3b14.jpg.html)


2 rivers, a large one (1foot large in the largest width), so I can play special forces boats on it) and a medium one About 4' lenght of each. I also made a few turns for the small river.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Golgotha on February 11, 2015, 12:03:33 AM
Do love this thread some great innovative ideas, well painted minis and great terrain in particular I really like the vehicles.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 11, 2015, 01:33:08 AM
Nice work!! 8)
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 13, 2015, 04:17:19 PM
Thanks !

The roads and rivers are progressing, here's some pics. Tommorow I'll finish the paint, then I'll have to work on the water itself.

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 14, 2015, 04:53:51 PM
Roads are almost finished. Tommorow I'll work on the rivers !

Here's some pics :
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 14, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Looks good!

You may need a UAV next ;) ... Or a 1/48 gunship :D
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 15, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
Thanks !

The paint effects on river are completed. Basically, the idea is to fake deepness.

TOmmorow, once it will be perfectly dry, I'll add the final effects (water gloss texture, water sprays).

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Ash on February 17, 2015, 07:23:54 AM
Those all look fantastic
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: gamer Mac on February 17, 2015, 05:31:22 PM
Love the colour :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 17, 2015, 07:21:31 PM
thanks !

I just finished the varnishing process. I'm a bit concerned about the texture work I did, it's not perfectly clear  :?

We'll see once fully dry.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: warburton on February 18, 2015, 11:56:12 AM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 18, 2015, 07:36:15 PM
Thank you !

Sadly, the problem with waves effect remained. I'll try to fix it with sun light, it may help a bit.

Here's the pics, the last one shows the problem.

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on February 19, 2015, 06:05:45 AM
Wow! I've missed this thread earlier and it was a treat to go through it all! :)

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 19, 2015, 11:39:02 AM
Thanks !

I'm lucky, today it's a bright sunny day here, I placed the rivers outside, under direct sun, we'll see if it improves the "white fog" defects.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 22, 2015, 11:07:22 PM
The rivers still a bit "foggy", there's some small bubbles causing the white marks...Anyway, it will be good enough for home solo gaming.

Today I finished the tracks. I've got a lot for them, especially considering my solo 3x3' gaming board. I've been a bit stupid, I should have done some 15mm tracks for my 15mm project too, instead of a massive 20-25mm set. But I'm at least happy with the color matching, with the gaming mat, especially since I made the paint mix "by hand" (I didn't have paint left from the gaming mat project to paint the tracks borders, so I had to make some).

Here's the pics of it, tommorow I'll post the rivers (I'm currently finishing them). THe good thing also with these "soft" roads, is the fact they can be laid on a hill easily.

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Mr. Peabody on February 23, 2015, 12:41:18 AM
Wicked good.  :-*
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 23, 2015, 06:49:03 AM
That beige toyota has some great clearance  lol

They look good, and you managed to colour match perfectly! I cannot see anything wrong with the rivers either, they look cool. Id like some road myself.. perhaps after all my other odds and sods get worked out.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 23, 2015, 11:10:15 PM
Thanks for the comments !

Maybe there would be some roads and tracks to sell in a not so far future...But not tommorow  :D



Today I finished the rivers!

Here's the rivers pictures.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240431_zps9f3c5dac.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240431_zps9f3c5dac.jpg.html)


The big river :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240434_zps1c0ad91a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240434_zps1c0ad91a.jpg.html)



The small river :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240442_zps70e00086.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240442_zps70e00086.jpg.html)



The optional rocks sections (wich can be crossed by infantry. I need to build some bridges now for the vehicles).

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240437_zpscd0a2dc1.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240437_zpscd0a2dc1.jpg.html)


The optional turns for the small river (I didn't made any for the big one, since I haven't any board big enough for it).

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240446_zps8945a96a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/modern%20warfare/P2240446_zps8945a96a.jpg.html)



Now I'm back on the portuguese project. In the mean time (you know that I work on multiple things in the same time) I'll also work on bushs, trees, and stuff like that.


Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Mr. Peabody on February 23, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Those turned out really well.  :-* :-*

I'm very tempted to try the same thing for my table!  8)

Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: von Lucky on February 24, 2015, 09:00:20 AM
Very well - little bit jealous.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 25, 2015, 03:26:22 PM
thank you both for the comments.

Now I'm doing a break with scenery, I'll work on my portuguese force.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: Cosmotiger on February 26, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
The river sections are some of the best I've seen. I like fact that they are thin, and the line where the sections join is minimal.  (Sometimes scratchbuilt rivers get those unsightly gaps between sections, that's always bugged me).
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on February 26, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Thank you. That's why I used this technic for rivers, trying to make them thinner than the usual sectional rivers available,  realistic once on the board. We'll see if they are durable this way.
Title: Re: 20mm taliban force (vehicles, minis and scenery) : last update
Post by: sundayhero on June 01, 2015, 11:24:15 AM
Hi,

I may have rivers like this (soft "ribbon" rivers) and "rigid" ones to sell in the future, with the same water effect and finish.

PM me if interested ;)