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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: dberna67 on 07 January 2014, 01:13:57 PM
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Hi, I'm long time lurker of this forum but this is my first message ;)
Anyway I have one question about "correct" size for a Fistful of Lead game. Yesterday I bought the rules and some Artizan miniatures, now it's time for buildings. But, how many for a 2 player game (about 5/6 minia each)?
And what is the right dimension for the board? 4'x4' ?
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I'm sure Jaye will respond shortly, but this is from my own experience. If you are playing a specific scenario, you may not need more than 2ft square or less. As to buildings, that I think is a personal preference. If you want a town, then probably 15 - 20 buildings overall on a 6 x 4 or 4 x 4 surface. Again though, for specific scenarios you may only need a couple strategically placed.
Nick
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15/20 building seems too much for me but I'm here to know
I thought for 4x4 about 6/7 buildings + fences, barrels, crates, ecc
At least to start, who knows about the future .......
PS please apologize my english, I'm trying to write at my best :D
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One of the good thing with FFoL is that you can play on small tables like 2x2 (60cmx60cm) or ideally 3x3 (90x90cm).
5 to 10 buildings is perfect for table that size.
Your english is very good (for a french guy like me at least :P)
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Yep,
If you're doing a small 2 v 2 game a 2" x 2" is fine if you have lots of cover. Your models will already be within rifle range from the start. As you add players, I suggest adding footage/buildings. I run 8 player convention style games on a 6x4" table with 20 buildings. It allows a few turns of maneuver before the shooting starts. If you don't have a lot of buildings, remember you can have shootouts out amongst the prairie or desert. Maybe the the those dirty outlaws have a hideout in the badlands, or there's an indian attack on a settler's farmstead?
Any more questions, I'm here.
-J
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Thank you for your reply, I'll try in the first games the right dimension for the buildings I'll buy and everything else I'll put on the table (barrels, crates, vagon, sacks of flour, trees, fences, ecc ecc).
BTW do you have some more scenarios?
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I prefer 3x3 foot playing space with 6 to 10 buildings for a 2 player game. I have done games on larger tables for multi-player set ups as well but at home its never bigger the 4x6 and most of the western games and pulp games I do on a 4x4 card table.
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I'll have more scenarios for the upcoming book, but movies are your best scenario generator.
-J
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"upcoming book" !!
Just one word: when?
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I'll have more scenarios for the upcoming book...
-J
I just printed off the PDF, and will eagerly buy a professionally printed copy. Having said that, the PDF has some typos in it I'm hoping you'll fix before you go to print.
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We just played last night and the setup at Jaye's was 8' long x 3' wide. Main Street with 14 buildings, Livery at one end, Adobe low ranches at other, with some out buildings and of course blood alley.
7 players, 35 gang figures, 30 random towns people.
Much Carnage and Laughs. As usual.
I've played these rules since their inception and for about 15 years they still give a great game and much fun. Can't recommend them enough.
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Cpt Jake, where did you order? Earlier version had some typos.
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dberna67,
All I can say is soon. I'm working out the details for the campaigns, adding new scenarios and making a custom deck of cards. Right now it's reformatting, playtesting, and adding new art.
-J
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Cpt Jake, where did you order? Earlier version had some typos.
Wargame Vault, and I had just ordered and downloaded it a day or so before that post.
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I'll have to double check the file. Maybe they got an old one. I thought all the typos were fixed.
Here's a report in the meantime:
http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/2014/01/thursday-night-shootout.html
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I'll have more scenarios for the upcoming book
Do you have a publishing date for your upcoming book?
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Spring?
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I played my first game a fourtnight ago, 3x3 table with 2 vs 3 models and 7 buildings + a couple of outhouses.
http://www.argonor-wargames.blogspot.dk/search/label/Old%20West
I found that I need more stuff (wagons, carts, barrels, crates, maybe some civilians) to break up LoS, as the whole affair only lasted 3 or 4 turns (my opponent did roll a couple of 10s, so the avg game might last a bit longer on this setup).
My regular gaming buddy liked the rules, and they'll see much more action at my humble abode!
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I've just bought the Fistful of Lead rules, looking forward to trying them out when I have finished painting my minis.
Three more buildings arrived in the post today from Sarissa and I have 3 more on order from 4ground which I will pick up this weekend and one Knuckleduster building which is in the post which will give me 10 buildings for my town, which should be enough for starters.
I will have to pick up some clutter to block LoS at Crusade this weekend.
The only thing I haven't sorted is a cloth/mat to game on.
I seem to have gone in for this hook, line and sinker. :)
BB
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Three more buildings arrived in the post today from Sarissa and I have 3 more on order from 4ground which I will pick up this weekend and one Knuckleduster building which is in the post which will give me 10 buildings for my town, which should be enough for starters.
Rich b* ;)
I will have to pick up some clutter to block LoS at Crusade this weekend.
The only thing I haven't sorted is a cloth/mat to game on.
If you are pressed for time, just use a brown/tan bedsheet. Noone will notice, once the hot lead starts flying :)
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Rich b* ;)
Just buying a bit of stock while I'm working, in 2 months I will be living on my pension so will have to tighten my belt.
But on the bright side lots of time for painting figures :)
BB
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Regarding cloth/mat (apart bedsheet and self made) what are the recommendations?
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If you're not going to build a serious gaming mat (ie. the canvas/caulk etc.) just hit up the local fabric store and locate some camel coloured felt. You can add foliage, or spray, or some dirt/sand to it if you want. The only thing I suggest heavily (already mentioned) is what I like to call detritus.
Barrels, fences, gates, troughs, hitching posts, boxes, crates, wagons, wells, outhouses, sheds, etc.
They'll really make or break a game table. Buildings are fine and I don't think you need more than 8-10 really. It's all the other stuff which really makes a table shine and adds a lot of complexity. Also to avoid getting bored (depending on how often you play Old West) consider building two or three alternate boards/tables. I have an adobe village and a normal Old West clapboard town. I'm going to add some railway lines, and maybe a large ranch table at some point. Keep some variety goin'.
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Everything true, I spent the week end with the firsts detritus:
Barrels: Renedra
Fences: Renedra
More fences: from nativity scene
Stairs (to reach roofs): home made
Piles of lumber: home made
Jars: items from nativity scene
Stacks of wagon wheels: home made from nativity scene
Carriage: 4Ground (if I remember well)
Sacks of flour: work of my mom with cloth and stuffed paper
In the next few days I'll post some images
I'm waiting 8 house from Sarissa but I don't like empty table games
Next buys: crates, more barrels, ecc ecc
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Barrels, fences, gates, troughs, hitching posts, boxes, crates, wagons, wells, outhouses, sheds, etc. [/b]
Detritus, you call it.
I call it set-dressing, and I agree, this is the thing that turns a good gaming table into a brilliant visual scene.
I always try to place at least a one or two items of 'set-dressing' on each building base as well as litter the streets as much as possible.
In fact, I am actually awaiting a delivery from Ainsty as I write this.
Crates, boxes, sacks etc are all eagerly anticipated.
;)
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All my ground cloths are made the same way. The local mega-fabric shop sells cheap tablecloth material (used for outdoor picnics). Usually only $3-4 a yard. It has cheap plastic on one side, and not-quite-felt white cottony backing. Turn the cloth plastic side down and roll on your favorite color of latex house paint. It soaks up the paint. The plastic side keeps the paint from soaking thru and also keeps it from wrinkling. The plus is you can use the paint again to paint matching hills and rock outcroppings (if doing a more desert terrain). I've had might for years with constant play and no wear for dirt cheap.
-J
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I shall be making a beeline for the Ainsty stand this weekend to pick up some set dressing.
Just hope that SWMBO doesn't find out how much I have spent recently on my latest obsession. :)
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