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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: GilmoreDK on January 24, 2014, 10:00:17 PM

Title: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on January 24, 2014, 10:00:17 PM: Hi All

We just started up a new terrain building project. In the game you insert the fligt rods directly into the foam terrain boards in order to get rid of ugly stands and hexes. But our old boards are several hundred games and almost 20 years old.
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic111492_md.jpg)
Here is an old pic from when they were new...

So it is time for an update. The old ones are made from expanded polystyene and they work very well. But we decided to raise the bar a notch. Currently we have designed the boards and have made the first ones by making a negative cast in casting sand and then made the board in in a rigid castable polyurethane foam.

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1905411_md.jpg)

The board sections measures 60x60 Cm and in addition we will make a number of "special" boards such as frontline boards and an aerodrome.

Here is the design:

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1905416_lg.jpg)

it can be combined in various ways:

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1905415_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1905413_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1905412_lg.jpg)

I will soon post some pics of the rough cast sections.. We have a vain hope of getting the boards ready for the Hamburger Tactica wargames show in late February. Houses will be shapeways 3d prints from Kingscarbine and some of our own designs printed on a local 3d printer.

On another note: We have started building and shipping In Clouds of Glory" starter packs in order to help people getting started with the game.. The packs contain seven planes in 1/350 (1 Camel, 2 SE5a, 1 RE8, 2 Alb D.Va and a Dr.I) along with insignia decals (from Doms decals), cockpit panels for the planes, nose mounts, flight rods and a set of printed adhesivie laminate foil for making the turn and gunnery templates. We ship this for the cost price (around 40€) plus shipping. Contact us at contact (dot) icog (A T) gmail.com if you want to hear more.

Terrain boards can also be made MUCH quicker as can be seen in this German project – based on a ”get started easy” approach with easy boards and a ”starter kit” like described above.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-w4QqU5ykjQk/UqeBYi05zJI/AAAAAAAABw4/4MbrERCjJ7A/s400/IMG_20131210_193301_182.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tvJPPgVu1xE/UqdeFgeLTKI/AAAAAAAABtQ/wsmIyU99YU8/s400/IMG_20131207_180439_216.jpg)

More on his project and approach here:
http://zinngebirge.blogspot.dk/

More on In Clouds of Glory - including full rules here: www.icog.dk

- Svend
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: von Lucky on January 24, 2014, 11:49:33 PM: Great stuff - look forward to updates.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on January 26, 2014, 10:22:21 AM: Here is a sneak preview of the first four boards..

Still missing is houses and water.

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1907391_lg.jpg)

It seems we will be ready for Hamburger Tactica.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 26, 2014, 10:25:32 AM: Looks very good :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: FramFramson on January 26, 2014, 04:45:53 PM: Lovely! Can't wait to see the final product. :-*

Will the new hard material give you a longer lifespan for your boards, you think? I'd imagine the old ones must look like swiss cheese at this point.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on January 27, 2014, 11:25:13 AM: I actually think that the new boards will be somewhat less durable. But i think that a 10 years lifecycle would be just fine as well... The newish, very high, carbon flight poles has a larger diameter that the piano wire we started out with and thus gives some more wear so i think the boards will wear out quicker than the old ones.

But while the old boards are indeed holed like a cheese but that is not the key motivation for the upgrade. It is more that the old boards has seen a lot of combat, and transportation and it is beginning to show.
So either we should use a lot of time renovating them (giving them a layer of dilluted white glue on the underside would give them several years more in lifespan - as the glue would enter and re-inforce the holes from below) But a renovation would not be entirely satisfactory from an aesthetic perspective as they were made in one week by some young inexperienced modellers back in the mid nineties. And it is beginning to show as we raise the bar on the planes and other vehicles. Thomas who builds the new boards and is the co-designer of the game, works professionally as a movie set-designer and prop-maker and has gotten massive professional experience building stuff like this since (for example for LEGO commercials like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ch4X2F1j8g), so it would be natural to use some of the techniques and materials that has popped up since.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 27, 2014, 05:24:22 PM: :-*

Hi Svend,

Please take some pics of the PzGrey houses to post them on the Shapeways store and Facebook page.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on January 27, 2014, 07:33:00 PM: Hi Nuno

I will..!

We also plan to do some 1/285 - 1/300 WWII micro armour on the boards...

Best Svend
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Mason on January 27, 2014, 07:38:02 PM: Oh, these are certainly going to look good.
:-*
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on January 28, 2014, 08:46:41 AM: Some more pics - All models and houses are 1/350th scale 3D prints.

Thomas has just mad a test for the sea boards ( German W.12 floatplane and RN Thorneycroft 55ft Coastal Motor Boat).
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909899_lg.jpg)

The new boards - still missing water surface which will be made of "clear bond" and detailing.
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909897_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909898_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909896_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909893_lg.jpg)

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1909892_md.jpg)
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 28, 2014, 08:49:58 AM: Fantastic work :-* :-*

Love the water effect 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Mason on January 28, 2014, 01:27:50 PM: Gorgeous!
:-* :-*
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on February 04, 2014, 09:36:23 PM: Thomas is currently working on the village board and is trying out layouts of the village. Note the cast foamboards fresh from the sand cast

Houses are prints and resin from our own designs and from the PanzerGrey shop on Shapeways

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1918217_lg.jpg)

I will update when we get further with the build
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Turbo-Ben on February 07, 2014, 03:05:11 PM: I never took a closer look at the tactica on one of your games because I wasn't interested in small scale gaming but I think I will have to change that this year! Your new boards look just so damn good! o_o
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: grant on February 08, 2014, 03:33:16 PM: Quote from: GilmoreDK on January 27, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Hi Nuno

I will..!

We also plan to do some 1/285 - 1/300 WWII micro armour on the boards...

Best Svend

You now have my attention!

I would buy premade micro scale boards; although my focus is desert warfare 1948-1973, I have some Canadians for 1984 that could use some German terrain ...
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: von Lucky on February 08, 2014, 03:49:46 PM: And so it begins again... :P
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Driscoles on February 08, 2014, 04:01:02 PM: awsome work !
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: grant on February 08, 2014, 05:22:41 PM: Quote from: von Lucky on February 08, 2014, 03:49:46 PM
And so it begins again... :P

lol

No - just continues ;)
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on February 08, 2014, 07:49:37 PM: Quote from: grant on February 08, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
lol

No - just continues ;)

Heh.. do let me know if you get tired of my posting rate :-) ... i will slow down a bit...

also: Thomas who is currently building the boards will write up a proper "how-to" on the casting process soonish.
Here is the negative sand cast with a sunken road and a river...
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1922636_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: grant on February 08, 2014, 09:53:39 PM: Are these going to be available for purchase? How about a Golan Heights version? lol
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: tomek917 on February 09, 2014, 02:10:09 PM: These look great!
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on February 11, 2014, 10:33:02 AM: Ok, Hamburger Tactica in 11 days. We need to keep up the steam.

Testfitting boards.

We are both painting up houses for the village and Thomas is working on the last boards.

Here is a test fitting of the first batch of six boards:

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1925596_lg.jpg)
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1925597_lg.jpg)
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1925605_lg.jpg)
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1925607_lg.jpg)
(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1925608_lg.jpg)

As to making copies it is not possible as the sand cast is destroyed when you remove the board from the cast. But thomas will write up a "how to" on the process.
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Ray Earle on February 11, 2014, 10:41:30 AM: Those are really impressive. :o
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 11, 2014, 11:06:27 AM: o_o Must... resist... must... resist...
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Mason on February 11, 2014, 11:17:18 AM: This is coming together very nicely.
It is going to look stunning when you are done.
:-*
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Turbo-Ben on February 15, 2014, 06:47:09 PM: Those boards are super cool!
Do you bring some of your starter sets to Tactica?
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Sangennaru on February 15, 2014, 06:50:33 PM: I'm just SO impressed. Wow. Please, some more WIP photos! :-*
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: grant on February 15, 2014, 07:11:27 PM: Wow, those are impressive! :o :-* :o
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: Blackwolf on February 15, 2014, 07:19:32 PM: That is beautiful work :-* Gets one thinking about the possibilities; especially with forced perspective.You could do some lovely photos with the boards and larger scale 'planes.

FANTASTIC!
Title: Re: New In Clouds of Glory terrain building projects and "starter packs"
Post by: GilmoreDK on February 17, 2014, 08:07:18 PM: Turbo-Ben we will bring a few starter sets to Tactica..Also: Will post some pics of the build later this week.