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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: FifteensAway on January 29, 2014, 04:23:22 AM
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There was a post over on TMP showing a very nice steamer - a screw steamer on the Nile. Just curious if anyone here knows when screw steamers first appeared on the Nile? I thought all the steamers used on the Nile, at least the upper Nile during the Sudan events, were all either side or stern wheelers. Happy to be enlightened if my knowledge is defective.
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Kitchener started off his campaign with only paddle steamers. The Metemmah, the Tamai, the Abu Klea and the El Hafir/El Teb were stern-wheelers, I think, and these were what he had for the first part of the reconquest campaign. During 1896 three new purpose-built stern-wheelers were added to the flotilla: Fateh, Zafir and Nazir.
In the summer of 1898 the Sultan, Melik, and Sheikh arrived on scene. They were twin-screw armoured gunboats. So 1898 is the answer to your question, I think.
Edit: Spelled 'Sheikh' wrong and got my facts a bit muddled up. I think all is correct now. Doh! :)
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If the TMP thread you are talking about is the same one I saw, then the guy that made it does say in a secondary post further down the page that he based his model on the Sultan/Melik/Sheikh design. So it is perfectly kosher. :)
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Thanks, I'm sure its the same thread. Would have asked on TMP but too much unfortunate animus roaming around over there. Find I use it much less than I once did. So glad I found LAF, such a positive and friendly place - at least when I'm not being cantankerous! :o
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If you watch the Zoltan Korda version of "The Four Feathers" (the really good one from the 1930s with Ralph Richardson), then the big gunboat you see in some scenes is the actual Melik, playing itself (and/or the other two of the same design).
It also features loads of genuine Hadendowa, who were shipped in from the Red Sea Coast to the Nile to be used as extras. Because, hell, if you're making a Victorian Sudan adventure, nevermind if their presence is complete bollocks, people want Fuzzy-Wuzzies, dammit! lol Well worth a watch.
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Saw this thread and thought you didn't like Steamers on the Nile lol
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Saw this thread and thought you didn't like Steamers on the Nile lol
lol lol lol
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TDD,
Made me laugh out loud! And, for the record, I'm find with steamers on the Nile, even the screw powered variety. Thanks to Plynkes I'm now less of an ignoramus than I was. ::)
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There was a post over on TMP showing a very nice steamer - a screw steamer on the Nile. Just curious if anyone here knows when screw steamers first appeared on the Nile? I thought all the steamers used on the Nile, at least the upper Nile during the Sudan events, were all either side or stern wheelers. Happy to be enlightened if my knowledge is defective.
Like to see this, looked via search on TMP and got nowt. Could you please post a link to the thread?
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This is the one I was referring to, and it is probably the same thread FifteensAway saw:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=331523 (http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=331523)
Or a direct link to the blog, if you would prefer to bypass TMP:
http://laststanddan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/gunboat-building-gunboat-cairo.html (http://laststanddan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/gunboat-building-gunboat-cairo.html)
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Thanks Plynkes
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That's the thread - and some very nice models. And now I know more about the world than I did before - but still need to be a little more careful checking my spelling! :o
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Paddle steamers look better though don't they?
Ohhhh look a paddle steamer in 28mm!
Huh, a boat...
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Dear Boys,
What interesting topic.
I had it on a cruise up the Nile and I am sure this is what you call a screw steaming,
Keep it
Cecil
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A friend of mine once sailed (literally) up the Nile, but says she still met one of the qualifications with a delectable Nubian. ;)
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Paddle steamers look better though don't they?
Ohhhh look a paddle steamer in 28mm!
Huh, a boat...
I built a 28mm side paddle steamer, a RC version, for use on water. Wasnt actually powered by the paddles, though, couldnt figure out how to make it work (too much torque/resistance for the brushed engine, and the mechanics are complicated) so the side paddles were free spinning, and just spun as the boat moved, for looks. Is actually powered by a prop that was under the stern.
Really cool, but slow (have a RC boat that does 60mph). Have the stuff to make a remotely controlled cannon that fires, but never finished it. Moved on to a Ork warship ala 40k, which DOES fire bottle rockets, whistling Jupiters, and drops an M-80 mine (actually, a "Blockbuster", this waterproof killer of a firecracker that we hget at the Indian Reservation, not very legal)