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Title: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Stuart on 09 February 2014, 11:12:32 AM
Here we have a completed unit of French Pike, c.1513

Many thanks to this forum for helping me along (its been over a year since i posted the first converted figure) with encouragement and to Jim Hale for having me pester him incessantly about what exactly a franc archer was.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uq3GAn2Ov6g/UvdcMfFEKqI/AAAAAAAACas/NyEQRT4rJvw/s1600/PPike+030.jpg)

With that as a starting point and a lot of reading later I think / hope i've got it right for what the French infantry of Picardy may have looked like when mustered to deal with Henry's invasion.

You can see the full post with more photographs and a lot of musings via my blog;

http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/picard-pike-complete.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/picard-pike-complete.html)

All the best

Stuart
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Phil Robinson on 09 February 2014, 11:16:47 AM
Fantastic stuff Stuart.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 09 February 2014, 01:02:16 PM
Excellent  :-* :-* :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Captain Blood on 09 February 2014, 01:38:18 PM
Stuart, they look, as ever, bloody brilliant  :-*

One day, we really will have to try to organise a massive Lead Adventure grand late medieval game, for the hard-core Perry collectors and converters amongst us  :)
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Stuart on 09 February 2014, 02:19:20 PM
I'd be up for that, I might even bring some home brew Tudor beer !
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Arlequín on 09 February 2014, 02:44:35 PM
Great looking unit as always!  :)

Did you actually manage to pin me down on a definition of what a Franc-Archer was? I must be slipping...  :?

;)
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: 15thpanzer on 09 February 2014, 05:29:54 PM
I have run out of superlatives.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Captain Blood on 09 February 2014, 05:36:51 PM
I'd be up for that, I might even bring some home brew Tudor beer !

Sounds like the germ of a plan...
How about it chaps?  :)
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Hu Rhu on 09 February 2014, 05:41:12 PM
Sounds like the germ of a plan...
How about it chaps?  :)

Count me in.  :D :D
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Atheling on 09 February 2014, 05:59:23 PM
Stuart,

I have to really admire someone who really gets into the nitty gritty in researching an army. i've probably mentioned that to you before but it maybe needs saying again  8).

The painting is your usual very individual style and suits the period in a fantastic way. Beautifully done mate!

  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Cubs on 09 February 2014, 09:16:22 PM
Damn that's some lovely eye candy.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Gibby on 09 February 2014, 10:12:53 PM
Utterly amazing work. Those shields are astounding!
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Mike L. on 10 February 2014, 02:53:09 AM
When I see painting like this, I just want to break my brushes, throw my paints in "the bin" (as the Brits say) and cry.
In other words, this is amazing.  :-*
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: janner on 10 February 2014, 08:47:57 AM
More inspiring work - thank you :)
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: nelsons-signal on 10 February 2014, 11:36:25 AM

...fantastic - :o - painting and setting - can´t be better done!

Cheers
Achim
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: cdr on 10 February 2014, 12:24:01 PM
Nice franc-archers

If you have some French there is a very good article by Michel Petard (l'homme de 1450) Le Franc archer à Formigny, in a very old issue of Uniformes. Also good is Henri Lachouque 'dix siecles de costume militaire'

Carl
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: levied troop on 10 February 2014, 06:02:11 PM
I've always found your blog fascinating, not just for the period (I'm hoping to do a 1544 force at some point) but particularly for the approach to an 'obscure' army and the really beautiful painting.  Those French are quite inspirational.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: moonshado on 10 February 2014, 07:34:17 PM
Your usual brilliant work. The composition of your bases is as almost distinctive as your style of painting and both are a joy to view.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Stuart on 11 February 2014, 09:34:12 AM
Thanks all

These figures have been a long time in the making. The Tudors were also when I first started but after a while I got into the swing of using a few sources to work out their banners, heraldry, retinues and could usually find out a bit about their role in the campaign. Over the years for quite a few of them I also visited their castles, homes or places of rest - it felt strangely affirming to see their heraldry and badges, i felt privileged to know quite a bit about them. The net result was that I was reasonably confident to give a fairly accurate portrayal of these men.

As for the French, it really has been the opposite, like fumbling in the dark, I haven't been afforded any of the above so scouring libraries, the web and perhaps overall pestering people to try and help me, it's out of my comfort zone 'research' which goes a bit like this 'i notice you're french and like miniatures....can you help me !' the response i've had is great to the extent that people now just email me if they see anything that may be of interest. The power of the web really does help us solitary painters feel part of something.

I'm not a gamer so i'm prepared to wait until I think I have as much as i'm going to get before committing to producing a unit which will hopefully meet that brief of as near a historical depiction as is possible with the figures and information available.

Just reading that back sounds like i'm hoist by my own petard but I think everyone's collection whatever the period feels so much better and personal if you've made it your own by researching particular campaigns or personalities. I think my problem was I started with that then tried to find miniatures rather than the other way round. I don't think anything i've done was simply straight out of the box ! it makes me wonder why I do it sometimes but i can't seem to keep myself away.

So, er - that was longer than I intended but thank you is the short version !  :)

Stuart
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Coriolanus on 11 February 2014, 09:41:48 AM
.....frighteningly good  :o
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Atheling on 11 February 2014, 09:54:44 AM
Just reading that back sounds like i'm hoist by my own petard but I think everyone's collection whatever the period feels so much better and personal if you've made it your own by researching particular campaigns or personalities. I think my problem was I started with that then tried to find miniatures rather than the other way round. I don't think anything i've done was simply straight out of the box ! it makes me wonder why I do it sometimes but i can't seem to keep myself away.

Quite right too! A miniature collection of any sort is always a personal thing but as the sources get scarce things tend to become even more personal as you get deeper and deeper into a project. That is why, in my humble opinion, Late Medieval and Renaissance wargaming/painiting/converting etc can't be beaten....  it just takes so much research that it can't help but become a labour of love.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Arlequín on 11 February 2014, 11:41:09 AM
Ditto what Darrell said. I've found that when you lack focus and play something like 'The Wars of the Roses' or 'WWII' there's something lacking, but when you do 'The Towton Campaign' or in your case 'France 1513', or something else just as specific, it really comes to life and you tend to immerse yourself into the lives of the people involved... it has 'depth'.

It has been fascinating to watch the collection build up too, doesn't even seem like 'years'.  :o

So, er - that was longer than I intended but thank you is the short version !  :)


Pah! Compared to some of my posts that was barely an 'off hand remark'.  lol
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: dm on 11 February 2014, 08:10:35 PM
Awesome work all round :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: Hubbynz on 12 February 2014, 02:02:50 AM
love your work
Title: Re: Franc Archers of Picardy
Post by: tomrommel1 on 12 February 2014, 07:20:49 AM
like them a lot :)