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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Londoncopper on 09 February 2014, 01:29:56 PM
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This year Italeri are producing a Sherman, Cromwell, Panther and Puma in 1/56 scale.
They are also releasing Warlord/Bolt Action plastic figures in an Italeri box, German, British, Soviet and US infantry.
I am left wondering if the vehicles are merely Warlord resin models in a new box, rather than a model kit?
Depending on price, this could be very good news for wargamers.
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Exciting news! Do you have a link?
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I found it at http://www.italeri.com/news_scheda.asp?idNews=386
Page 7 on the PDF. The figures are Warlord but I am guessing the vehicles are going to be their own kits?
Steve
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As a producer I do think these are good news because,maybe now (due to distribution) people can access 28mm products not as a niche wargaming item but rather a more and more main stream wargaming scale...maybe now we can start to see younger wargamers with 1/56 soldiers and tanks and not 20mm...
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They have photos of painted samples of the BA figures. I suspect that if they were just repackaging Warlord figs they would have photos of samples as well. Besides, Italeri doesn't sell resin do they?
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Looks interesting! I wonder if the vehicles could be scaled-up versions of some of their plastic kits - I seem to recall that the 1/72 Puma has a "fast-build" option with simplified suspension, but the other three... I wonder if they could be scaled-up versions of the Esci models which have been a part of the Italeri lineup for some years now. Generally, I am more inclined towards 1/48 scale vehicles for 28mm, but who knows...
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I'd rather expect downscaling from 1:35
anyway, it says that the soldiers are provided by Warlord - that might exclude the vehicles
but the reason why they are doing this - I don't get it...
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This is interesting news, hopefully they won't be rip off prices like warlord.
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If they were 1/48 then surely they would say so, given that Italeri already produce 1/48 models?
I am hoping for 'quick build' type kits, rather like their 1/72 range.
Italeri have dipped their toe into wargame waters before with the 'Alzo-Zero' range, maybe they are having a second go.
Either way, when they do come out, buy them quick in case they vanish from their catalogue!
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What ever the source of the models - this must be good news.
I'll keep an eye out for the first releases.
Tony
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I'd rather expect downscaling from 1:35
In which case they would have to simplify the kits quite considerably - if they want to market them to a wargaming clientele, I strongly suspect they'll go for an "easy-kit" route, as evidenced by those of their 1/72nd kits that already follow that formula. Also, they might be betting on wargamers not being too picky on the level of detail, especially considering that modern 1/72nds are quite good in that area.
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this is a good argument.
I juts thought that the few 1/48 kits I built resemble more downscaled 1/35 than upscaled 1/72, but who knows nowadays
they might even do resins
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Italeri do produce in resin. The 1/72 wargaming buildings they produce are in a form of heavy duty resin. Airfix does something similar. That said I would expect them to produce vehicles in injected polystyrene, that's their main bag.
Italeri have been producing simplified wargaming kits in 1/72 for some years. They were in fact, the first cab off the rank in the current lot of 'fast build' manufacturers, before Zvezda, PSC, etc, etc. i can't see rescaling being an issue for them and I would predict anything in 1/56 is going to follow the construction pattern of their 1/72 kits, whether the vehicles are reduced 1/35 kits or new sculpts.
Why they would want to do this I don't know. Clearly they see an opportunity to grow their market and good luck to them. The vehicles may well be cheaper than Warlord as Italeri can leverage much larger and established distribution networks. Potentially it sounds like a good deal for Warlord, whose product may also gain access to that network.
Interesting, first example I can think of where a major player has climbed into bed with a wargaming manufacturer.
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That looks promissing!!! 8)
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Why they would want to do this I don't know.
Probably see a lot of older 40K players moving into Bolt Action
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Looks very interesting. I wonder when they are coming out?
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Warlord is making smart partnerships instead of fighting against them. Working with other companies grows the hobby...I have seen Warlord mention ROE on their own web posts along with Bolt Action. They are cross selling their product.
Plus the Itelleri sets are smaller plastic sets, half the box it seems.....so in case you don't need a full box you could pick up a less expensive box to round out your army.
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I agree that cross company co-operation is an excellent, (and very rational) idea. I'm interested in the vehicles, Italeri have a history of producing good scale models, & I'm wondering whether the level of detail on the planned vehicles will be at the high level of a typical scale model, or of a less detailed gaming piece (if indeed they're scaled down from their 1/35 offerings it promises a pretty high level).
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I hope these are properly scaled for 1/56 as mentioned - not re-hashes of 1/48 etc. I think Italeri is also making smart moves. Within the past few years they've been selling a bunch of "wargames approved" labeled kits. They realize there is a giant gap between modellers and wargamers for some reason ---- a silly issue which should be remedied, opening up both sides of the hobby to each other's resources.
If quality plastic kits were produced in 1/56th, I'm sure plenty of hobby model builders would buy them etc.
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Hello,
the Italeri 1/72 buildings I got are only plastik. No resin. The only Italeri-resin kits are some parts for planes, afaik.
Yours Sebastian
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Really interesting range. I opted for 1/48 because nothing else existed in other ranges. At lease 1/48 had a few planes and the odd tank. This is a great move.
I dont see the huge difference between gamers and hobbyists. I mean look at the fine detailed constructions around this place. But agreed they should be a little "study" :)
Cheers
Matt