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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: joe5mc on February 26, 2014, 09:15:00 PM

Title: The Glaurung Campaign - The Royal Guard of Tolfolas (Join the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on February 26, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
The shipwrights of Dol Amroth have almost finished work on The Glaurung, which will hopefully carry my brave group of heroes beyond the lands of Far Harad...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7355/12800890024_e2a4ab42a5.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/12800472105_37dc631d0e.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3712/12800892394_4ff91fd42b.jpg)

There is more pictures, more store, and a discussion of the building on my blog: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/the-glaurung-finished.html

And you can catch up on the full story of the Glaurung here: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/p/glaurung.html
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Gibby on February 26, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
Beautifully made!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Doomhippie on February 26, 2014, 09:30:59 PM
That is too and too cool. I like it a lot. It's a great idea to build the tent for it and I like the idea of giving the lady some privacy. Very noble. The model is great, you painted the ship up nicely and I really enjoy the idea of the good old Thieves of Tharbad cover as an inspiration.

Now all you have to do is recruit more heroes and then... well, I'll be looking forward to what happens next.

Keep us informed, this story is becoming more and more intersting with each new picture.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: jscottbowman on February 26, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
Great stuff! Nice ship and story, I'll be following their exploits.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: mweaver on February 27, 2014, 12:03:46 AM
That's a nice-looking ship.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Elbows on February 27, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
I like the ship...I think the tent could use something to indicate it's a tent.  I had assumed it was, but really it appears in the photos to just be a blue box.  Maybe some ropes coming out of the corners, or a more noticeable flap or something?  The ship itself looks quite excellent.  I just think the tent brings it down a notch.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Varangian on February 27, 2014, 01:35:19 AM
Nice work! There are a handful of details I would add, though if you're happy with it as is I wouldn't do anything else.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: joe5mc on February 27, 2014, 08:07:56 AM
Thanks guys.

I agree the tent could probably use something, maybe just a painted on flap or entry point on the front.  I'm certainly open to detail suggestions. The caveat being, I will invariably bang the ship around a bit and I don't want to have to keep gluing things back on!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Doomsdave on February 27, 2014, 08:31:07 AM
That is wonderful.  Is the whole scratchbuilt?  Or did you work from a conversion?  Either way well done!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: Mason on February 27, 2014, 08:37:43 AM
Brilliant!
 :-* 8) :-*

Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: steharan on February 27, 2014, 12:17:22 PM
Good stuff. I love the back story to it, keeps the whole thing tied together! and the rigging and sail look great!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings Ship (The Glaurung)
Post by: joe5mc on February 27, 2014, 12:46:27 PM
Not a scratch build. The hull is a single piece from Gripping Beast. I just added the little tent on the back as well as the mast and sail.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on March 01, 2014, 01:43:53 PM
The bells are ringing in Dol Amroth - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas has arrived to join the crew of the Glaurung -

You can read the full report here: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/altherion-sea-price-of-tolfolas-joins.html

(https://v4s1.yimg.com/sj/2894/12854531963_91f9e0fd0b.jpg)

(https://v4s2.yimg.com/so/7424/12854533263_2eaf9127ae.jpg)

Catch up on the campaign so far at: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/p/glaurung.html
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Little Odo on March 02, 2014, 04:41:55 PM
Another great addition to the crew
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 02, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
Excellent!

I've never thought about painting that model as anything other than Eomer but now that I see it done I have to say this is perfect. The choice of colors is great, the story is nice and I think this is a wonderful Addition to your crew. Very well done.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Smith on March 02, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
Really nice. I might suggest (if you do decide to repaint the shield a bit), having the top set of waves in white or a lighter blue (for crest/foam). That might lift the shield a little and compliment the star at its top.

Definitely think Altherion needs a bodyguard/henchman/loyal retainer though.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: jscottbowman on March 06, 2014, 01:35:45 AM
Good fun this, and a great way to make use of those spare extra LOTR models; paint them up differently and call them something else! kudos!
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Altherion, the Sea Prince of Tolfolas (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on March 08, 2014, 09:25:30 AM
It turns out, while everyone in Dol Amroth was focusing on Prince Altherion, another volunteer quietly joined the crew of the Glaurung. Peldroc the Hunter has had a very tough life.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2258/13006030543_41885cffbe.jpg)

You can read all about him, and find out why he might look just a little bit 'orcy' on my blog: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/peldroc-hunter-joins-glaurung.html
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 08, 2014, 09:46:53 AM
I agree to the points you made concerning the existance of xbows and your reasoning for still aloowing them in your campaign.

Peldroc's backgroundstory is cool. While Mr. Tolkien would probably disagree with the idea of a half-orc being a hero for the good side (tainted-blood and so on), I believe we have the right to gently change those idea and introduce a more modern view of what makes People good and bad. As such I can completely agree with this concept of the half-orc who hates his father's origin and tries hard to prove he is different.

And I like the model. Very impressive. Well done.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Gibby on March 08, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
I believe we have the right to gently change those idea and introduce a more modern view of what makes People good and bad. As such I can completely agree with this concept of the half-orc who hates his father's origin and tries hard to prove he is different.

But then, in the world of Middle Earth as Tolkien wrote it, the guy wouldn't last five minutes amongst the free peoples. Interesting idea, though, and great painting!

Doomhippie, without derailing this thread, I am curious to know why you don't feel crossbows should appear in Middle Earth. I thought they were a fairly old weapon, even in use by the Normans at Hastings etc, right at the very start of the Middle Ages. If the Hobbits of the Shire have mastered crockery and waistcoats, then someone's come up with a crossbow somewhere. :D
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on March 08, 2014, 06:04:18 PM
I think Doomhippie was just agreeing with me when I said that Tolkien hadn't intended for their to be crossbows in Middle-Earth. We can only really infer this from the fact that he never mentions ones, but he mentions bows all of the time.

As for half-orcs, if I remember correctly, it is implied that there is one in Bree hanging out with Bill Ferny, so they can move about in society if they don't look too goblinish...
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Gibby on March 08, 2014, 11:05:03 PM
I think Doomhippie was just agreeing with me when I said that Tolkien hadn't intended for their to be crossbows in Middle-Earth. We can only really infer this from the fact that he never mentions ones, but he mentions bows all of the time.

Very true. I never really thought about it, but I guess he would've mentioned them if he considered them to be in use.

As for half-orcs, if I remember correctly, it is implied that there is one in Bree hanging out with Bill Ferny, so they can move about in society if they don't look too goblinish...

Another good point. I forgot about him - it was very heavily implied he was a bit goblinoid. I hope you don't think my last post was criticism - far from it!
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Blackwolf on March 08, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
Nice work Joe :-* Love the effort you are putting into your ideas.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 09, 2014, 01:26:27 AM
Very true. I never really thought about it, but I guess he would've mentioned them if he considered them to be in use.

Another good point. I forgot about him - it was very heavily implied he was a bit goblinoid. I hope you don't think my last post was criticism - far from it!

What he said...  ;)

Seriously, I like to engage in educated discussions about Tolkien's World. I think it adds to the flavor, so to speak. And as I often seem to play around with various ideas and Scenarios for Middle-Earth I find it very inspiring to see other people's take on that world. That's why I love these theme oriented Middle-Earth threads.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Gibby on March 09, 2014, 01:34:58 PM
What he said...  ;)

Seriously, I like to engage in educated discussions about Tolkien's World. I think it adds to the flavor, so to speak. And as I often seem to play around with various ideas and Scenarios for Middle-Earth I find it very inspiring to see other people's take on that world. That's why I love these theme oriented Middle-Earth threads.

It is a testament to the richness of Tolkien's world that we could spend hours and hours discussing it!

Also:
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Squint-eyed_Southerner
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: jscottbowman on March 12, 2014, 02:19:53 AM
It is a testament to the richness of Tolkien's world that we could spend hours and hours discussing it!


I agree, and I find it interesting, that from what I have seen from comments on the appendices of the Ext Eds of the DVDs... that Tolkien was rather keen for others to use his works as a framework and elaborate and continue them, so I like to see this kind of material being written , as  long as it does not stretch too far from the 'canon', then I feel it further enriches the world of Middle-Earth...
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Peldroc the Hunter (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on March 20, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
Rymond the Breelander becomes the last of the heroes to join the crew of the Glaurung.  A bit of a conversion - something I'm not very good at.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3692/13295997495_cf2f472310.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/13296372344_d018dfaa51.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/13296158163_e2562ae9e5.jpg)

You can read all about Rymond on my blog: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/rymond-breelander-joins-glaurung.html

Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: FramFramson on March 20, 2014, 11:37:50 PM
No good at? Looks just fine to me!
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: von Lucky on March 21, 2014, 08:28:57 AM
I agree - nice conversion and painting.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 21, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Another great addition. I really like your Background stories (don't I say that evrytime?) - though dwarves don't teach their language to outsider... (ha, Tolkien geeking again - I love it). This is a great rpg-like background and I enjoy the feeling that your heroes are all individuals with their own identity. Well done.

As to the conversion: better than anything have ever done.  :)
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Belgian on March 21, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
Another great addition. I really like your Background stories (don't I say that evrytime?) - though dwarves don't teach their language to outsider... (ha, Tolkien geeking again - I love it). This is a great rpg-like background and I enjoy the feeling that your heroes are all individuals with their own identity. Well done.

As to the conversion: better than anything have ever done.  :)

Not knowing much about the Tolkien universe but how does Elrond then knows what the moon runes mean on the Erebor card during the Hobbit? And how Gandalf can read the runes on the entrance of Moria as well as the book in the tomb of balin?
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Smith on March 21, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
though dwarves don't teach their language to outsider...

Ah, but if The 13th Warrior taught us anything, it's that languages can be picked up from immersion, especially if (as here with Rymond) one has an ear for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnnREr8BV24
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 21, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
Not knowing much about the Tolkien universe but how does Elrond then knows what the moon runes mean on the Erebor card during the Hobbit? And how Gandalf can read the runes on the entrance of Moria as well as the book in the tomb of balin?

Simple: The dwarves used Elvish language to write being paranoid that others might pick up their language from written examples.  ;)

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Ah, but if The 13th Warrior taught us anything, it's that languages can be picked up from immersion, especially if (as here with Rymond) one has an ear for them.

And that's the reason they never speak it in front of others. Except in their battle cries.

But never mind that, as I said it's just Tolkien geeking on my part.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on March 22, 2014, 08:04:09 AM
But aren't those Dwarvish runes we see on both Thorin's map and on the Tomb of Balin?
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on March 22, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Well, in the movies maybe. Not in the books. Though I'm not sure if Tolkien was already into the language Paranoia of the dwarves when he wrote the Hobbit. In the appendices (or was it the Silmarillion?) he states that dwarves don't usually write their language down and don't teach it to anybody. Again, there are obviously exception to the rule - as far as I know Gandalf claims to know Dwarvish.

As I said, it's a purely intellectual exercise on my part here. I believe the backgroundstory of Rymond is great and I don't see any Problem with it. Hey, after all, Tolkien's world should be and is open to individual interpretation.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - Rymond the Breelander (Joins the Crew)
Post by: joe5mc on April 17, 2014, 05:26:51 PM
It seems that Prince Altherion has brought a few of his household troops, the Royal Guard of Tolfolas to join crew of the Glaurung...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7178/13889458942_62a9aa7116.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2887/13912626993_a41c65c9b1.jpg)

As always, if you want more info, check my blog: http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/the-royal-guard-of-tolfolas-join.html
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - The Royal Guard of Tolfolas (Join the Crew)
Post by: Mason on April 17, 2014, 08:01:17 PM
Nice neat paintjob, just fine and dandy, and I certainly like the idea of the Royal chap taking his bodyguard along with him.
A good element for the storytelling side of the project.
 :-* 8) :-*

Two spaces left, eh....intriguing as to what exactly will fill them.
A 'thief' or scout type character may be helpful... ;)


Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - The Royal Guard of Tolfolas (Join the Crew)
Post by: Doomhippie on April 18, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
Well, the 13th warrior so to speak. Maybe some native from Harad who knows the lay of the land. Either as a sellsword Kind of person or perhaps one who is not too happy with the Dark Lords design on his homeland. No matter what, I'm looking forward to new and exciting ideas.
Title: Re: The Glaurung Campaign - The Royal Guard of Tolfolas (Join the Crew)
Post by: Jevenkah on April 18, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
This is a fantastic project to follow! I'm looking forward to the group shot as they depart.

Jevenkah