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Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 06 March 2014, 06:57:28 PM
Hello all

Prof.Witchheimer this is for you. :D
A roman assassin and a patroll river boat.
The boat its not ready yet. Its a conversion from a SMER viking drakkar.
The assassin, following previous posts its a pictish warrior from west wind as it is without conversion.

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 06 March 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Lovely updates! That assassin is a very nice idea, definitely. The boat seems to in be in the right scale but I'm not sure the design, would it be appropriate for the Ancient era? I'm not that into the boats, honestly, just wonder, the only reference of a small Roman boat I know is this relief.
Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 06 March 2014, 09:21:21 PM
Hello

Professor, the idea came from these pictures.
I know that its not exactly the same but its the closest i could get.
I hope they can give better ideas for others with better skill in scratch built than i.


Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 06 March 2014, 09:39:27 PM
The first pic is a gem  :-*
Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 06 March 2014, 10:02:55 PM
Hello all

Here are more pics of roman boats (one is from Spartacus last season) as well as a tent conversion from a plastic one from renedra.

Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Carpathian on 07 March 2014, 01:10:35 AM
Like the boat.   Roman merchant ships (as opposed to military vessels) seem to have come in all shapes and sizes.    There were also special craft for transporting up the river Tiber from the port.

http://www2.rgzm.de/navis/Themes/Commercio/CommerceEnglish.htm
Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 07 March 2014, 07:45:22 AM
thanks for the link Carpathian, very interesting. Now I need someone who can build that boat in the proper scale for me :)

(http://www2.rgzm.de/Navis/Musea/Ostia/Homepage/Image/FrescoCommercio.jpg)

What does the second (from the left) guy hold in his hand, is it fish bones?
Title: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: nervisfr on 07 March 2014, 08:01:18 AM
Could be interesting to recreate this nautical part of the topic into a new one.

Rumaraca, like your last pictures about roman force.
I have just started some roman Foundry centurions with stick/club for police duties in my street. Or to get back some legionary on leave to the barrack !
a kind of MP force !
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 07 March 2014, 08:12:17 AM
Could be interesting to recreate this nautical part of the topic into a new one.

Done!
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Rotorcraft on 07 March 2014, 09:18:13 AM
Super inspiring thread, being the roman a maritime empire we rarely see that transported  to our usual games.

Please, keep going with that flow of amazing posts.  :-*

Regards.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Hammers on 07 March 2014, 09:47:10 AM
Having just been to Rome and the ruins of Ostia Antiqua I find these images very evocative.

Peder
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 07 March 2014, 11:39:08 AM
Hello all

So,a post with romanus nauticus feeling, huummm....
Ok so i place everithing with a nautical flavour including ancient sailors?

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: nervisfr on 07 March 2014, 12:45:41 PM
i haven't an harbor in my future roman city.............
 :(

and no time at the moment to built river boat... :'(


if you need guys to handle your boat, see that welsh figurines from GB :

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/photos/bwk09.jpg)
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 07 March 2014, 02:47:27 PM
...by coincidence I've just started a Roman naval project, which I'll piggyback onto this thread.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1NtPhRFaJ18/UxnV39owsGI/AAAAAAAAIYg/03KRbE_HgwA/s1600/DSCN3696.TIF.jpg)

Later, I'm going to make these look a bit more Roman, by adding steering oars, and hopefully a few converted crewmen.

http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/a-new-project.html (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/a-new-project.html)

I am also (very slowly) converting this ship into a "swan neck":-

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_29pPGHzSH0/UqsdjXDOh3I/AAAAAAAAHos/jq2wjJx-CfQ/s1600/DSCN3549.JPG)

Cheers, Simon
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 07 March 2014, 03:10:08 PM
wow

This post will jump high...
Locks like i have to post some more items regarding sailors.
Some of my gang figures will certainly do for roman armed crews.
Eric those welsh are very nice indeed but the idea for this boat is a armed crew as if it was a patrol or advancing scouts on enemy territory.
I will make a review of my armed fiures and post it.

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 07 March 2014, 03:28:19 PM
...by coincidence I've just started a Roman naval project, which I'll piggyback onto this thread.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1NtPhRFaJ18/UxnV39owsGI/AAAAAAAAIYg/03KRbE_HgwA/s1600/DSCN3696.TIF.jpg)

Later, I'm going to make these look a bit more Roman, by adding steering oars, and hopefully a few converted crewmen.

Simon, nice to see you here again!  :) these boats are looking good, where are they come from?
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 07 March 2014, 03:36:00 PM
Hi Prof,

Sorry I've been away; I'll try to post more regularly.

I found the pirate ships on this site, in the rowing boat section!  I used the sea-pup.

http://www.gamesofwar.net/acatalog/Pirate_Supplies_Store.html (http://www.gamesofwar.net/acatalog/Pirate_Supplies_Store.html)

They were very cheap, free postage, and a fine casting.

Cheers, Simon
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 07 March 2014, 03:42:45 PM
I know, you was busy painting your countless legions and phalanxes. And your wonderful Celts, of course, too  ;)

Thanks for the link, some very useful stuff there.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 07 March 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Wonderful Celts?  Scum!  ;-)
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: nervisfr on 07 March 2014, 04:15:00 PM

Eric those welsh are very nice indeed but the idea for this boat is a armed crew as if it was a patrol or advancing scouts on enemy territory.
I will make a review of my armed fiures and post it.

Rumacara

I propose them as standing rowers for some light river boat
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 07 March 2014, 04:19:26 PM
Hello all

I did understood Eric but the boat is to be stationned on a harbour or something else.
Nevertheless those welsh might give some ideas for more gangers.

Thanks

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Carpathian on 08 March 2014, 06:00:18 AM
Computer generated tours of ancient Ostia, pretty cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiI8sbqRDjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ382-AvDk
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 08 March 2014, 08:30:35 AM
Computer generated tours of ancient Ostia, pretty cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiI8sbqRDjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ382-AvDk

Very inspirational. And you can see some nice cargo ships in the second video!
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 08 March 2014, 10:24:26 AM
Hello all

If it is cargo ships that you are searching, here they are :D

Hope its usefull.

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 08 March 2014, 10:29:31 AM
and a few more :D

Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: former user on 08 March 2014, 10:32:08 AM
wow, these are gerat projects

and the resin boats are really cheap!

but please don't let the rowers work in armour  ;)
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 09 March 2014, 10:03:11 AM
Hello all

former user, do not worry. I will not put rowers. The boat is to be stationary. lol


Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Rotorcraft on 09 March 2014, 02:04:00 PM
Hi Prof,

Sorry I've been away; I'll try to post more regularly.

I found the pirate ships on this site, in the rowing boat section!  I used the sea-pup.

http://www.gamesofwar.net/acatalog/Pirate_Supplies_Store.html (http://www.gamesofwar.net/acatalog/Pirate_Supplies_Store.html)

They were very cheap, free postage, and a fine casting.

Cheers, Simon

I´m interested in them. Just a quick question:

Did they sell you just the forward part of the craft or did you just discard the rear of six boats?

Regards.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 09 March 2014, 02:39:55 PM
I had to saw them all in two!  It only took a couple of minutes for each boat, as they are a plasticky-resin.  I have 8 sterns in a bag in the loft, awaiting inspiration.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 11 March 2014, 05:34:18 PM
Hello all

Here are some updates on roman ships. :D

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 11 March 2014, 06:37:16 PM
http://www.barrageminiatures.com/8-vehiclesboats
What do you think about these Vietnam River boats?
They look "ancient" enough to me, especially with eyes painted on!
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 11 March 2014, 06:48:46 PM
...I quite like the smaller boat from the same firm.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 11 March 2014, 09:13:25 PM
Hello all

Here are some updates on roman ships. :D

Cheers

Rumacara


I love this harbour diorama. Where did you find it, any link by chance?

http://www.barrageminiatures.com/8-vehiclesboats
What do you think about these Vietnam River boats?
They look "ancient" enough to me, especially with eyes painted on!

They're looking good. I might get two of them.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 11 March 2014, 09:18:33 PM
Hello Professor

As usual i collect the images from the web sites but i dont keep the link  :'(

I think it was on a brittish museum web site but tomorrow i will give a look and if i find it i will post the link.

Cheers


Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 11 March 2014, 09:21:04 PM
Thanks, that would be great, would love to see more of the diorama.
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 11 March 2014, 09:24:38 PM
Hello Prof.

Found it

http://www.pla.co.uk/News/Thames-history

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 11 March 2014, 09:30:54 PM
Many thanks! Now I've found even more pics. Breathtaking!

(http://www.britarch.ac.uk/cbalondon/images//24.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/London-Roman-model.jpg/1024px-London-Roman-model.jpg)
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 11 March 2014, 09:35:01 PM
Hello all

Yes Professor, i forgot those. Lots of great ideas

Check these links

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2029532/Roman-port-unearthed-soldiers-launched-invasion-Wales-2-000-years-ago.html

http://museumvictoria.com.au/education/learning-lab/ancient-roman-empire/slaves-eye-view/

On the last one check the small gallery on the right side lol

Cheers


Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 11 March 2014, 09:39:32 PM
Hello all

Jokes appart i´ve gathered a lot of information (images) for the roman period, from buildings to ships, harpours, civilian life, roman equipment, etc.
If anyone is searching for something just let me know and i will try to help the best i can.
I will place here or send by email.

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 11 March 2014, 11:40:01 PM
Am loving that model...
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: nervisfr on 12 March 2014, 08:19:06 AM
Many thanks! Now I've found even more pics. Breathtaking!



very interesting but that's modelling business....It's difficult for us (wargamers) to be so efficient in the details.
So many things to do in so little time.... :D
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 12 March 2014, 08:25:28 AM
Hello Eric

Yup so many things and so few time. :'(

One of my mad ideas is to buid an harbour for pirates but once more i also got the stupid idea to build it for other periods so i´ve started and as many projects its on the shelves gaining dust and waiting for better days to finish it.
When i have time i will post it (not mutch to see but maybe it gives some ideas).

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: rumacara on 13 March 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Hello all

This post would not be nothing without a crew for a boat. :D
So here is mine so far. I just choosed some of the figures of my gang suitable for a crew.

Hope this gives ideas for you all to start your own crews.  :)

Cheers

Rumacara
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Matakakea on 13 March 2014, 05:12:52 PM
Just to to let you know that the diorama above is in the Roman Gallery of the Museum of London, open 1000 - 1750 Monday to Saturday, 1200 - 1750 Sundays. 'Promotional mode off'

Yes, we are proud of it. :D
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: former user on 13 March 2014, 05:41:27 PM
Yes, we are proud of it. :D

which You certainly should be!
then tell us please the scale it's made in
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: bigredbat on 13 March 2014, 05:48:45 PM
It is a stunning model!
Title: Re: Romanus Nauticus
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 14 March 2014, 09:22:06 AM
Just to to let you know that the diorama above is in the Roman Gallery of the Museum of London, open 1000 - 1750 Monday to Saturday, 1200 - 1750 Sundays. 'Promotional mode off'

Yes, we are proud of it. :D

Thanks for the heads-up! Are there more close-ups anywhere on the web, for us, living outside of UK?