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Miniatures Adventure => SuperHero Adventures => Topic started by: fourcolorfigs on April 07, 2014, 05:01:58 PM
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Folks, we're live! Check out the SuperSystem 4th ed. Kickstarter page here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/222965736/supersystem-4th-edition-super-miniature-battles
Thanks for backing us, and spread the word!
Team up with the World's Most Versatile Super Miniature Battle Game and bring your tabletop super-slugfests to life!
Thanks!
--Scott & Four-Color Studios Team
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Backed, I'd love to get in for a hardcover book but total price plus shipping to the Netherlands simply is above what I'm allowing myself to spend on games right now. Glad to see you have a PDF only option tough, and at such a good price!
Would have liked to get my hands on that miniatures, but again the shipping... :'(
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Backed, I'd love to get in for a hardcover book but total price plus shipping to the Netherlands simply is above what I'm allowing myself to spend on games right now. Glad to see you have a PDF only option tough, and at such a good price!
Would have liked to get my hands on that miniatures, but again the shipping... :'(
Alas, I know. Those numbers reflect the reality on the ground. International shipping is expensive. Packing material, boxes, tape, fuel to drive packages to post, etc. It all adds up. But we're glad to have you at any level!
Thanks so much!
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Backed!
Regards
Jim
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Alas, I know. Those numbers reflect the reality on the ground. International shipping is expensive. Packing material, boxes, tape, fuel to drive packages to post, etc. It all adds up. But we're glad to have you at any level!
True enough, I'd rather have realistic numbers from the get go then a kick-stater that ends up not paying of because the prices were to low.
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One thing I will say is don't sleep on the Super Team level--if 5 like-minded souls from the Continent (or wherever) pool their resources and make one pledge, the shipping becomes a bit more manageable.
Thanks!
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Backed!
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Backed!
Danke!
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Backed. :)
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Probably my last ever "Supers" buy so go big time...
$65 commitment.
Maybe I should be committed...
Gracias,
Glenn
Edit: since I have 15 mm supers - anyone (a club or group would work best cost wise because of shipping) interested in buying up my 25+ mm Supers collection? List available via e-mail, (after tomorrow night,) from ZorroGames AT att DOT net only please...
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Also backed.
Jim
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backed
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Leon, Glenn, Swiss Tony--thanks! And Leon, I know you're head must be spinning with your KS success! Thanks for thinking of us!
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woot
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Backed. Will spread the word as well. ;)
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Without a doubt, backed! 8)
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Would have liked to get my hands on that miniatures, but again the shipping... :'(
Contact me since I don't need another "big" superhero miniature. Either PM or ZorroGames AT att DOT net and lowest price we can work out for shipping I will forward it to you.
Gracias,
Glenn
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I'm in.
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I'm in as well, simply because I know it's a very good game. If I didn't already know it from having played a fair bit of 3rd edition however, the cost might have kept me away. $80 to ship to Canada, before factoring in the exchange rate, is pretty pricey. I certainly hope we hit some stretches!
Oh, I forgot about that mini that I joined the mailing list for. That helps even it out a little bit. :)
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I'm in if anything just to support a good rules engine and a quality guy in Scott. I was part of the Goalsystem Delves kickstarter and couldn't be happier.
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Normally I don't check on KS because funding is a bit variable and it reminds me of watching a pot boil but ...
142 backers; $5,282 pledged of $12,000 goal; 18 days to go
Gracias,
Glenn
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Actual play video!
http://youtu.be/Wfse7LL67lM
Thanks!
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I was going to ask about tutorial videos yesterday...it's like you have super powers or something!
That's really helpful, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
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I was going to ask about tutorial videos yesterday...it's like you have super powers or something!
That's really helpful, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
Just watch him roll the dice.
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Just watch him roll the dice.
Those were some pretty incredible rolls, weren't they? :o
And his opponent rolled the worst he could to make it REALLY bad... :D
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I'm in as well, simply because I know it's a very good game. If I didn't already know it from having played a fair bit of 3rd edition however, the cost might have kept me away. $80 to ship to Canada, before factoring in the exchange rate, is pretty pricey. I certainly hope we hit some stretches!
Oh, I forgot about that mini that I joined the mailing list for. That helps even it out a little bit. :)
I'm in the same situation. The postage makes it a bit of a problem for me
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Actual play video!
http://youtu.be/Wfse7LL67lM
Thanks!
Is it possible to get a mic for the next videos. I couldn't listen to the audio
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Is it possible to get a mic for the next videos. I couldn't listen to the audio
Sorry! We shot a lot of the initial video content all at once, so I am afraid the sound will be the same.
When we make the next batch, we'll use the mic.
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Scott,
May want to drop something on these gaming spots to draw in more people to the KS...
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/
http://ttfix.blogspot.com/
Patrick
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You know I pretty new to the superhero gaming scene and the advent of S2 4th is what got me in. The past few days I realized how rewarding a genre this is. Very much the epitome of skirmish gaming. Every model you use has cool powers and abilities and with a bit of creativity you can use so many different kind of miniatures. I for instance have a large pile of random dreamblade and mage knight models that suddenly look very appealing to use as super hero or villain. Extremely rewarding! :)
On a completely different note: Looking trough the powers available to a normal human most appear easy to explain, highly trained acrobats/athlethics or smoke grenades and flashbangs explain most of them. But Force Dome I just cant explain for a "normal Human" without entering superpowers or super sience explanations.
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I for instance have a large pile of random dreamblade and mage knight models that suddenly look very appealing to use as super hero or villain. Extremely rewarding! :)
The genre has a lot to work with, and now is the right time to get in.
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Sorry! We shot a lot of the initial video content all at once, so I am afraid the sound will be the same.
When we make the next batch, we'll use the mic.
I'll try to see if I can reduce the levels on the audio to take the high-end out then :-)
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You know I pretty new to the superhero gaming scene and the advent of S2 4th is what got me in. The past few days I realized how rewarding a genre this is. Very much the epitome of skirmish gaming. Every model you use has cool powers and abilities and with a bit of creativity you can use so many different kind of miniatures. I for instance have a large pile of random dreamblade and mage knight models that suddenly look very appealing to use as super hero or villain. Extremely rewarding! :)
On a completely different note: Looking trough the powers available to a normal human most appear easy to explain, highly trained acrobats/athlethics or smoke grenades and flashbangs explain most of them. But Force Dome I just cant explain for a "normal Human" without entering superpowers or super sience explanations.
Yes! That's one of the central selling points of SS4, IMHO. You can do pretty much anything, and use pretty much anyone's miniatures for it.
The next video will feature some Crossover Miniatures (I think--not sure what order Rico will post them in), so it's an example of using whatever is in your collection.
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Hey, folks! We've got a miniatures-related update on the KS:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/222965736/supersystem-4th-edition-super-miniature-battles/posts
Special 50% offer on one order of SuperFigs of any size for qualified backers!
Thanks!
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Sounds like a good offer!
I was hoping for your guys honest opinion on something, I am currently churning over the stats for a rather heavy attack helicopter I have in the mail (pictures to follow I'm sure) and I am considering the possibility of giving it a pilot known as ace, who has "normal human" stats and super human stats with the "only in a vehicle" mod. I'm even considering buying Ace as a sidekick for the helicopter. While was rather pleased with the idea it mediately felt a bit cheesy. You know the idea of a guy who's "power" is superhuman piloting skills in any vehicles is pretty nice, but the end result still appears as a way to get bonus stat point for the helicopter. The model is fully enclosed and could well do with the Independent special effect I might add.
So what do you guys think, fun gimmick or cheezy min-maxing? lol
EDIT: also flying says models targeting flying models with attacks should simply measure the linear distance between them. Does that mean you do not then add the height they fly at?
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Sounds like a good offer!
I was hoping for your guys honest opinion on something, I am currently churning over the stats for a rather heavy attack helicopter I have in the mail (pictures to follow I'm sure) and I am considering the possibility of giving it a pilot known as ace, who has "normal human" stats and super human stats with the "only in a vehicle" mod. I'm even considering buying Ace as a sidekick for the helicopter. While was rather pleased with the idea it mediately felt a bit cheesy. You know the idea of a guy who's "power" is superhuman piloting skills in any vehicles is pretty nice, but the end result still appears as a way to get bonus stat point for the helicopter. The model is fully enclosed and could well do with the Independent special effect I might add.
So what do you guys think, fun gimmick or cheezy min-maxing? lol
EDIT: also flying says models targeting flying models with attacks should simply measure the linear distance between them. Does that mean you do not then add the height they fly at?
I would assume you would be treating the copter like an alternate form? I think it would work.
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nono, just a normal vehicle. Who has a "dedicated driver" who happens to be super awesome when piloting stuff.
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nono, just a normal vehicle. Who has a "dedicated driver" who happens to be super awesome when piloting stuff.
I could see this design perhaps two ways....
Buy the vehicle as part of the team with the hero cost of 75pts. Come to think of it you could make the pilot the "sidekick" I don't think there are rules against you pulling that with the changes made to the rules.
Or build the pilot at 75pts and buy the coptor as a sidekick.
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One of my players wants a "Mimic" character from Exiles...not quite sure how to represent this one, as "copy power" only lets you choose one. Mimic can copy up to five. Should that be a pool maybe?
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50% Superfigs, how can I resist?
Also, how do I claim, will I have to wait until after the KS?
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50% Superfigs, how can I resist?
Also, how do I claim, will I have to wait until after the KS?
I asked that on the update and was told there will be a special code for backers after the KS ends. :)
This could be bad for the lead pile....
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Buy the vehicle as part of the team with the hero cost of 75pts. Come to think of it you could make the pilot the "sidekick" I don't think there are rules against you pulling that with the changes made to the rules
Thats exactly what i was thinking. (Should have worded that better) point is, especially when i give the pilot higher stats with a "only in vehicles" mod isnt that a bit like a cheap way toget more point for my vehicle?
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One of my players wants a "Mimic" character from Exiles...not quite sure how to represent this one, as "copy power" only lets you choose one. Mimic can copy up to five. Should that be a pool maybe?
Negative Ghost Rider.....Copy Power allows you to target up to 3 powers. While not 5, 3 is more reasonable and should work for the player's needs. Or have them make an Elemental Pool called Power Mimic, could even add Omni then to limit it. Make it like Super Adaptoid.
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Hey, folks! We've got a miniatures-related update on the KS:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/222965736/supersystem-4th-edition-super-miniature-battles/posts
Special 50% offer on one order of SuperFigs of any size for qualified backers!
Thanks!
Okay, maybe I will order some 15 mm supers to modify since i already own the standard ones... But first I need to make room in the storage bin area by unloading stuff I already have!!
Gracias,
Glenn
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Folks, I am not going to sugar-coat this--we've lost momentum. If things don't improve dramatically in the next few days, we may have to look at some contingency plans.
I wanted this to do well, but on my own terms, and I am willing to go out on my own terms too.
In any case, SuperSystem 4th ed. will exist and be available for sale at some point soon. It just won't be in shops, or in the nice, hardcover edition we imagined for it.
I want to thank everyone who has supported us--your belief in us heartens me and will motivate me to see the book to its completion.
Thanks, again!
--Scott
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Tough call but a good call I can respect. Sad to see what seemed to be happening last few days playing out this way - and hoping for a Dues Ex Machina to happen but not expecting it - since it started out strong.
If it does succeed I will rejoice and if it doesn't then I will wait to see what your contingency plans are...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Folks, I am not going to sugar-coat this--we've lost momentum. If things don't improve dramatically in the next few days, we may have to look at some contingency plans.
You are over 50% funded. I'd be concerned if you were at 30% or so but you have to remember that a lot of projects get a huge upswing in funding in the last 48hrs.
On a personal note, the USPS is not doing you any favours for this project. I know you can't (and shouldn't) do anything about that but the project borders on unfeasible for me in Canada due to shipping costs. Even just doing a PDF copy and some dice isn't really feasible due to the additional shipping.
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You are over 50% funded. I'd be concerned if you were at 30% or so but you have to remember that a lot of projects get a huge upswing in funding in the last 48hrs.
On a personal note, the USPS is not doing you any favours for this project. I know you can't (and shouldn't) do anything about that but the project borders on unfeasible for me in Canada due to shipping costs. Even just doing a PDF copy and some dice isn't really feasible due to the additional shipping.
Yes the USPS is not quite on the same par as the Royal Mail it seems but one wonders how much of this is just reality based market decisions. I am very frustrated with this aspect (corrected the "asspect" spelling but only because I know my personal grammar Nazi will spot it and call me on it) but it seems to be just a fact of life to deal with.
Que será, será...
Gracias,
Glenn
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You are over 50% funded. I'd be concerned if you were at 30% or so but you have to remember that a lot of projects get a huge upswing in funding in the last 48hrs.
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That would be good but it is something you can't plan on happening, unfortunately. It would be prudent to make contingency plans that you hope you don't need...
Gracias,
Glenn
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I don't disagree with Pixelgeek. I'm a huge fan of the game but I had to think pretty hard before I put in my pledge. The outside-the-US shipping fee is really tough to swallow. I'm still hopeful that you'll hit your funding. Even if you don't, I'll still be buying a copy of the new rules at some point!
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Thanks, folks! We'll see what happens in the next few days.
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Thanks, folks! We'll see what happens in the next few days.
Is there a way to reduce the print costs down to make the goal if we don't get near the 12k? Say we hit 9k for example, perhaps go with a spiral bound B&W with a color cover. Perhaps reduce the Appendix sections to Free PDF downloads to save more page space.
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Perhaps reduce the Appendix sections to Free PDF downloads to save more page space.
Not trying to be critical, because that sounds a valid way to reduce costs but I really like Appendixes... Appendices... where is my Grammar and Spelling Nazi when needed... but sometimes I wonder what the actual costs to the company producing the products are and how they impact the production of rules/miniatures.
I like Free. :D THW supplies free scenarios and I like that as an option. :) But it took time ($$) to produce them which is time not spend on supplying more product that business can sell to fund more production. I wonder where the line lies from a business sense.
I really like having an appendix in rules. One of my pet complaints actually so that would be a negative for me personally. Since I am in for the run currently it is moot perhaps but if I start seeing cost cutting of that nature I am less prone to participate in future efforts. That may be just be me but I control my money... ;) and I try to not move from value conscious to Scrooge McDuck while not (any more) buying stuff I will just sell off at a loss five years later. lol
Color doesn't impress me in rules unless there is clear necessity for color but I believe many have come to demand "pretty pictures." That is always a costlier option, IMO.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Cutting down page count is not a huge issue when it comes to costs. If we cut it in half, that would be one thing, but cutting 32 pages is not going to matter a ton.
I would be reluctant to cut anything from this edition and change the nature of the product and of the project. We are locked in at our number at this point. We'll see what happens.
There's been some encouraging movement in the last 24 hours. Let's hope the trend continues!
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I hope that further play videos might convice people who are still on the fence over this. I know for a fact that seeing a game being played ofthen is what gets me to shell out on it.
Still I am glad you are so frank with us Scott, and that you clearly have a realsitic vieuw of things. This forum has more then a few examples of over funded kickstarters going wrong in the end. Mayhaps yours will be a underfunded one going right?
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I hope that further play videos might convice people who are still on the fence over this. I know for a fact that seeing a game being played ofthen is what gets me to shell out on it.
Still I am glad you are so frank with us Scott, and that you clearly have a realsitic vieuw of things. This forum has more then a few examples of over funded kickstarters going wrong in the end. Mayhaps yours will be a underfunded one going right?
Thanks, YPU! Only time will tell. We have another play video in the next update, going off today or tomorrow.
BTW, I love that color pic of Megladon so much, that I purchased the rights to use it from Rich and it's going on the back cover of the book! He spent something like 20 hours coloring that thing, and I did not have the heart to not use it in its full glory.
The full-color archetype pics he's doing are also amazing, but alas, in the book those will be b&w.
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Scott, sometimes I wonder if people should just produce books of artwork (especially color) that didn't make the cut for rules. :o just saying... 8)
While I am critical of glossy color filled products (not speaking to your work here) with crappy rules that almost seem like an after thought and push the costs up for the rules, >:( I do like the color pictures artists take such time and effort to produce. There are times when it almost hurts to throw old calendars out that have great artwork but the years don't repeat (though sometimes it seems that way.) A lot of my old LOTR calendars were of that nature in the past.
Now there is a kickstarter - pictures that were edited out for rules production but are a crime not to publish somewhere...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Thanks, Glenn! I've taken to using my old color calendars as holiday wrapping paper. Once you get the hang of folding the thicker paper stock they're printed on, it's a pretty slick way to reduce, reuse, and recycle!
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Thanks, Glenn! I've taken to using my old color calendars as holiday wrapping paper. Once you get the hang of folding the thicker paper stock they're printed on, it's a pretty slick way to reduce, reuse, and recycle!
To quote Gru, "Light Bulb!"
Gracias,
Glenn
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Scott, sometimes I wonder if people should just produce books of artwork (especially color) that didn't make the cut for rules. :o just saying... 8)
While I am critical of glossy color filled products (not speaking to your work here) with crappy rules that almost seem like an after thought and push the costs up for the rules, >:( I do like the color pictures artists take such time and effort to produce. There are times when it almost hurts to throw old calendars out that have great artwork but the years don't repeat (though sometimes it seems that way.) A lot of my old LOTR calendars were of that nature in the past.
Now there is a kickstarter - pictures that were edited out for rules production but are a crime not to publish somewhere...
Gracias,
Glenn
I knew a guy that would take his favorite calendars and remove the spiral binding to save the artwork, then have a copy place print his next year one for him and spiral the pictures into the new one.....he would often mix artwork also to make his own unique look for his calendars.
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I knew a guy that would take his favorite calendars and remove the spiral binding to save the artwork, then have a copy place print his next year one for him and spiral the pictures into the new one.....he would often mix artwork also to make his own unique look for his calendars.
Now that is awesome...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Another day another question. ;D
What is the duration of the Flare power? Neither the power nor blinded section mention how long it stays in effect.
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I would just like to give my 2cents and second the positive effect a good video can make. About a two months ago I came across the Beasts of War site and ended up watching quite a few of their videos. I had participated in the Dreadball, Deadzone and other kickstarters but hadn't really motivated myself to paint up any teams etc. After watching their videos I starting painting again and not only that ended up buying Bolt Action and nearly bought Flames of War. Normally I wouldn't bother watching an hour video of two guys playing Dreadball, but they showed real enjoyment and communicated the rules and their enthusiasm - it was hard not to become enthusiastic myself.
I would far rather play SuperSystem - I haven't yet - even though I bought the rules quite a while ago and even bought three Superfigs teams. I don't doubt we will hit the funding goal and I personally would love to reach the full colour stretch goal - might be a bit harder though.
I understand your reasoning behind keeping the kickstarter limited and applaud your dedication Scott, that said people just seem to want to throw money at miniature based kickstarters as the last couple of years have shown. - I had no intention of ever buying Pulp City - I wanted the freedom of SuperSystem - but that didn't stop me from going all in on PC.
I suppose I'm just saying don't give up, stay positive (don't mention any doubts on kickstarter) and get some really enthusiastic gameplay videos up - maybe use the BoW site as a guide (I know tastes will vary regards video style)
Chris
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Thanks, Chris!
On the no-miniatures issue, I will explain a little further. We chose another route because we knew our limitations. Joe is in England, and Rico and I are in the USA. Rico works full time and has a family, and I work about 54 hours a week at two jobs. Plus my writing. While I possess excellent access to Old Glory, I simply did not have the logistical wherewithal to organize and run a KS that included the number of figures required to engender the sort of buzz other KS drives have gotten.
Folks can armchair quarterback it, but I ran a KS with lots of bling once before, and it was not easy. And I delivered on time. There are so many awesome super miniatures out there, we really felt like focusing on the book, and its merits, was key for us. I will sleep well at night, succeed or fail, knowing I put together a KS I could deliver on time and within budget. One that I could pay the folks helping me what they deserved, and that I'd have a really great looking rule book by the end of it.
Fear not, SS4 will see production, but should we fail, it will likely never make the wider distribution I had hoped for. Luckily, POD has gotten so good, that a book from Lulu or Drivethru RPG is not a bad thing.
Thanks, again!
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Another day another question. ;D
What is the duration of the Flare power? Neither the power nor blinded section mention how long it stays in effect.
We added this text:
Targets can shake off the effects of Flare by spending 4 AP and making a TN=4 Resolve (Mind-based) or Toughness (Strike-based) check.
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Folks, we updated with another actual play video here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/222965736/supersystem-4th-edition-super-miniature-battles/posts/815038
Thanks!
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I think you are not really interested in backers from europe. I asked a question about the payment methods and never received an answer! Very disappointed about that, X-Over-Miniatures offers a better service...
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Scott is a top notch guy, if he hasn't answered yet he's busy, you can be assured of that. These campaigns are hard going and take a great deal of time, add in juggling family life, work, and the fact it's a big holiday over here. I'm sure you'll get an answer.
I work on a computer all day, not everyone is so lucky ;)
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I think you are not really interested in backers from europe. I asked a question about the payment methods and never received an answer! Very disappointed about that, X-Over-Miniatures offers a better service...
That is, being as polite as I can be, quite an assumption. Emphasis where appropriate.
Most people in the miniatures business still have a real world boss to deal with plus family issues. Our hobby interests are something they try and fulfill as time allows.
Gracias,
Glenn
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NurgleHH - The thing I find really troubling about your post is that Scott had just explained our real world situations a few posts back. I will bring your query to his attention, but perhaps a bit of patience is in order.
I can assure you that we are interested in backers everywhere.
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I think you are not really interested in backers from europe. I asked a question about the payment methods and never received an answer! Very disappointed about that, X-Over-Miniatures offers a better service...
I would agree with the guys above....I know I have read several times that he works two jobs, close to 50+ hours a week and family also plus managing the game project execution. If he didn't respond it isn't because he does not care but busy. Things happen and fall into the cracks. I think even you have at one point or another forgot something or dropped the ball on something? I would drop another question, PM here or hell he may even answer it here on the forums if you care to ask.
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Sorry, i'm Not with you. One small answer Needs Less than 5 seconds. And when you Start a Kickstarter you will Receive questions...
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Sorry, i'm Not with you. One small answer Needs Less than 5 seconds. And when you Start a Kickstarter you will Receive questions...
Where did you ask and under what user name? I looked back through this thread, and the Kickstarter comments (about 5 days back) and saw no such question. Did you PM it to Scott?
What, exactly, was the question? it only takes about 5 seconds to post it here. Someone else may be able to answer it for you...
~Eric
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Where did you ask and under what user name? I looked back through this thread, and the Kickstarter comments (about 5 days back) and saw no such question. Did you PM it to Scott?
What, exactly, was the question? it only takes about 5 seconds to post it here. Someone else may be able to answer it for you...
~Eric
Thanks for your interest. I ask via the kickstarter, because it was a special question. I ask if there is only the chance to pay via amazon payment. I wanted to pledge, but I won't pay via amazon. Simple question, I think. I t was nearly one week ago, when I asked.
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Thanks for your interest. I ask via the kickstarter, because it was a special question. I ask if there is only the chance to pay via amazon payment. I wanted to pledge, but I won't pay via amazon. Simple question, I think. I t was nearly one week ago, when I asked.
I'm sure you are aware that you cannot pay by any method other than Amazon Payments during the Kickstarter proper.
Whether or not there will be any sort of after-campaign pledge manager has not been confirmed yet to my knowledge. That is not an entirely simple issue and Scott may not have made any decision about it just yet.
So, I would remain patient for the time being. If your question was missed earlier, it is certainly known now. And I am willing to bet that you are not the only one who would like to know the answer.
~Eric
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I'm sure you are aware that you cannot pay by any method other than Amazon Payments during the Kickstarter proper.
Whether or not there will be any sort of after-campaign pledge manager has not been confirmed yet to my knowledge. That is not an entirely simple issue and Scott may not have made any decision about it just yet.
So, I would remain patient for the time being. If your question was missed earlier, it is certainly known now. And I am willing to bet that you are not the only one who would like to know the answer.
~Eric
Is it new decision, that it works only with amazon payments or the decision of the kickstart-manager? I remeber my last Kickstarter worked with creditcard.
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Is it new decision, that it works only with amazon payments or the decision of the kickstart-manager? I remeber my last Kickstarter worked with creditcard.
You can use a credit card, but the payments will still be processed though Amazon Payments. I don't know for sure if Kickstarters run out of countries other than the US (i.e. UK, Canada) use this system 100% of the time though. I forgot about that.
Out of curiosity, which KS did you back that you did not go through Amazon Payments? It may very well have been one run out of the other countries, which could explain the confusion.
~Eric
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I apologize I did not respond sooner. I received this communication, but did not follow up immediately as I was not sure how best to proceed. Then I got busy and it got lost in the shuffle. KS requires Amazon Payments.
If our KS succeeds, we can talk about other folks getting in on it with outside PayPal or other payment methods, but I am taking no outside pledges via any other mechanisms at this point.
Let's fund first, Ok?
Thanks!
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I can only speak as a UK person but all of the recent KS projects i've backed have exclusively used Amazon payments. I assumed it was a Kickstarter thing.
Good to see the pledge totals creeping up. I'm increasingly comfidemt the 12 k funding total at least will be hit.
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I apologize I did not respond sooner. I received this communication, but did not follow up immediately as I was not sure how best to proceed. Then I got busy and it got lost in the shuffle. KS requires Amazon Payments.
If our KS succeeds, we can talk about other folks getting in on it with outside PayPal or other payment methods, but I am taking no outside pledges via any other mechanisms at this point.
Let's fund first, Ok?
Thanks!
Thank you for your answer. I do not use amazon payment and know a lot of people, which do not use it. I hope the KS will raise it money without my pledge. Would be annoying, if the money is missing at the end.
KS is doing a stupidity, when they only use amazon payment. Wider spread methods are better for the pledgers.
Sorry, when my dissapointed answer here was to harsh. It was nothing personal.
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KS is doing a stupidity, when they only use amazon payment. Wider spread methods are better for the pledgers.
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There seems to be a lot of that in large organizations, (usually management chains although I, from first hand observation, tend to place senior union leaders in that category too,) which makes you scratch your head. Other than the US Federal Government (especially the IC) it seems to be driven by (short term "right' in many cases) financial factors. TINSTAFL and offering credit/debit cards, Paypal, Amazon, etc, involves finance resources being diverted from other parts of the company/organization. Only NGOs are best known for making 'noble' decisions that totally ignore financial reality. The fact that more options (in some cases) gives you more income long term is ignored/glossed over by some financial managers. In their defense, it can be an option that may not bring in the returns to justify the expense. Single payment options are often simpler to manage.
The consumer always has the option to not use a form of payment. I personally would like to avoid Credit Cards but have no problem with Debit cards/Paypal or other forms of payment that are limited by what funds you, (well, I,) actually have the resources to use. I still use Credit Cards but a good month is one in which another one can be "closed" (actually or virtually.) I am not thrilled by the number of pieces of plastic I seem to have accumulated over my many years but some, (like my Federal government CC for TDY - which I don't do,) are mandated by agency/Company policy, sort of like my "accidentally destroyed" brown cover (not blue cover which might actually be useful) government issued Passport (I definitely don't do overseas TDY to garden spots like Iraq or Afghanistan.) In summary, organizations make decisions using an "internal logic" that often runs the gamut between WTF to penny wise and pound foolish with rare bursts of true wisdom.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Thank you for your answer. I do not use amazon payment and know a lot of people, which do not use it. I hope the KS will raise it money without my pledge. Would be annoying, if the money is missing at the end.
KS is doing a stupidity, when they only use amazon payment. Wider spread methods are better for the pledgers.
Sorry, when my dissapointed answer here was to harsh. It was nothing personal.
No worries! Thanks for your interest! Whether we fund or not, the book will be available in both PDF and print form in the next couple of months. I will keep folks apprised of the situation here and elsewhere.
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No worries! Thanks for your interest! Whether we fund or not, the book will be available in both PDF and print form in the next couple of months. I will keep folks apprised of the situation here and elsewhere.
I Hope so, have to Order it After the ks., because I don't Support amazon-payments.
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Don't ask me how, but somehow Amazon Payments works through my PayPal account. o_o
As far as I can recall, I've never had an Amazon account, it just works that way somehow.
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Hey scott, I was working on a super idea i cooked up and found that one part was rather hard to do. Basicaly a character who places bombs around the field and detonates them at a oportune moment. Is there a way to do this?
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Don't ask me how, but somehow Amazon Payments works through my PayPal account. o_o
As far as I can recall, I've never had an Amazon account, it just works that way somehow.
Interesting, I look up why it works in the net... Than I can pledge and support
Update: I tried it and there is no chance without amazon payment.
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Amazon payments is a payment processing portal. How you link your accounts to it determines where your money will be debited.
I have two forms of payment tied to my Amazon payments profile and can pick either one: Credit Card (for when I'm stupid) and Paypal via my Paypal linked debit card (essentially a credit card tied to my paypal account limited by my balance)
I believe the reason they use Amazon is because they are one of a few services that can process a deluge of payments at once without grief for the backer or the kickstarter when a kickstarter ends. I also believe it's because you can schedule the payment for the end date of the kickstarter where other services may want to process it immediately. I'm also sure there is a financial consideration as well in regards to fees
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Hey scott, I was working on a super idea i cooked up and found that one part was rather hard to do. Basicaly a character who places bombs around the field and detonates them at a oportune moment. Is there a way to do this?
Perhaps using some conditional Power Modifiers? Maybe using the Lingering Power Mod as well? I'd have to look at it. Interesting concept!
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Perhaps using some conditional Power Modifiers? Maybe using the Lingering Power Mod as well? I'd have to look at it. Interesting concept!
I could totaly see it as a new power mod That allows you to "place" the power and then later activate then for aditional AP. It could get token heavy however.