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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: Rob_bresnen on 01 May 2014, 01:33:57 PM

Title: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 01 May 2014, 01:33:57 PM
Here is my first stab at some overgrown ruins for Across the Dead Earth- the setting is a post apoc Britain, and the ruined buildings tend to be over grown with vegetation

this is a Timeline Miniatured building, post apoc'ed up a but...

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2211.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2211.jpg.html)

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2210.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2210.jpg.html)

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2209.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2209.jpg.html)

Now I am sort of happy with this, but not entirely. I think its on the right lines but I wanted it to feel a bit more like this...

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/RyPV3.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/RyPV3.jpg.html)

I recon that next time I should have had piles of broken bricks heaped around it so teh base wasn't so flat, and possibley tattered of wallpaper and furniture inside, but I am welcome to any other suggestions about how to get that 'abandoned to nature' look I am after.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: robh on 01 May 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Agreed, it should have a lot more rubble, fallen beams and broken furniture around (inside and out), you probably won't go far wrong if you pretty well fill the base with detritus.
Also it is a bit "clean", there are many houses around here with worse looking paint jobs and they are lived in! Needs a lot of moss and lichen growth, water stains and general grime.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Silent Invader on 01 May 2014, 02:56:37 PM
Agree with everything Robh says.

Don't forget to leave room for the minis when placing rubble and don't be afraid to use dark washes for dirt (demolished buildings produce a lot of dust). Climbing vegetation and bushes can be created using torn up balls of pan scrubber rolled with some clear solvent glue, with flock fixed on top with pva.

From some of my not-ATDE projects that show what I mean:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/2031_18_06_13_11_21_24_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/2031_01_05_14_3_44_18.jpg)
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Brummie Thug on 04 May 2014, 02:28:48 PM
I think if you did some green/brown water stains to the interior and add a bit of growth on the internal walls it would change it a lot perhaps a few tin cans or paper or something.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Sterling Moose on 04 May 2014, 11:33:34 PM
Yep I agree, nice but needs more grime, plants growing inside and through windows and gaps in the walls.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 May 2014, 12:05:07 AM
I like this project quite a lot!  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 09 May 2014, 11:43:52 PM
Thanks for all the advice and suggestions.

I had a second go at this ruin and added a lot more much and green slime, and added cracks in the plaster work- simple stuff, but I think it has helped. I will try to be a but more adventurous with the next one, and add some rubble and some wall paper etc.


(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2247.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2247.jpg.html)

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2248.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2248.jpg.html)

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2249.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2249.jpg.html)

(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/Rob_bresnen/IMG_2250.jpg) (http://s443.photobucket.com/user/Rob_bresnen/media/IMG_2250.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: zizi666 on 10 May 2014, 12:00:25 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
That is one fine piece of scenery.
Might I suggest a floor on top of the small room (planking)
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on 10 May 2014, 05:09:19 AM
I like how thin the walls are Rob, not thick foamcore, it looks good. But you need more rubble unless its been 'scavenged' clean  ;)

Steve, why post pictures of archers with their eyes closed? Get back to painting your castles and post in the correct thread  ;D  ;D  ;D

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Silent Invader on 10 May 2014, 06:33:26 AM
Steve, why post pictures of archers with their eyes closed? Get back to painting your castles and post in the correct thread  ;D  ;D  ;D

Hrumph!  It's there for the vegetation man, not the archers, the vegetation!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on 10 May 2014, 07:30:32 AM
Sure Steve, more like increased thread promotion ;) lol lol lol

Sorry, back to the ruins. They look good, I'd reccomend grit/bricks/rubble in the corners.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Brummie Thug on 10 May 2014, 10:16:21 AM
That's looking much better mate.  ;) Fantastic job :)
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: DELTADOG on 10 May 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Good progress atm. but it looks NOT very ruined neither weathered. The still missing Rubble has been mentioned already, but there is a Failure in the Weathering itself, which makes it look so sterile and artifical. Weathering on walls almost form vertical strokes from a horizontal edge. And the darker colorareas done by black mildew is more clowdy not that spotlike you did it.

(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20071121/Weathered-Brick-Wall-524084.jpg)

(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20080728/Weathered-Wall-825219.jpg)

Hope that helps you. Just google pictures with the words "weathered wall" and you will get plenty of examples.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: fastolfrus on 10 May 2014, 09:11:44 PM
Steve, why post pictures of archers with their eyes closed?

To avoid red-eye from the camera flash?
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on 10 May 2014, 10:32:09 PM
 lol

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Adm Richie on 22 May 2014, 11:50:44 AM
This looks great! I have some of the 4Ground buildings which are as close as I get (no scratch building talent here I'm afraid), which serve their purposes but this is really cool.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Silent Invader on 22 May 2014, 12:51:17 PM
To avoid red-eye from the camera flash?

Nope, because I (mostly*) don't like painted eyes.  Feel free to mock away.

*Bugsda gets it right but he is far more talented than I.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Silent Invader on 22 May 2014, 12:54:06 PM
Sure Steve, more like increased thread promotion ;) lol lol lol

Nope, just trying to be helpful with the vegetation.  Post counts don't interest me.
Title: Re: Across the Dead Earth Scenery prototype (help and advice needed)
Post by: Gun bunny on 22 May 2014, 06:51:07 PM
the red brick ruin would look better with a tile floor over concrete foundation, though i am not saying there is anything wrong with the model as is. nice work by the way,budo.  :) :) :)