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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: ErikB on 07 May 2014, 05:29:35 PM
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Is there something about resin that does not work with cyranoacrylate (crazy glue)?
I purchased HF's magnificent Wolf with two girls figure and cannot glue on the hand and sword, even after holding them in place for 3 minutes.
Any ideas about gluing resin?
Worthy of note: I did sand the joint surfaces very smooth. That may be an issue, I'm not sure.
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It works for me (at least sometimes) to put a very small piece of tissue paper/toilet paper betweenn the two pieces before glueing.
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bit of Greenstuff+Superglue sticks after 5 Seconds
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Great ideas, thanks!
How strong is the bond afterwards?
Does the green-stuff continue to stick to the resin, long-term?
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yes no Problem,it will stick even after stripping the Miniatures or dropping to the Ground lol
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Smooth is worse - a slight degree of roughness can be better in my experience.
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Did you degrease the resin? I had lots of trouble with some 15mm SF buildings to get the primer to stick to them. Had to soak them in dishwater for a day... Twice ! And even then there still were some spots I had to treat with sandpaper.
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What works for me. A small ball of Magic Scupt on the wrist and while still fresh a small drop of cyanoacrylate glue. The glue will take immediately because of the tackiness of the Magic Scupt.
Strongest bond ever. I've had (metal) shields glued on like this that wouldn't come lose with pliers afterwards.
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Oh, greenstuff still wet or dried overnight before adding superglue?
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still wet :) Put a bit of GS on one Part and a dot of Superglue on the other Part,press them together,Jobs done.For really small Parts i.e glueing Hands etc i suggest liquid GS
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I usually use a dot of white glue along with the super glue for tough assemblies. Always works for me.
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Awesome! Just worked on a Big Boris! Wolf is next.
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Epoxy is IMO the way to go with resins. I know a lot of modelers who just use superglue for everything, but I've got a durability fetish.
I use JB weld for wee gaming mini bonds, both resin and metal (with a little superglue just to tack it in place while the JB weld cures). JB Weld gives the best bond at that size, but it's goopy and takes hours to set, so I can see a putty like GS being a decent compromise to make the process easier to handle.
With larger resin pieces, I use regular 5-minute epoxy. Scuff the mating surfaces (and I actually score crosshatching in them with a dental scraper for good measure), apply the epoxy, and press and hold for the couple minutes it takes to gell, ignoring the excess that squishes out of the seam. Once it's gelled, you've got a few minutes where the epoxy had a rubber cement-like consistency that bonds the joint, but also allows you to cleanly peel away the overflow that sqeezed out the joint.
The result is a clean, easy bond that is rock solid to a degree than actually makes pinning completely unnecessary. The two parts may as well have been cast as one.
Liquid GS as I understand it isn't an epoxy, but rather a solvent-based lacquer putty (GS only in name, basically, but actually the same sort of thing as Squadron Green or Bondo glazing putty). As a glue, I wouldn't expect it to bond any better than PVA.
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I'm a fan of durability too. I typically use 2-part 5 minute epoxy for most applications, though on rare occasions, I'll break out the 30-minute epoxy if I want a ludicrously strong bond. However, with 5-minute epoxy, I can hold the pieces together by hand if there's no decent way to clamp or support them (which happens more often than I'd like). I also typically pin any small joins.
I will use cyanoacrylate on hard styrene plastics though (like GW's plastic kits for instance). The pieces don't weigh so much that epoxy is as necessary and the CA actually bonds the plastic directly a bit, so you'll normally get excellent bonding. But that's regular plastics, not resin.
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Not all "super glues" are super. Cheap "bargin store" super glues are normally crap. Use a good hobby produced super glue and try not to use kicker as it sets the glue fst but weakens the bond. JB weld is great and they do make a 5 miniute version "JB Quick" not as strong but still very good.