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Title: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: V on 14 July 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Colours used;

Miniature Paints Burnt Umber
GW Khemri Brown
GW Codex Grey
Vallejo Dark Flesh

GW Devlin Mud Wash
GW Black Wash
GW Ogyrn Flesh Wash


As I have no pics of the skeletons I did friday, I tried out a test on a figure for Downlode. I base painted the figure and applied a single highlight to his coat.

This is the figure basecoated...

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/Showcase_Ireland/000washtests001.jpg)

I then applied the 'mud' wash overall and this is the effect while the wash was still wet...

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/Showcase_Ireland/000washtests003.jpg)

Painted the hair grey and used the black wash over it and painted the flesh with Vallejo Dark Flesh and used the 'Ogryn Flesh' wash. No highlights added...

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/Showcase_Ireland/000washtests.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/Showcase_Ireland/000washtests005.jpg)

For a grand total of about ten minutes (not including drying time) work Im pretty pleased with it. Aint gonna win any awards but it sure as hell is gonna make painting 200 Confederates a hell of alot quicker.

Really like how the flesh has worked out.

Overall... Not a bad result... Will move onto some more test pieces this week.
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: joroas on 14 July 2008, 12:15:09 AM
I have lots to do and not much tim, this looks a great way to paint, at the moment I am drybrushing over a black undercoat...........
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Geudens on 14 July 2008, 10:18:16 AM
I received the wash "set" two weeks ago now; the "mud"  pot is nearly empty: it is the one I use most (and I guess I won't be alone in that...).

Rudi
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Jase on 14 July 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Definitely good stuff.

I bought the whole package, but I only use Devlan Mud, Badab Black and Ogryn Flesh. Great to do some shading before applying highlights.
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Rhoderic on 14 July 2008, 07:08:55 PM
I haven't been following GW developments recently. Are these some kind of newly developed washes that behave better than the old ones, or are they just same as the old ones but with new names?
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 15 July 2008, 09:24:09 AM
They are much better than the old inks!


They appear to be a totally new product. They dry matt, fill crevices fully, don't "pool" on flat surfaces and give graduated shading. Absolutely wonderful, IMO.

If like Joroas and many others, you have a large amount of figures and little time, they are pretty well essential. They work much like "magic dip" but are more subtle and have the advantage that you have several colours, which can be combined for even better shading effects.

I've used them for ACW Rebs,  khaki-clad British and Beja tribesmen and they work wonderfully well. You would need to spend more time on characters etc, but isn't that always the case?

The only downside is that being GW products, they are, of course,hideously expensive.  >:(

It's pain worth suffering, though  lol
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Geudens on 15 July 2008, 03:43:19 PM
They are much better than the old inks!

Not exactly: if you use'm as proper "washes", they are indeed much better than (old) (thinned down) inks.  However, if you want to "ink in" colour, these new washes will not work.  So anybody using GW ink to "colour", hurry to your local shop before they sell out (I did...).

Rudi
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 15 July 2008, 03:57:20 PM
That's fair enough  :)

I suppose it depends on your painting style. I like to block in the base colour, use the washes for shading and then just a little highlighting, or re-touching of the original colour where needed.

Even so, I've seen the local GW staff's latest models just using the new washes and they get exactly the same [if not better] results than with the old inks.

Also, there are other "old-school" inks out there [Colour Party do some IIRC] that IMO are just as good and of course cheaper, than the old GW version.

Of course, we all have our own ideas and preferences, so really no-one is wrong or right  :D
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Geudens on 15 July 2008, 05:40:06 PM
Also, there are other "old-school" inks out there [Colour Party do some IIRC] that IMO are just as good and of course cheaper, than the old GW version.
Of course, we all have our own ideas and preferences, so really no-one is wrong or right  :D

In my fastpaint system, I use inks often to replace paints.  Therefore, I have probably half a dozen "brown" inks for different shades and the (now old) GW ones were very well suited.

Rudi
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: The Black Rider on 19 July 2008, 01:35:20 PM
I've been using these recently. I feel that i'm perhaps using them wrong tho!

Anyone got any tips on using washes? ???
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: Jase on 19 July 2008, 11:02:43 PM
What do you mean, using them wrongly? Just splash them on it and there you go :)

Although, I have to admit I used to paint the base colour on and then use the wash, then do the highlights. Now I paint everything on it, highlights and all and then use the wash to soften the sharp contrasts between the different layers. I found that that works much better.

I'll show a picture tomorrow to show what I mean.
Title: Re: GW Washes - A quick Test
Post by: The Black Rider on 19 July 2008, 11:43:48 PM
thanks. I just get a very "dirty look" not really shades and any highlight I put on top seems a bit too bright!