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Title: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 12:42:18 PM
This probably sounds like a very odd question, and if it doesn't make sense, please ask and I'll try to elaborate.

Can anyone suggest a range of undead that wouldn't look too out of place with "normal" Dark Age Viking/Saxon minis? What I'm mostly thinking in terms of armour and weapons being "real world-ish" if that makes sense?

Any ideas, folks?

Thanks in advance,

M
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Diakon on 11 May 2014, 12:57:12 PM
http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/product/category=8945908&id=35150233 (http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/product/category=8945908&id=35150233)

These Draugr by Fenris games might do the trick. I like them.
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: YPU on 11 May 2014, 01:11:50 PM
I found that the mantic zombies have so little semblance of clothes left they easily fit in most historic periods. They are however very much zombies and turning them into something else takes work. (mine are now hoplites, very fun conversion to do)
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 02:06:56 PM
http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/product/category=8945908&id=35150233 (http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/product/category=8945908&id=35150233)

These Draugr by Fenris games might do the trick. I like them.

You're right - quite lovely. I would have to say they're a bit dear for me, but I'm notoriously cheap lol
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 02:10:11 PM
I found that the mantic zombies have so little semblance of clothes left they easily fit in most historic periods. They are however very much zombies and turning them into something else takes work. (mine are now hoplites, very fun conversion to do)

Nice idea. I'll look into that, and it's a good way to use up the spares from various GB pack!
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Diakon on 11 May 2014, 04:12:17 PM
You're right - quite lovely. I would have to say they're a bit dear for me, but I'm notoriously cheap lol

The exact reason I don't have them myself.  :D
Hoping someone might buy them for me as a gift at some point. Been dropping a few hints with my girlfriend in run up to my birthday in August.  lol
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mason on 11 May 2014, 04:15:04 PM
Funny that you should post this now as I was talking to Legionnaire Bert about just this subject earlier.
We decided that adding some undead parts to the various Gripping Beast plastics that we already have is the way to go.
An appropriate earthy paintjob should do the trick.
 :D

Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 04:50:43 PM
The exact reason I don't have them myself.  :D
Hoping someone might buy them for me as a gift at some point. Been dropping a few hints with my girlfriend in run up to my birthday in August.  lol

Subtlety will get you nowhere lol
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 04:57:24 PM
I found that the mantic zombies have so little semblance of clothes left they easily fit in most historic periods. They are however very much zombies and turning them into something else takes work. (mine are now hoplites, very fun conversion to do)

I had another look - what do you reckon to the ghouls as an alternative? I wonder because they come as a pack of 20 and I don't know that I need 40 of the wretched things!
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: YPU on 11 May 2014, 05:03:09 PM
The ghouls do wear a bit more clothes, tough still pretty much in tatters they are somewhat recognizable as shirts and kilt like contraptions. They also have rather thick wraps of cloth around their waist. All of that might still work though.
The models have, for some reason, tiny nails modelled on, like they nailed them into themselves. These are however easily removed.

The ghouls come 2 pair of legs and 2 torsos to a sprue, with 3 heads I believe. The zombies are 3 legs and 3 bodies with separate arms on a few so they offer a lot more variety.

The two sets are interchangeable and compatible. (same joints) and these days pretty universal as the are considered some of the "best" undead at their price. You might be able to get a few sprues of each from the bazaar and get the most combinations and bits out of it. I might actually have a few zombie sprues left over myself if your interested.  :D
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Vermis on 11 May 2014, 08:07:32 PM
You're right - quite lovely. I would have to say they're a bit dear for me, but I'm notoriously cheap lol

Hmm.

Maybe a bit cheaper when they're released and you can get 'em without extra resin bases and gubbins? :?
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 11 May 2014, 08:17:59 PM
What have I missed here, since several persons seem to be thinking of undead Vikings/Saxons at the same time?

I'm interested too, but merely because of my long desire for playing some Age of Blood (where mythic elements like the draugr are a possible add-on to the historical roaming and pillaging).
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Lowtardog on 11 May 2014, 08:22:27 PM
My mantic ghouls and zombies with gripping beast heads and GW skellie arms, work ok but havent finished them, still on the plastic pile. ;D

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/Lowtardog/CIMG2264.jpg)
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 11 May 2014, 08:24:01 PM
The plot thickens...  ???
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 08:24:20 PM
What have I missed here, since several persons seem to be thinking of undead Vikings/Saxons at the same time?

I'm interested too, but merely because of my long desire for playing some Age of Blood (where mythic elements like the draugr are a possible add-on to the historical roaming and pillaging).

I know what you mean. It's an odd sort of coincidence. For me, it's because the wall between the historic Dark Ages and the mythic bit (including Middle Earth) is very thin indeed where gaming is concerned! lol
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 11 May 2014, 08:27:22 PM
My mantic ghouls and zombies with gripping beast heads and GW skellie arms, work ok but havent finished them, still on the plastic pile. ;D

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/Lowtardog/CIMG2264.jpg)

This is what I'm talking about (or very nearly!) :-*
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 11 May 2014, 08:34:20 PM
I actually think it should be possible to mix in bits and pieces of the odd plastic skeleton, too.  :)
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Vermis on 11 May 2014, 09:37:44 PM
What have I missed here, since several persons seem to be thinking of undead Vikings/Saxons at the same time?

Been looking for possible wildlings and wights (which would be mostly undead wildlings) but nothing really fit the descriptions in the books, and Fenris' draugr made me cave in to the fantasy-viking look. Though Silent Invader's wips are making me think twice.

I hoped to mix and match plastic kits too. Mantic's zombies and ghouls with something else. If vikings, GBP would be the obvious choice. Though putting those and their saxons together for mass battles gave me the heeby-jeebies about 'em. But again, Lowtar's conversions are making me think twice.
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 12 May 2014, 10:26:55 AM
but nothing really fit the descriptions in the books,

What books  ???
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: white knight on 12 May 2014, 12:40:53 PM
I think Redzed did some mixing bits from Mantic (ghouls or zombies), Gripping Beast and Conquest normans, that looked amazing.

(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/resize.php?img=/images/0.img.1305037481Lord-Skeg-01.jpg&h=1000&w=1000)

More here:
http://www.displacedminiatures.com/redzed/gallery/2797/ (http://www.displacedminiatures.com/redzed/gallery/2797/)
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on 12 May 2014, 12:49:55 PM
What books  ???
I'd guess the Game of Thrones/Song of Fire and Ice books?
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Vermis on 12 May 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Oops. Yeah. Those books. lol
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Sangennaru on 12 May 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Impressive work by redzed! O.O
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 12 May 2014, 03:56:46 PM
I'd guess the Game of Thrones/Song of Fire and Ice books?

Oops. Yeah. Those books. lol

I was kinda guessing it might be, but Vikings/Saxons didn't quite settle with me on that thought  lol

I guess I'm probably the only guy on this forum that didn't read those (I've given up watching the show, too much conversation, too little action for my tastes)?
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Timbor on 12 May 2014, 04:27:48 PM
The books have even more conversation, IMO, but are a very satisfying read. To me the books have more plot/counterplot and character development rather than actual battles and action scenes.  The storyline is excellent if you have the patience and time.
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Vermis on 12 May 2014, 04:30:10 PM
I was kinda guessing it might be, but Vikings/Saxons didn't quite settle with me on that thought  lol

Same here, TBH, but the mini choices are a little restricted. :)

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I've given up watching the show

I've recorded every aired episode of the current season, all unwatched bar the first. I guess I should watch 'em, but at the mo its something I can't be bothered to do and I'd have to psyche myself up for it. That's not quite right.

The books have enough in them to keep you rushing through the first few volumes, but it slows to a near-crawl as people just seem to meander about. I think that's not helped by the fact that the chapters are split between key characters' viewpoints and GRRM just keeps piling on new ones. So you could read one e.g. Jon Snow chapter, be gripped by the events, and only get one or two more Jon Snow chapters in the rest of the book. And there are other factors that create that effect.

I'd still recommend them though; but then I'm the guy who can't understand why people find LotR slow and boring. :) (They know you can just skip over the songs, right?)
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Argonor on 12 May 2014, 04:34:14 PM
I'd still recommend them though; but then I'm the guy who can't understand why people find LotR slow and boring. :) (They know you can just skip over the songs, right?)

I'm not part of that crowd; I find that most of the stuff some find boring just fires up my imagination.
Title: Re: Viking/Saxon Undead
Post by: Mitch K on 12 May 2014, 06:54:33 PM
I've missed Games of Thrones all together. There's enough undead in LoTR and Norse myth without having to cast my net any wider. As for these undead, they'll make a nice random unit to bother BOTH sides of any battle. Damn, I need an evil laugh icon!!!