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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Elbows on 12 May 2014, 09:33:04 AM
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PURPOSE OF THREAD:
As you all may remember I started an expensive 1/200 scale Robotech/Macross project some time ago. Unfortunately, shortly thereafter Palladium launched their comprehensive Kickstarter program which promised a more flushed out model line, albeit in 1/285th (original Battletech scale).
I put the Macross project on hold, although the rules ended up becoming the basis for my Old West game, Shoot N' Skedaddle.
With the delayed (and unfortunately not-too-promising-looking) Kickstarter delivery pending I figured I'd like to start a big Robotech/Macross thread for Lead Adventure gamers. I'd like this to serve as an intro for non-Robotech gamers and a resource for those who are awaiting the Kickstarter or may buy into the Battlecry Robotech game in the future. Personally I'll be using the figures to complete my original Macross project - though if Palladium's game shows any promise I wouldn't hesitate to have my models serve double-duty.
BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF ROBOTECH:
Robotech the animated series was a US adaptation of a series of three Japanese anime cartoons in the early 1980's. While its closest relative is the Macross brand, the Robotech animated series consisted of three separate sections, namely: Macross, Southern Cross, and New Generation. The series features a total of 85 episodes. Since the series were dubbed for American audiences the importers combined three unrelated series, and promoted it as the same world, with each series representing a 15-20 year gap (to explain the change in mecha/characters etc.).
An effort was made to produce a fourth series, referred to as The Sentinels, but it never amounted to more than an hour and half long premiere episode - though this was flushed out by fan fiction, novels, and role-playing games later.
THE MACROSS SAGA:
Far and away the most popular era of Robotech is the original Macross Saga - consisting of the first 36 episodes. While the animation has aged the story telling is still excellent. For its time, Robotech was a rather "adult" cartoon, featuring violence, romance, sexual innuendos, the death of characters and most importantly a contiguous story line.
***Spoiler Alert***
Macross Saga introduces the world in 1999, albeit portrayed as rather futuristic, in the throes of a world war. A "comet" strikes a small island known as Macross Island in the South Pacific. Hidden from the world media, the comet is discovered to be a wayward spacecraft which has crash landed. The ship possesses advanced technology and most confusingly is scaled for creatures many times the size of a human. The ship is empty. The international community agrees to a cease fire as the top minds in the world scour over the huge space-craft (measuring nearly half a mile in length). Eventually a decision is made to repair and refit the ship, using technology discovered inside the vessel itself. Unbeknownst to the world though, other information is acquired and plans are set in motion to make use of it.
Fast forward 10 years to 2009. The ship, christened SDF-1 (Super Dimensional Fortress 1) is preparing for its maiden voyage. Amid the festivities it's defenses activate autonomously, firing its main cannon into space without warning. It is at this point we are introduced to the Zentraedi (See below). A large Zentraedi fleet which has been scouring the universe looking for the errant ship arrive in near Earth orbit. Initial scouting forces engage the Robotech Defense Force (or UN Spacy). It is revealed that top secret military scientists determined the ship must have belonged to human-esque creatures up to 45-50' tall, so gigantic robots were created to battle them on an equal footing. We are introduced to Veritech Fighters (Valkyries), and Destroids (all explained below). The series launches us into several years worth of battling as the Earth fights for survival against a limitless alien horde.
The Super Dimensional Fortress 1 (SDF-1)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/SDF13_zps517fea2f.png)
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Members are encouraged to post up photos, resources, links, videos, gaming projects and anything Robotech/Macross related (please identify if you're posting Macross* stuff so that newcomers won't confuse the two series)
*Macross is the name of one of the Japanese series which most closely mirrors Robotech (though Macross features several subsequent series/movies. The story lines are quite different though original animation and the general "transforming robots" theme is similar.
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THE ZENTRAEDI
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediEmblem_zpsd3a5290b.png)
Zentraedi Emblem
In the Robotech animated series, the Zentraedi are a race of clone warriors, produced by a humanoid like race of beings referred to as the Robotech Masters (Robotech = term used to describe the advanced technology of this race). While the Robotech Masters themselves are human in size, the Zentraedi have been created for war and the rigors of space exploration. Combating alien races, they have been scaled up to nearly 10x the size of a normal human being – ranging from around 35-55’ in height. This fact was discovered while scientists explored the remnants of the alien spacecraft (SDF-1) and this is why UN Spacy mecha were developed to counter the Zentraedi threat.
Zentraedi are produced in cloning chambers, and do not reproduce sexually (though they have functioning reproductive organs/wombs etc.). Clones are produced predominantly in male form, but females are present as well (they appear to be limited to an officer caste and elite fighting units consisting entirely of female pilots). Initially females and males conduct business completely devoid of emotion or attraction.
Various castes seem to exist. While basic infantry soldiers and mecha pilots are relatively simple minded, officer caste clones are very intelligent, capable of standard strategic thinking. Due to their lack of emotion/relationship experience the Zentraedi officers and soldiers are often surprised or confounded by human actions/strategies.
Humans are referred to as “Micronians” by the Zentraedi and are studied as if a class of sub-species or an animal. The overly pragmatic approach to all things war, and the lack of non-warring society forces Zentraedi tacticians to evaluate every single human activity as a war-making practice. Entertainment, recreation, media, protests etc. are all seen as some form of tactic/strategy in the Micronian arsenal.
MECHA
Zentraedi mecha is exactly what you’d expect for an infinitely large clone army: cheap, effective and lightly armored. The primary fighting mecha of the Zentraedi is the Regult pod and its variants. A standard aviation fighter, the Gnerl is also common. These are backed up by the elite units of power armour, both male and female versions. These will be detailed in later posts.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/RegultSoldierBW_zps0d742fda.png)
A Zentraedi Regult Mecha
SHIPS
The Zentraedi fleet is beyond measure, numbering into the millions of space craft. There is a singular leader of the Zentraedi military named Dolza who resides in a gigantic planet-sized main craft. Fleets consist of a number of type of war ships all armed to the teeth with vast fleets of mecha, and missiles/beam weapons. These will likewise be detailed later.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NupetietVergnitz_zpsc18b1746.png)
A Zentraedi fleet flagship.
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UN SPACY
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyLogo_zps38c9141f.png)
UN Spacy Logo
UN Spacy is the military wing of the United Earth Government, responsible for the safety of the Earth population against the Zentraedi threat. While various elements of UN Spacy exist on Earth, the animated series concentrates on the unfortunate crew/squadrons of the SDF-1 in its tumultuous adventures through near-Earth space and beyond.
MECHA
UN Spacy scientists and designers developed a number of Zentraedi-scaled mecha to combat the impending threat when the SDF-1 was determined to have been designed/operated by “giants” by human standards.
The primary fighting mecha of UN Spacy is the Veritech fighter (or Valkyrie in Macross). The Veritech fighter is a transformable mecha which can operated in one of three modes: Fighter mode (in this mode the mecha is essentially a giant fighter aircraft), Guardian mode (this represents half-plane/half-humanoid robot), and Battloid mode (in this mode the mecha becomes a humanoid fighting robot – approximately 40-45’ tall). Veritech variants will be detailed in later posts.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1AGroup_zpsd908aab9.png)
A Veritech mecha in all three modes.
The second line of defense is a group of mecha designs referred to as Destroids. These are walking tanks/artillery mecha which serve predominantly in a defensive role, bolstering the SDF-1’s defenses, and protecting outposts, bases, etc. Far slower, unable to fly (limited flight is possible in space), but heavily armored, the Destroids are the unglamorous “grunts” of the UN Spacy forces. The full line of Destroids will be detailed later.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Defender_zps3675a850.png)
A Defender destroid.
UN Spacy forces are bolstered by a number of far more conventional vehicles (fighter aircraft, drones, helicopters, missile batteries etc.).
SHIPS
In the opening attack on Earth all of the current UEG space craft were destroyed. By the end of the opening hostilities only the SDF-1 could be counted as fighting capable space craft. For the duration of the animated series the SDF-1 fights by itself, its crew and population tirelessly battered by the pursuit of the Zentraedi fleet. UN Spacy/UEG space craft will be detailed later.
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ROBOTECH RESOURCES:
http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/sdfmacross-index.html
Macross Index
This source has a ton of info and excellent pictures. I actually spent a long time gathering all of my pictures/art only to find most of them carefully catalogued here! I'll be providing a quicker/easier "Robotech for dummies" approach in this thread.
www.dafont.com
Font Website w/ Various Robotech Fonts
I use this site for a lot of design work, and luckily dafont currently has at least three Robotech related fonts under their Sci-Fi section. The fonts are free and install super easy.
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ROBOTECH DESIGNS...All over the place...
Yes, people who are not familiar with Robotech may find themselves looking at various Robotech mecha with a certain familiarity.
TRANSFORMERS
While not particularly similar in the cartoons themselves, many of the Transformer toys were borrowed from existing Robotech toys to cut costs. You'll notice a variety of older Autobots and Decepticons are actually re-badged Robotech Veritech/Valkyrie models.
(http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/1/transformers-g1-0109_1191460050.jpg)
This 1985 "Skyfire" Autobot is nothing more than a VF-1S Super Veritech toy with autobot stickers on it.
BATTLETECH
FASA corporation originally had the rights to use various Japanese anime designs in their original run of Battletech mechs. In fact it's very noticeable that the Robotech/Dougram/VOTOMS mechs were far and away the most popular and iconic Battletech mechs. They continue to enjoy a fan base of the "Unseen" mechs. Note that Veritechs in guardian mode were even used as "LAMs" or Land-Air Mechs.
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9226/archercombo.jpg)
Here you see a Spartan Destroid which was the basis for the Archer...and you see the "meh" new version after the agreement expired.
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8878/maraudercombo.jpg)
The Glaug officer's battle pod became the Marauder...again bastardized when re-designed later.
The very cover of Battletech books and games were covered with Robotech designs (something I didn't quite mind of course).
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wicFpYV5N_Q/US9MI89XdqI/AAAAAAAAJxo/W2VUag0pdp4/s1600/battletech.jpg)
You see here the "Warhammer" which is nothing more than a Tomahawk Destroid - it even features the UN Spacy logo on its leg!
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/38/battlemastercombo.jpg)
Other anime series such as Dougram were responsible for designing a slew of other very popular mechs as well...
Robotech designs had a lot of influence all over the place, and that's why it's not uncommon for people to recognize the fairly iconic shapes/designs.
BATTLETECH/ROBOTECH MECHS (off the top of my head...)
Stinger = VF-1A
Wasp = VF-1S
Archer = Spartan
Longbow = Phalanx
Rifleman = Defender
Crusader = Armored Veritech
Phoenix Hawk = Super Veritech
Marauder = Zentraedi Glaug
Ostsol/Ostscout etc = Vaguely related to the Regult Pod (they added arms, etc.)
Various LAMS = Veritechs in Guardian mode.
Warhammer = Tomahawk
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AWESOME THREAD :-* :-* :-* :-*
And the timing is perfect since I just bought Samurai Robots Battle Royale which is perfect for Macross gaming. And since you are the Macross-guru here I am a happy gamer!
Btw, will you "revive" your old thread again with pictures? It's such a shame that all of the photobucket pictures are gone.
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Great job in this one!
Will follow it interest :)
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Gonna follow this one :D
cheers
James
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THE VERITECH
In Robotech, the American animated series the primary human (micronian) fighting mecha is the Veritech transformable fighter. In Macross stuff in Japan etc. it is referred to as a Valkyrie. I’ve watched the animated series several times and will do so again shortly – but I don’t believe you ever hear them referred to as Valkyries in the American version of the show. They are commonly called simply “Veritech fighters” etc.
In UN Spacy in the animated series most squadrons are assigned a colour to designate squadron (Vermillion, Green, Gold etc.). However other squadrons exist such as Roy Fokker’s Skull Squadron etc.
TYPES
The Veritech is shown in four primary models during the animate series: VF-1A, VF-1J, VF-1S and VT-1D (or VF-1D). While the later released fluff and canon suggest these models might differ in engine power etc…for the most part they appear to have nearly identical capabilities. The difference is noted predominantly in the head variations, and the D model has a twin-seat cockpit as it is the designated training model.
VF-1A: Single lens head with a single cannon. This is the basic version for most pilots in UN Spacy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1ADarkBattloid_zps15e411cb.png)
VF-1J: Wide single lens head with twin cannons. This is for flight leaders, or squadron leaders.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JRickHunter_zpsff5682f0.png)
VF-1S: This is only seen in use by Roy Fokker though later canon suggests several of them exist. This is the poster-child for more Robotech materials in the US. A wide green visor and four cannons on the head. Fluff states these models are reserved for the commanding officers of a carrier wing etc.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1SBattloid_zps079bc3b9.png)
VT-1D/VF-1D: The D model features twin wide lenses on the head and two independently operated cannons. In the show this is the first Veritech that the main character (Rick Hunter) finds himself in. It is painted in standard UN Spacy beige but features large splashes of safety orange (not unlike Navy training planes which feature the same).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VT1DBattloid_zps4952cb0f.png)
*Note that in this picture the Veritech has its Gu-11 gun pod stored on pylons on the outer arm. This allows a Battloid mode Veritech to use both hands without releasing his weapon – in the animated series the Gu-11 is also shown with a retractable sling.
ADDITIONAL MODULES
Two types of upgraded modules are shown late in the Macross Saga: the “Super” (referred to as a Fast Pack in Macross materials) model, and a heavily Armored module. Both of these will be covered in later posts. They are additional fitted components which can be added to any of the standard variants of the Veritech fighter. In addition a ELINT (Electronic Intelligence) model exists in the canon/fluff and has been introduced by Palladium Games for their miniature game. This is an electronic warfare/AWACs style package.
MODES
A Veritech fighter may operate in one of three modes: Fighter, Guardian, and Battloid (Fighter, Gerwalk, and Battroid in Macross circles).
Fighter Mode: In fighter mode the Veritech resembles a common fighter aircraft. This mode allows for the most speed, and is preferred for dogfighting in an atmosphere and in space. All weapons are available in the this mode.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JFighter2_zps5a00baf6.png)
Guardian Mode: In guardian mode the Veritech resembles a half humanoid robot/half fighter aircraft. While it retains flight capability, it’s primary engines are in the feet, and it loses much of its top speed. This allows the pilot to move the Veritech like a fighter while being more agile in close confines. It also allows the use of the Veritech hands. All weapons are available in this mode.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JGuardian_zps7bc22525.png)
Battloid Mode: In battloid mode the Veritech resembles a large humanoid robot. This design was made to allow a Veritech pilot to battle the 50’+ tall Zentraedi on even terms. This mode allows mobility in cities and difficult terrain, and allows the Veritech pilot to fight in melee combat or perform operations using its arms/hands. The primary weapon in this mode is normally the Gu-11 gun pod.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1ABattloid_zpsb98a0e36.png)
ARMAMENT
The Veritech mecha has a wide arsenal of weapons. On a standard Veritech they consist of the following:
1) Pair of nose mounted cannons (these appear to be beam weapons in the show)
2) 1-4 head mounted cannons (also beam weapons)
3) A Gu-11 55mm three-barreled gun pod.
4) Missiles (ranging from light/medium/heavy)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VeritechMissile_zps0a595ad9.png)
Standard Veritech light/medium missiles.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/GU11GunPod_zps040b892b.png)
Standard issue Gu-11 gun pod – features three 55mm barrels, and feeds from the rear cylinder. It is shown to have a retractable sling for carriage in battloid mode when needed.
ADDITIONAL FEATURES
The Veritech mecha includes a number of interesting features. The cockpit section detaches for rescue operations (this is likely fitted with a parachute/floats if landing in water). The Veritechs feature small mechanical arms which allow minute repair/rescue work. The cockpits feature three display screens (not unlike current 4th and 5th generation fighter aircraft currently in service). As shown above, the Gu-11 gun pod (or cockpit section) can be attached to the arm of a Veritech. This allows easy retrieval of a Veritech pilot if downed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VFDetachCockpitSketch_zpsa4aaa227.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VFCockpitSketch_zps1f41be89.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VFHandsSketch_zps9c8b6b2c.png)
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VERITECH MODULES
This post will quickly cover the two main (and one alternate) Veritech modules seen in the animated series, and most commonly found in games/models.
THE “SUPER” VERITECH
The Super Veritech is a standard Veritech with added boosters and missiles. This vastly increases the top speed and firepower of the mecha, and allows a Veritech to break orbit without the aid of a booster pod*. In the show, the booster pods on the top/rear of the Veritech are shown firing missiles as well. Note that when in fighter mode a Veritech with the additional boosters keeps its vertical stabilizers folded/stored so they’re not immediately destroyed by the blast.
In the Macross world these Super Veritechs are commonly called “Fast Packs” and feature additional armaments, like twin-cannons etc.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JSuperFighter_zpsb3bcf132.png)
In Fighter Mode (note: folded stabilizers)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JSuperGuardian_zps4b0718a4.png)
In Guardian Mode.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1ASuperBattloid_zps49041f82.png)
In Battloid Mode.
Note that the Super modification can be applied to any normal Veritech regardless of model. The module can be ejected at will by the pilot.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VFSuperSketch_zpsa0b60e64.png)
*Booster Pod: A normal Veritech fighter cannot break out of orbit on its own power. If not using a Super module a large Booster rocket can be added to the Veritech. This is launched from a large wheeled platform vehicle.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VeritechBooster_zps644dca84.png)
Veritech Booster.
THE “ARMORED” VERITECH
Another module seen in the animated series is what is commonly referred to as the “Armor Pack” or Armored Veritech. This module introduces a huge amount of additional armor, and a bevy of additional missiles (mostly short range missiles). The Armored Veritech has one major caveat – when installed the Veritech may not change mode unless it jettisons the module. Note that the Armored Veritech features the same boosters – and may fly in Space (unknown if it can fly in an atmosphere).
It’s my guess this module would be best suited as a type of boarding party mecha --- entering a hostile alien ship in battloid mode, armed to the teeth.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JArmored_zps594c5eca.png)
Again, the Armored module can be applied to any standard Veritech (including the trainer D models etc.). Slow, heavy, but tons of firepower.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VF1JArmoredSketch_zpse745a380.png)
Some sketchwork showing the various missile pods installed (note that in this mode the boosters don’t show the “missile tubes” located at the top of the boosters…it’s possible the Armored Veritech does not benefit from these).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VFArmoredSketch_zps167724e4.png)
A picture showing a Veritech jettisoning its Armored module --- allowing it to revert to normal Veritech function (ie.: get the hell out of Dodge!)
THE VE-1 ELINTSEEKER
While not a proper Robotech Veritech (it may be seen in the back of some giant fight scenes or something – but is never a featured mecha or prominently displayed), the VE-1 model of the Valkyrie/Veritech is an electronic warfare model. It likely combines both advanced early warning radar and air combat control functions with jamming and destruction of enemy radar/facilities. In most model kits (where it is most prolific) it’s seen completely unarmed (perhaps still lasers in the nose?).
It is often displayed with large “eye” imagery obviously hinting at its reconnaissance capabilities. It features a type of booster pack, but lacks the missile firing sections. A large rotating radar dish is present, and various deployable antenna systems.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VE1Fighter_zps71d44ea3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VE1Battloid_zps77d20481.png)
It features a special head as well – a large lens which looks like it includes a high magnification capability.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VE1Model2_zps12576d18.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VE1Model1_zps99c6cd92.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/VE1Model5_zpsad7676a2.jpg)
Palladium Games is including a reconnaissance version of the Veritech in their game – unsure what the nomenclature is, or the model features.
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Great resource. I am patiently waiting for my KS stuff to arrive (which is not too hard since I had to wait almost 30yrs for this game), but I am planning on a big local big push once my very large KS order arrives.
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BUMP: I went through and revamped all of the posts so far...trying to make it a bit more comprehensive. Will add more as I continue.
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This always was a bit of a blank spot in my geeky knowledge, thanks for brining me up to speed! Very much looking forwards to your next posts.
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UN SPACY DESTROIDS
The second line of primarily defensive mecha used by UN Spacy are referred to as Destroids. They are, essentially, walking artillery batteries. Non-transformable and slow by comparison, they add firepower to the SDF-1 (the ship has mounted bays which allow Destroids to turn out on the deck when needed). Destroids are the non-glamorous artillery/air defense mecha. While being slow they do mount considerable amounts of firepower (far more than the average Veritech).
The keen eyed viewer will notice that three of the Destroids share a "chassis" or the same legs with various modules mounted on the upper torso. According to the fluff this was the primary chosen design. The Spartan and Monster represent other projects (in fact the Spartan was rumored to be an alternate design concept which was competing for the Destroid project).
ADR-04 Mk.X Defender
The Defender is an air defense Destroid. It features four auto-cannon barrels, fed from large internal magazines mounted in the shoulders. It's likely these are 25-50mm in size (think of a current Tunguska/Shilka etc.). It's quite obvious that the top dish above the shoulders is likely a radar, allowing the Defender to locate incoming enemy mecha before they're in visual range.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Defender_zps9989cc65.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/DefenderSketch3_zps34e4bbfb.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/DefenderSketch2_zps74dcb83d.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/DefenderSketch_zps68fdf1f7.png)
SDR-04 Mk.XII Phalanx
The Phalanx is a near twin to the Defender, mounted on the same chassis - but featuring two large missile drums in place of the auto-cannons. It doesn't feature a noticeable radar but it is possible the radar is mounted in the barrel-like chest of the mecha (similar to nose mounted radar in fighter aircraft). The head represents flood lights, but could also house a forward looking infrared detection system. In the animated series it is shown with around a dozen missiles per pod - unknown how light/heavy the missiles are. They must pack a punch as Phalanxes are seen doing serious damage in one of the final episodes of the series.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Phalanx_zps003f89e0.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Phalanx2_zps42b4187e.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/PhalanxSketch2_zps0a5556a0.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/PhalanxSketch_zps8c93ad61.png)
MBR-04 Mk.VI Tomahawk
One of the most popular and iconic destroids is the Tomahawk model (likely due to its awesome looks, and its presence in Battletech lore). It features a huge bevy of weapons, covering all ranges and needs. The twin arms are shown as both beam cannons and ballistic weapons in the animated series (in several shots they're shown with muzzle flashes like a normal cannon, instead of beams...?). They're seen so rarely it's anybody's guess...though linework pictures do not show ammunition feeds (and it seems unlikely ammo belts would feed down through the elbow joints. Also notice the arms feature "vents" for cooling...but ports out the back for blast? Confusing!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Tomahawk_zps037ff78e.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/TomahawkSketch2_zps2749c76f.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/TomahawkSketch_zpsa96e1456.png)
HWR-00 Mk. II Monster
Another iconic favourite for modellers is the gigantic "Monster" destroid. This Destroid outweighs the others by 4-5x, and is simply massive. It's without question a long range artillery support Destroid. It is shown being slow and cumbersome (and then oddly running in one episode...) so we'll assume she's a pretty slow beast. The cannons up top are shown to fire normal artillery rounds, and the arms are shown firing as beam weapons (not missile launchers as listed in the Palladium Games RPG). It features a crew of at least three (shown in one shot late in the series).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Monster_zps7a58e959.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/MonsterSketch3_zps7c047b2b.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/MonsterSketch_zps82850142.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/MonsterSketch2_zps19b11842.png)
MBR-07 Mk. II Spartan
The Spartan is the one standard sized Destroid which does not share design features with the others (upper torso does share some weapon components). Note the "04" designation on other Destroids is replaced with an "07" designation. The Spartan was rumored to be a competitive contract when the Destroid request for proposals was put out. It features hands unlike any other Destroid and is comparatively lightly armed - featuring a battery of missiles and small guns. It can however use a Gu-11 gunpod from the Veritech and is seen with a mecha-sized baton. It proved useful in police work after the Zentraedi refuges ended up on Earth. Having hands makes this a pretty handy Destroid compared to many others.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Spartan_zpsec0dc2bf.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/SpartanBaton_zps48db9c68.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/SpartanSketch2_zpsfc5e13dc.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/SpartanSketch_zps16d8184d.png)
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OTHER UN SPACY CRAFT
There a handful of additional UN Spacy craft which are featured in the animated series - though many of them are lost in the first two episodes and almost none make subsequent appearances.
ARMD Platform
The ARMD Platform or "Armor" series of ships are featured in the first few episodes. I believe all of them (there must be around a dozen) are destroyed in the fighting. It's unknown if the ARMD series were in existence prior to the arrival of the SDF crash landing. During the opening attack the crew of the SDF-1 mentioned losing several "Armor" ships. They likely served as defensive fighter platforms in orbit around the Earth. They are seen firing missiles and beam weapons and launching space craft.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ARMDPlatform_zps61930b0b.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ARMDPlatform2_zpsfe049212.png)
UN Spacy Cruiser
This is a spacecraft which is shown a handful of times and not really mentioned in any detail. I haven't dug up any origins or notes on it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyCruiser_zps2eeb0e3a.png)
The Daedalus and Prometheus
By sheer accident two large aircraft carriers were dragged into space alongside the SDF-1 when it folded. Eventually these carriers were dragged alongside the SDF-1 and attached to it. When the SDF-1 began transforming in battle the Prometheus and Daedalus were used as arms - delivering a devastating Destroid attack called the "Daedalus Maneuver". The pair of carriers are used to house Destroids and Veritechs and other fighting mecha and craft. If separated from the SDF-1 they are incapable of space flight.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Prometheus_zps5b6fe109.png)
The carrier CVS-101 Prometheus
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/PrometheusSketch_zps6132d955.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/PromtheusSketch2_zps8748c855.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Daedelus_zps05fdd69c.png)
The carrier SLV-111 Daedalus
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/DaedalusSketch_zps82526ea6.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/DaedalusSketch2_zpsb563a827.png)
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I vote sticky for this one. :D
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ZENTRAEDI: SOLDIERS
The average Zentraedi clone is the product of a cloning chamber where a small Micronian is used to draw the genetic map for the super-sized end result. This system is later used to change Zentraedi to human size and back. The average Zentraedi soldier is approximately the height of a Veritech in Battloid mode - say around 45'. It is obvious from the animated series that some Zentraedi are much smaller, some a bit larger (perhaps up to 60' in Breetai's case - rather huge). If the animated series is to be believed they are so big that short periods spent in the vacuum of space are possible.
When re-entering from space, Breetair (fleet commander) is seen to say "I am not built as weakly as you..." to one of the bewildered soldiers nearby. This indicates that while the Zentraedi force are all cloned/upscaled they are designed in different castes or for different purposes. Fleet commanders and officers are capable of independent thought, strategy, etc. where the normal soldiers tend to be around the intelligence of an average high school student, maybe less.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediInfantrySketch_zps0b612600.png)
Above shows the standard uniform of a Zentraedi soldier, and the light body armour version. Two versions of body armour exist: light and heavy (though it appears heavy is simply made by adding a few additions to the standard body armour). On several toys this is advertised as "Space suit" so we can guess that the body armour has a limited survival capability in space - thuogh no oxygen packs or similar are seen - so perhaps only a few minutes or so (allowing stranded pilots to be recovered from wreckage?).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/im1301-79-box_zps830251e2.jpg)
This box art shows the "heavier" combat armour. Note the bigger chest piece, enhanced fore-arm armour, and the optional blast visor added to the helmet (seen in the first picture as well).
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ZENTRAEDI: BATTLE PODS (REGULT)
The primary fighting mecha of the Zentraedi forces is the simply designed bi-pedal mecha called the Regult (Reguld in various Japanese forms). The Regult is the chassis upon which several variants are produced, each with its own modified name. The pilots wear light (or heavy) combat armour and sit inside the pod, in a rather scrunched up position, operating the mecha with simple levers and foot controls.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/RegultSketch_zps243631d4.png)
The pilot enters the mecha through a large hatch in the back. The mecha squats down in a crouch when the pilot is entering/exiting. The Regults are also stored onboard ships in the squatted position to reduce space and lower the center of gravity -as well as keeping the Regults ready to accept pilots immediately.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/zentsold_zps55b15522.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/RegultCutawaySketch_zps4a37a531.png)
Mobility
In the animated series the Regult pods (in all forms) are seen flying rather well in space, but incapable of flight in an atmosphere. They can run and perform large leaps (enough to clear buildings). In one episode they're even seen gliding down a hill, though this is a bit unexplained. A Regult is incapable of entering or leaving atmosphere by itself and must rely on a re-entry pod. In several episodes the battlepods are shown "ejecting" their legs and firing upwards on powered jets - a type of ejection seat function? It's unknown how far the pod can travel or how long it's capable of this limited flight.
Regult Types
The Regult appears in four major types frequently throughout the animated series.
Regult
The standard Regult is often referred to as simply a "Battle pod" or a "tactical pod" or indeed a "tactical battle pod" in various fluff. It is armed with two large beam weapons (though one is shown to be multi-barreled in an episode suggesting a gatling/chain gun type weapon?) two smaller beam weapons around the bottom of the pod (possibly for protecting against small targets up close) and a rear cannon which is likely an anti-aircraft weapon, possibly firing on its own. Due to the 45' stature of the pilots, the standard Regult must realistically be 60'+ in height though there seems to be a lot of leeway with the size of Regults in the animated series.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Regult_zps270eebbd.png)
Gluuhaug-Regult
The Gluuhaug model is the "Light Artillery" or "Light Missile" model of the Regult family. The part "Gluu" is used in several Zentraedi forms to indicate "light". Haug must mean artillery or missiles. The Gluuhaug Model replaces the rear gun pod with a pivot mount for two large missile pods. While rockets might be used as well the animated series indicates these are guided missiles (not sure if they're radar or heat or both...).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/GluuhaugRegult_zps7f185148.png)
Serauhaug-Regult
The partner to the light artillery Regult is the heavier artillery model, the Serauhaug. It features similar missile pods but the lighter, short-range missiles are replaced with much larger and heavier missiles - likely capable of long-distance engagements, possibly even anti-ship use. These are shown with varying frequency but it's quite simple to imagine that a single missile from a Serauhaug would be suitable for incapacitating or indeed destroying a Veritech or Destroid with a single shot.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/SerauhaugRegult_zps856b10a5.png)
Quel-Regult
The final version of the Regult is the Quel model, or "Scout". In various vehicles the term "Quel" is used to indicated scouting or reconnaissance work. This is the only unarmed model of the Regult family. Assume a full ECM capability: long range radar, medium range jamming, signals interception, long-range video observation, laser targeting/designation, radar and infrarer detection etc.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QuelRegult_zps55e7a11e.png)
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ZENTRAEDI POWER ARMOUR
In addition to the common Regult line of mecha, the Zentraedi appear in a few other forms of mecha - namely two types of power armour suits. Unlike the Regult which is piloted by standard controls, the following two mecha are worn like large suits of armour...albeit with mecha capabilities.
Nousjadeul-Ger (Male Power Armour)
The two forms of Zentraedi power armour seem to be divided into male and female versions. It is unknown if there is any reason a male could not pilot a female power armour suit and vice versa (physical size notwithstanding). The Nousjadeul-Ger is seen in several episodes of the original Macross series. It does not appear to be nearly as agile as the female power armour version (which definitely appears to be the best all around Zentraedi mecha).
The Nousjadeul-Ger does not appear frequently until very late in the Macross saga - namely after the climactic battle which leads to the re-building of planet earth. The N-G gives the user significant strength, as it is shown picking up and throwing a Veritech mecha in one episode. It's armament include a chest mounted cannon, a shoulder mounted beam cannon (which stows horizontally across the shoulders when not in use), and it is shown with a pistol in a few points during the show.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGer_zpsdc9b76e6.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGer3_zps1755baef.png)
This second paint scheme appears later in the Macross saga and is shown when Breetai's Zentraedi forces have allied with the UN Spacy forces - it's possible this colour scheme is used only by "friendly" Zentraedi - the previous enemy Zentraedi suits are shown in the green/orange scheme above.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGerSketch4_zpsaeab424d.png)
The head/torso pivot to allow the pilot to enter.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGerSketch_zpsab0ebd1c.png)
Two large thrusters in the shoulders and a bank of leg-mounted thrusters - the Nousjadeul-Ger is shown flying in space, but never shown hauling copious amounts of ass like its female counter-part.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGerSketch2_zps09d96cfe.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NousjadeulGerSketch3_zps4783c457.png)
This picture shows that the Nousjadeul-Ger should easily be 60'+, a real freakin' brute.
Queadluun-Rau (Female Power Armour)
The Queadluun-Rau is the female power armour used by the Zentraedi. From simply observation of the show it appears this is a super deadly, super fast, heavily armed mecha. It also appears that female Zentraedi pilots may all be of very high skill level. Females in Zentraedi culture operate on their own vessels (apparently) and do not regularly interact with their male counterparts. It appears they're quite segregated though they work together in combat. Fraternization is not readily apparent.
The Queadluun-Rau is about the same size as the Nousjadeul-Ger. It should be around 60' tall. The Queadluun-Rau features three-barreled cannons in each forearm, two large barrel cannons in the chest and vast missile pods in the hips and shoulders (the Q-R is shown unleashing dozens and dozens of missiles in a single volley --- very small missiles though, likely very short range). The Queadluun-Rau has articulated three-finger hands but they're not shown carrying rifles in the show.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QueadluunRauDark_zpse85c200d.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QueadluunRauAce_zps287591ac.png)
Fictional paint scheme I did up for a game project a while ago.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QueadluunRauSketch2_zps599a92ab.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QueadluunRauSketch_zps96cbc1d5.png)
Note the gigantic thrusters on the back of the Queadluun-Rau ----- it's shown being obnoxiously fast (easily keeping pace with any Veritech mecha. Also note the inset of the tiny missiles.
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OTHER ZENTRAEDI MECHA
The Zentraedi are shown using a few other form of mecha (and standard aircraft). The two covered here are the Glaug (A heavily armed battle pod which appears to be limited to officer use), and the Gnerl (the standard combat aircraft of the Zentraedi forces).
Glaug (Officer Battle Pod)
The Glaug is seen in several episodes - namely piloted by the evil and slightly crazed Khyron (a malcontent Zentraedi military leader). Later it is shown being used by other Zentraedi. It is a bipedal design like the Regult though it is heavily armed, and the pilot sits in a more relaxed position (more similar to how a human sits in a car seat vs. scrunched up like a standard Regult). Standard armament is a beam cannon up top, beam cannon(s) in the arms, and two small defensive beam weapons in the lower snout. It is listed as having missile launchers in some later games by Palladium but I didn't really see any evidence of this. I'll watch the season again and make sure. I also haven't seen sketches etc. that indicate it carries missiles.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Glaug_zps72308dfe.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/GlaugSketch2_zpsa61cd06b.png)
Glaug Eldare (Officer Pod's booster sled)
The Glaug is shown in several episodes using an additional booster sled (which appears to be heavily armed with missiles). It is likely this is used to boost the performance of the Glaug in dogfights (like all Zentraedi mecha it is capable of space flight, but limited ability to fly in an atmosphere). It is also very likely that a Glaug Eldare pod would allow the Glaug to breach or enter orbit without assistance (it is likely this must be transported to/from the surface of a planet like normal Regults). We never see the Glaug enter or leave this Eldare pod, but it's likely it can be jettisoned while in flight or possible ejected while stationary. In the show the Glaug with the Eldare is shown firing around a dozen missiles at a time (located in the sides of the pods).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/GlaugEldare_zpsc76b56cc.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/GlaugEldareSketch_zpscfeea53d.png)
The Gnerl (Fighter)
In addition to the standard line of Regult mecha the Zentraedi make heavy use of a simple, agile, fast, and seemingly deadly fighter aircraft called the Gnerl. It is shown in many episodes and is one of the predominant antagonists in the early episodes. It is armed with a three-barreled cannon and missiles (which launch from the dark slots on the side/rear of the fuselage). It seems to be an equal match for the average Veritech in a dogfight and appears to be able to enter/leave orbit unassisted - so it must have rather capable thrusters.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/Gnerl_zps66ccc7c8.png)
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Sterling Work on this thread. :)
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Bump, simply because Robotech RPG Tactics Kickstarter "should" be shipping Mid-August. I'll believe it when I see it. lol
A picture post of some random UN Spacy vehicles (ground maintenance vehicles, infantry vehicles, civilian fanliner jets etc.)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyTransport1_zps73c95d02.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacySupportVehicles_zpsb3d79d25.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/CivilianFanliner_zpsd69bb88d.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyJeep_zps16ec4ee8.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyLiftTruck_zpse32dd0c9.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyAmbulance_zpsc46de3fd.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/CivilianFanracer_zps4a72ec81.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyAPC_zps3e056da7.png)
And UN Spacy spacecraft and aircraft. You see loads of transport shuttles, helicopters, random aircraft in the show. Sometimes just in the background and occasionally transferring characters. Some can break atmosphere while others can not.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyTunny_zps5002aea0.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyMomsKitchen2_zpsa8c9294e.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyMomsKitchen_zps5d190247.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyStarGoose3_zps25eb51c8.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacySeaSergeant_zpsf30a57a4.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyStarGoose_zpsecc3cd55.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyVFX4_zpsb029c0be.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyAWACS_zps6927c5a6.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyLancer_zpse146edfc.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyComanchero_zpsab461b4a.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyCruiser_zps1a9ea8e1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyCatsEye_zps1f301e91.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyAvenger_zps1048d8d4.png)
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Excellent to see more new stuff 8)
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Well, Palladium and Siembieda did announce they were giving their collective backers on kickstarter the two finger salute and selling the set at Gencon rather than actually shipping product to the backers. Not that I'm surprised as Palladium has about as much integrity as a skeet having a conversation with Fred Missildine on the range.
I fully expect to get my first shipment around December or possibly January 2015. I really feel sorry for the overseas backers as they're really going to get screwed to the wall on shipping dates.
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o_o Very soon I shall buy that Destroid Defender, yes very soon. o_o
Initially I thought this stuff was taken from Battletech. Guess I was wrong.
You also just made me download the Mechwarrior game from Abandonia. Can't wait to play it again, it was a favourite for some time. My favourite mechs from that game were, funnily enough, the Rifleman (Defender), Warhammer (Tomahawk) and Marauder (Glaug). The locust from battletech seems to be quite like some of the Macross stuff too.
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Yep, this is my surprised face: :?
I admit I begrudgingly backed the Kickstarter...I love Robotech (obviously) but Kevin Siembeda and Harmony Gold, Palladium etc. have done nothing short of ignore the franchise for 20 years. They're the sole reason Robotech in America is fading into extinction. Palladium is a crap company, and I've zero respect for Kevin. Thus I was not at all surprised when he said the first few hundred sets or whatever will go to GenCon instead of to the actual backers of the project (who've already been waiting more than what a year and a half?). The guy is a clown.
Unfortunately there is no other reasonable way to game/play Robotech so I had to invest in the KS. I don't even plan on using the game itself.
Beefcake: Unsurprisingly the most popular mechs from Battletech were all what are now referred to as "Unseen" mechs - taken from Robotech, Dougram etc. They formed the basis for Battledroids (the original concept which became Battletech). They were legally acquired images at the time (not sure what went down eventually to end that). But yes the "best" and most popular mechs were all non-FASA/non-Battletech mechs. The in-house designers for Battletech were pretty rough. All of their new stuff is currently boring and uninspired (and why I'll be sticking to the older stuff for my BTech project).
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The guy is a clown.
I know the game needs to gain market penetration quickly upon release, but I can't see a couple hundred "sales" that day making as big a difference as Kevin made it out in his last updates compared to the thousands pre-sold via kickstarter. And honestly, given the delays of this project, there ability to have EXTRA units available for the con was their own responsibility for keeping on time.
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Precisely. You want to take a couple copies and have some built minis, and show it off? Sure, no problem. People will rush home and place a pre-order. You want to have some demo games? Absolutely. But the idea that having stock at GenCon somehow "launches" a game which EVERY Robotech fan has already been made aware of is nonsense. Shame really. But, again...not surprised at all.
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Zentraedi Ships and Craft*
The Zentraedi fleet of warships is huge. When I say huge, think: millions of ships. With the ability to cross the galaxy with FTL travel, there appears to be no limit to the Zentraedi's available resources. While this is never explained or discussed it's safe to assume that vast armies of Zentraedi clones operate on dozens if not hundreds of worlds mining resources for the incredible fleet. The Zentraedi fleet consists of various smaller fleets, and one which is referred to as the "Grand Fleet". This fleet, biggest of all, numbers into the 4-5 million ships range. In common sense terms this all seems a bit silly, as it's unlikely any opposition in space could ever pose a threat to such a number of ships.
However, it is mentioned and explained in the animated series that Zentraedi ships are run by clones, but that no engineers or repair crews exist. The ships and their crews/soldiers are completely expendable. Think Zulu, when the chieftains sacrifice warriors to gauge the firepower of the British soldiers. It's likely that Zentraedi forces operate on the strategy of sheer overwhelming force without any regard to losses. The only reason the Macross saga which follows the SDF-1's exploits is different is that the Zentraedi have a vested interest in not destroying the ship itself.
It is likely that if a ship becomes damaged so heavily it is inoperable the ship is simply abandoned or destroyed. The ships and crew are disposable.
Zentraedi Fleet Headquarters
The Zentraedi fleet headquarters is actually a gigantic planet-sized ship, resembling a large asteroid in some shots. This is home to the command structure of the Zentraedi, including their supreme commander, Dolza. The vast ship/planetoid can house hundreds if not thousands of Zentraedi ships. It's scope is beyond that of normal human understanding. Buried inside the ship is a huge central corridor where ships can move and dock. This ship is only seen sparingly in the animated series, but is the target for the final battle.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediMoonBase_zps6d93a524.png)
The Zentraedi Robotech Factory
Only seen very late in the animated series, the Robotech Factory is a gigantic ship-building factory which is itself a ship (it is capable of FTL travel like other vessels). It's size is beyond unbelievable according to the animated series. The massive flagship of Breetai's fleet is seen entering the factory, appearing as a speck against the world-sized vessel/factory. I'd have to watch the series again to see if they mention multiple Robotech Factories. It is likely that with millions of ships there are several of these factory ships. They make no mention of how fast ships or mecha are produced (battle pods and fighters are produced here too - the factory produces almost every facet of the Zentraedi war machine - it's acceptable to assume cloning chambers etc. as well).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/RobotechFactory_zpsfa633437.gif)
Nupetiet Vergnitz (Flagship)
The Nupetiet Vergnitz is Breetai's flagship. Breetai is the name of the commander of the Zentraedi forces present in the animated series. He'll be discussed later in a post covering "characters". The Nup-Verg is only seen as Breetai's vessel. It is unknown if the ship is one of many flagship-class vessels or if it is a special vessel for Breetai only (unlikely). It is gigantic, larger than the SDF-1 and bristling with all manner of weapons and a huge complement of mecha. There is limited information on most of the Zentraedi ships seen in the series. The Nupetiet Vergnitz is showing moving a large portion of its front section (opening almost) to fire its main cannon.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NupetietVergnitz3_zps3bae47d7.png)
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Zentraedi Picket/Scout Ship - Unnamed
This small vessel is seen in a couple of episodes and shots, namely one where Breetai instructs his fleet commanders to deploy "scout ships". It is likely this is a small fast vessel for scouting or interception. No real details exist that I can find.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediPicket_zps7bb19c29.png)
Thuverl Salan (Destroyer)
The Thuverl-Salan is seen frequently in the animated series. It appears to be the command ship for many smaller formations or brigades/divisions. It is seen under the control of Khyron (a megalomaniac commander in the Zentraedi fleet). It is a large ship (nearly the size of the SDF-1). It is a Thuverl-Salan that finally crashes into the SDF-1 at the close of the series, destroying both ships.
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Queadoll-Magdomilla (Multi-part frigate?)
The Queadoll-Magdomilla is a little confusing. I believe it is only see in the service of all-female units (Azonia's ship etc.). It is a frigate/destroyer sized ship, and is notable that the front catfish looking section can separate from the rest of the ship. The purpose for this is unknown (perhaps for landing on a planetary surface or escape when the ship is damaged?). Again, very few details about the ship.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QueadolMagdomilla_zps7c5675ac.png)
Quiltra-Queleual
Another ship which is frequently seen - but I have zero info on it. Perhaps a standard light carrier or frigate/destroyer? No size comparison that I can find.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QuiltraQueleual_zps3a6d9df6.png)
Qualitra-Quelamitz
Another vessel I don't even recall seeing in the show. It's been detailed in some fan posts, but I have no information on it. Assume another ship of some sort of naval service.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QualitraQuelamitz_zps87a2de83.png)
Quel-Quallie (Recon Ship)
The Quel-Quallie is a scout/landing ship which is featured in several episodes. It can carry a decent amount of mecha in its bays, but serves predominantly as a long-range scouting vessel. It can be crewed by as few as three. It features a vast array of reconnaissance gear (radars, optics, electronic interference, etc.). Inside the ship has banks of monitors for the crew to observe. It features a pair of double-barreled laser cannons and a small array of missiles. The large grey pylons can rotate down to allow the ship to land and possibly even walk on a planetary surface (it's never seen walking in the animated series). There are some animated scenes where the ship scales seems vastly over-rated.
For reference, Rick Hunter's 45' tall Veritech punches its way in through the "Cyclops" eye at the front of the ship. So assume a dozen or so mecha could be carried on board.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QuelQuallie_zps4378e6a9.png)
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A large radar assembly can be deployed underneath the fuselage of the Quel-Quallie, dropping through two large bomb-bay doors. This would be for extreme distance radar and monitoring - obviously stowed for travel or combat.
Zentraedi Shuttle
The Zentraedi shuttle is seen in a few episodes. It apparently carries a half dozen or more Zentraedi in full size from ship to ship (possibly to a planet's surface but this is not shown in the animated series - assume ship-to-ship primarily).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediShuttle_zps12545610.png)
Landing Craft/Reentry Pod
Never mentioned by a Zentraedi name, the common entry pod is a drop ship capable of delivering several dozen mecha to a planet's surface. It can submerge in water (shown several times in the animated series) and has large bay doors which open and lay flat (draw bridge style). No weapons are shown firing in the animated series, but it's safe to say that some weapons must be present --- some items resembling Zentraedi missile launchers are present at the top four "shoulders" of the pod. This craft is the primary way that Battle Pods and similar mecha are delivered to a planet since they are in capable of breaking atmosphere by themselves (another tactic is for a larger ship to enter the atmosphere and drop battle pods off via a kind of airborne drop (battle pods have enough thrusters to sustain limited flight/drops).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/ZentraediReentryPod_zpse1ebaabc.png)
*This post brought to you by my procrastination in finishing a college paper...and using this as an excuse to delay that another half hour...
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ARMD Platform
The ARMD Platform or "Armor" series of ships are featured in the first few episodes. I believe all of them (there must be around a dozen) are destroyed in the fighting. It's unknown if the ARMD series were in existence prior to the arrival of the SDF crash landing. During the opening attack the crew of the SDF-1 mentioned losing several "Armor" ships. They likely served as defensive fighter platforms in orbit around the Earth. They are seen firing missiles and beam weapons and launching space craft.
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According to "the book", there were four ARMD platforms in orbit during Breetai's fleet initial attack. What you see on the screen is the ARMD throwing nuclear missiles against the saladin scout first sent to check Earth's defenses. In the Robotech "creative translation" Breetai and Exedore cannot believe it to be shooting such uneffective and antique projectiles (which seems wrong, as it just blew up one of their ships, so their reaction is a bit illogical). In the original Macross series they are amazed because they understand that the missiles contained reactive (i.e., nuclear) warheads, a technology lost with the protoculture thousands of years ago. That's what makes Breetai hold the attack and try to get Macross intact instead of blowing it (and Earth itself) up to pieces (standard zentraedi procedure when contacting other peoples since the times of the galactic civil war, what that's another story), as he guesses the people aboard the vessel maybe the last remnant of the protoculture.
UN Spacy Cruiser
This is a spacecraft which is shown a handful of times and not really mentioned in any detail. I haven't dug up any origins or notes on it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/UNSpacyCruiser_zps2eeb0e3a.png)
This spacecraft (wrongly identified in the paladium books as a fighter) is the Obert-class cruiser. According to the Perfect Memory`books, the Macross' commanding officer won his post after destroying a hijacked unit (hijacked by antiunification forces who killed the people assigned to Mars base) in the first humanity's space battle ever (and the only Oberth vs Oberth confrontation so far). You can see its stats here:
http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/realm/7194/oberth.htm (http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/realm/7194/oberth.htm)
Also, there is a free papermodel somewhere on the net (but it is aout of scale with the kickstarter stuff)
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Awesome info! Thanks for clearing some of that up. As much as I adore Robotech/Macross I've never owned any of the heaps of excellent magazines/books on the stuff (many in Japanese obviously).
Please, anyone with additional please feel free to add to this thread! At some point in the next 6-months I'll be starting on the four starter boxes I've got sitting in a corner! lol
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Nupetiet Vergnitz (Flagship)
The Nupetiet Vergnitz is Breetai's flagship. Breetai is the name of the commander of the Zentraedi forces present in the animated series. He'll be discussed later in a post covering "characters". The Nup-Verg is only seen as Breetai's vessel. It is unknown if the ship is one of many flagship-class vessels or if it is a special vessel for Breetai only (unlikely). It is gigantic, larger than the SDF-1 and bristling with all manner of weapons and a huge complement of mecha. There is limited information on most of the Zentraedi ships seen in the series. The Nupetiet Vergnitz is showing moving a large portion of its front section (opening almost) to fire its main cannon.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NupetietVergnitz3_zps3bae47d7.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/NupetietVergnitz_zpsfd345ed8.png)
Additional ships of this type are visible in some massed fleet shots. It appears to be a standard heavy cruiser or super-heavy cruiser class. The two-tone livery appears to denote the ships command/flagship status: the others are just the basic green like the other ships listed/shown here.
Quiltra-Queleual
Another ship which is frequently seen - but I have zero info on it. Perhaps a standard light carrier or frigate/destroyer? No size comparison that I can find.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QuiltraQueleual_zps3a6d9df6.png)
IIRC these are troop transports.
Qualitra-Quelamitz
Another vessel I don't even recall seeing in the show. It's been detailed in some fan posts, but I have no information on it. Assume another ship of some sort of naval service.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/CCC%20Project/Robotech/QualitraQuelamitz_zps87a2de83.png)
Heavy beam destroyer (or something similar to that effect). The fore section splits open along the latitudinal line to become a single giant version of the two-pronged energy weapon seen on other ships as CIWS/AA turrets. Intended for cap ship killing and orbital bombardment, I'd guess, but I don't remember exactly.
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Also: this thread is giving me a mighty hankerin' to dig out the old PS2 and play me some Robotech Battlecry.