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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 07:31:42 AM

Title: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 07:31:42 AM
In my search for suitable miniatures for a near future project i had a look on the website of Scotia Grendel. Their commandoes might be the ones i am looking for. Unfortunately the pictures on the website are quite small.
Does anyone here on LAF has any real life experience with these miniatures? Cheers.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Rob_Jedi on 18 May 2014, 08:09:42 AM
got a link to show which ones you mean?
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 08:20:25 AM
And yes...a few pictures might help.  8)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: markiemark on 18 May 2014, 08:25:10 AM
Hi,

I believe this range was from i-kore...
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: markiemark on 18 May 2014, 08:28:48 AM

the Viridians. .
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Rob_Jedi on 18 May 2014, 08:34:41 AM
OK those are old Void miniatures, the whole range was quite nice, a lot of the good ones were Kev White sculpts.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 08:35:43 AM
Hi,

I believe this range was from i-kore...
Okay Mark, I-kore or G-spot. Whatever. If you have those particular miniatures i would like to know. Don't sprint away just yet but any where in the coming month would be much appreciated. As will be your gesture of donating them to the good cause  lol
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 08:37:40 AM
OK those are old Void miniatures, the whole range was quite nice, a lot of the good ones were Kev White sculpts.
According to the website of Scotia Grendel they are still Void....Void 1.1 as it were. Any hands-on experience? Cheers.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 09:22:39 AM
the Viridians. .
Indeed. Viridians. Commandoes. And when you look at the pictures you will recognize where GW got the idea for the Catachans. Or was it the other way around. Anyway, these Soctia Grendel Viridian commandoes are quite nice and very reasonably priced. So if anyone can tell me more about the quality of these miniature it would be much appreciated.  8)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on 18 May 2014, 09:42:05 AM
super nice Miniatures,mosty single Pieces,very clean Cast.They fit well with GW  :) Good Mix of Male/Female Characters

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Void/Photobucket012-2.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Void/Photobucket012-2.jpg.html)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Void/Photobucket002-2.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Void/Photobucket002-2.jpg.html)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Void/Photobucket007-2.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Void/Photobucket007-2.jpg.html)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Void/Photobucket008.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Void/Photobucket008.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 18 May 2014, 09:59:50 AM
Indeed. Viridians. Commandoes. And when you look at the pictures you will recognize where GW got the idea for the Catachans. Or was it the other way around. Anyway, these Soctia Grendel Viridian commandoes are quite nice and very reasonably priced. So if anyone can tell me more about the quality of these miniature it would be much appreciated.  8)

I've got a couple of them back in the day (2002 or so) when they were first released (so well after the Catachans, FWIW). In a way, they are a throwback to the Warzone Bauhaus Jungle Commandos, but with reasonable pulse rifle thingies in place of the slightly OTT rotary shotguns.

Here are some quick shots of mine. Old (10 years+) paintjobs, varnish has silvered somewhat, dusty and chipped to boot. They really should go to the stripping vat for an eventual re-paint.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/commandos1_zpsd41b81f8.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/commandos2_zpsce102207.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/commandos3_zps727cfec2.jpg)

Last one is a comparison shot with a Copplestone-sculpted Mirliton Ex-Grenadier Future Warriors figure.

Generally, sculpt and casting quality were rather good back in the day, and I got numerous Kryomek figs from Scotia in recent years which were well-cast, too. The sculpting quality is still fine, although the poses look a bit stiff, if you ask me. Weapons aren't too bad either, the machetes look remarkably un-cricket-batty IMHO.

I've alway had fine to great service from Scotia Grendel, so nothing to stop you ordering from them. The casting quality of some of the larger resin stuff I got was a bit spotty, which may be due to deteriorating moulds (mainly old 1990s stuff, like the 5-pounder Hydra). Smaller figures should be fine.

EDIT: Bloody Swiss Army Ninjas.  lol
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Inso on 18 May 2014, 10:08:25 AM
I've got lots of Void stuff from Scotia and it has always been good quality.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: former user on 18 May 2014, 10:15:32 AM
yes, they pretty much go 1:1 with copplestone. they are actually too slender to go with plastic catachans, but they work acceptable with the metal ones and with house orlock. the viridian range btw includes a few colonial marines that are quite similar. I have them all and love them for theit simplicity. I combine them in units with copplestone future warriors, old, new and foundry

if they were sculpted by Kev White, it explains why they go so well with Haslefree

Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 02:44:10 PM
Gents, many thanks for the insightfull and helpfull answers (as per usual) to my question. Chris and Doc those are lovely miniatures and very well painted and they have really put the hook in me. Scotia Grendel (are they present here on LAF?) will see in the very near furure a small order from me coming their way. Cheers
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: area23 on 18 May 2014, 09:06:42 PM
Don't want to sound like a pedantic nerd, but this particular series were not by Kevin White (who did almost all the void miniatures) but, if I'm not mistaken, by Steve Saleh.  ;D
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 18 May 2014, 09:42:53 PM
Don't want to sound like a pedantic nerd, but this particular series were not by Kevin White (who did almost all the void miniatures) but, if I'm not mistaken, by Steve Saleh.  ;D
Thanks Steve. It is of no consequence to me who was the sculptor. Why do you think you sound like a pedantic nerd?-)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: former user on 18 May 2014, 10:49:38 PM
Don't want to sound like a pedantic nerd, but this particular series were not by Kevin White (who did almost all the void miniatures) but, if I'm not mistaken, by Steve Saleh. 

THX for the information, good to know - anyway, they still go with Kev White's sculpts
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: area23 on 18 May 2014, 10:56:26 PM
do you think you sound like a pedantic nerd?-)
Ha ha. At times I'm a bit obsessed with who sculpted what, of whatever range, while I realise some people possibly really couldn't care at all who made it.  :)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Steve F on 18 May 2014, 11:13:43 PM
It's always worth giving credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: former user on 18 May 2014, 11:16:53 PM
well, they should care, it is the sculpt that sells the story and plot of the game.

do You know who took over vthze sculpting when thr game changed to urban war?
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 19 May 2014, 01:40:18 AM
Scotia Grendel have some great pieces hidden away in the accessories lines. Good prices too.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 19 May 2014, 06:40:27 AM
Ha ha. At times I'm a bit obsessed with who sculpted what, of whatever range, while I realise some people possibly really couldn't care at all who made it.  :)
Do not get me wrong. In another field of interest i do the same. And i do appreciate the artistry that is involved with sculpting a miniature.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 19 May 2014, 06:41:58 AM
Scotia Grendel have some great pieces hidden away in the accessories lines. Good prices too.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: area23 on 19 May 2014, 02:57:36 PM
do You know who took over vthze sculpting when thr game changed to urban war?
I think they stopped crediting their sculptors when they got on like Urban Mammoth after I-Kore went down.

Google says James van Schaik did some of the Urban War things, but I don't know if these were the first wave (some are discontinued now) or the second.

Back on topic; these commando's are really growing on me, they are much nicer than what I remembered. :D
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 19 May 2014, 06:45:39 PM
Back on topic; these commando's are really growing on me, they are much nicer than what I remembered. :D
Yup. They are realy very nice.  8)
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: eilif on 19 May 2014, 09:22:09 PM
Just to jump on the bandwagon, I love Void miniatures.  I have been steadily acquiring the Junker's Faction over the last few years.

They size and proportions of Void miniatures are fairly comparable with 90's era GW and warzone (height of GW and chunkyness of warzone in many cases).

I also really like the way Ikore figures paint up.  The sculpting is always well done, but they aren't over-crowded with needless detail and ornamentation like current GW. They work well with traditional painting and with the block and dip (with a touch of drybrush where necessary) method that I do. Here's a batch of Junkers I did last year, but only found the shields for them a couple months ago.
http://chicagoskirmish.blogspot.com/2012/12/fully-painted-void-junkers-and-neo.html
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RU_98XC4vfA/UMdU08cQO9I/AAAAAAAAC3Y/9eh24haVhVY/s1600/Legionaires+group.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ln3n0NzAvwc/UMdauVuSgcI/AAAAAAAAC4U/TM5fk3azPys/s1600/Legionaires+detail+1.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rbBCHOy-HrQ/UMda5PnIx6I/AAAAAAAAC4c/lmqALk7RbJ4/s1600/Legionnares+detail+2.jpg)

And some from an earlier gallery. These used a brown dip, but the switch to a black dip (minwax tudor) as seen on the legionaires above was -IMHO- an improvement.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-24779-18824_Junkers.html
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/8/4/254755_md-Buggy%2C%20Jeep%2C%20Void.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/8/4/254760_md-Dipped%2C%20Gladiators%2C%20Junkers%2C%20Urban%20War.JPG)
The middle dude is a modified warzone fig.
Title: Re: Scotia Grendel.
Post by: Legion1963 on 20 May 2014, 05:31:10 AM
Wow! That's quite a collection. I especially like the armored vehicle. Cheers.