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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Operator5 on 10 July 2006, 01:59:36 PM
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Is this a new forum Professor? I don't recall seeing this last week.
And it's a good place to talk about the next game that Rattrap Productions will be putting out.
The game is called Gloire: Adventure in the Age of Kings. It is set during the period of the Three Musketeers. It will be based on the .45 Adventure rules design, but modified slightly to get the period feel. It will be an entirely seperate game from .45 Adventure and Gloire is the first of hopefully many releases for it.
Pete Murray is writing all the new bits and will be convention testing it at Historicon in two weeks. Kim Allman is working on cover and interior art for it.
Some time in August, I'll be setting up the website for it. And the rules should be available around the end of the year.
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Excellent !
And I have all the needful miniatures for it ! Tada !!!
Finally I have a good reason to paint them. They are Redoubt Musketeers plus all the fellas from that time. I can recomment those miniatures !
Good idea with that kind of rules. I will buy me one :D
Björn
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"sdeyoung" is the Prof.Hes :-)
Great news, Rich! I see you're a true adventurer :-) Looking forward to see the rules.
And in the meantime I need those Redoubt minis too...
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And in the meantime I need those Redoubt minis too...
:lol:
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Rich,
thats why I suggested adding it to the forums. Granted it also includes some pirate gaming as well, but since the impending release of Gloire is upon us, it couldnt hurt to add some tidbits here as well.
I'm hoping to get some of the things i have up in here today. I have to finish a commision today, so that is slowing me down.
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What'd I miss? Am I late? Am I late?
Seriously, Gloire is coming along well, and the demo game I'll be putting on at Historicon uses *drumroll* Redoubt musketeers! I'll try to put some pictures up of the game board in development. The musketeers are off at Pictors Studio for painting, but should be here soon.
If you've got questions about Gloire--rules or whatever--I'd be glad to answer them, too!
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Hi Pete,
welcome! I assume, we will find in the rules the profiles to play the Three Muskeeters and other Dumas characters? How about Zorro? Btw, do anyone know a 28mm Zorro? The size of the playable groups similar to .45, less then 10?
Alex
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Pete,
welcome aboard. You should post an image or two of your carrying box for the tavern. it came out real nice. I'm probably going to borrow the idea for mine as well. I'll probably do a roudned top though that will open for the figures.
also since it hasnt been mentioned for the rules, here is a link to their yahoo group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gloire
there is some info in there, but I am sure once Historicon comes and goes, there will be more.
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Hello perfessers!
As far as Gloire and the profiles of the Four Musketeers and Zorro in the rulebook, I don't think there's been a firm decision on that. If they're not in the rulebook, I might write them up and distribute them as a pdf download for free.
Yes, the groups will be about the same size as the ones in .45 Adventures. There are some differences. Grade 3 and Grade 2 characters are about the same in Gloire as .45 Adventures, but the Gloire Grade 1s are equivalent to the half-grade models in .45 Adventures. This was at Rich's suggestion, and I think it's good. It gives you two levels of heroes and lots of cannon fodder!
I made a wooden case to carry the 2'x2' game board around. It has a large removable lid to protect the scenery on the board. Here are some photos:
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k116/PeteMurray/PeteBox-06.jpg)
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k116/PeteMurray/PeteBox-07.jpg)
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k116/PeteMurray/PeteBox-08.jpg)
Details of the corner joinery of the bottom frame which supports the playing surface.
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k116/PeteMurray/PeteBox-02.jpg)
A movie showing how it works: http://home.comcast.net/~pgmurray/MOV02661.MPG (8mb, 20sec)[/url]
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Pete, that is absolutely too cool!
When can you make me one?
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the case is great, reminds me of my mammoth transport case:
http://www.witchhunter.net/gallery_norse_war_mammoth_07.html
my father has made it for me, i think he could make such a 2'x2' case too :-)
is there the rules for the mounted models? And how about the cardinal himself?
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Thanks! No, I'm not taking orders right now! It was enough to finish this one...
The mammoth case is much nicer than mine, with better finish and better construction--your father could build something better in less time.
Horses are definitely in the basic rulebook. There's even a "heroic horse" who can get his own abilities. There are a couple of character archetypes you could use for the cardinal, but again, I don't know if there will be any famous literary characters in the rulebook.
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And in the meantime I need those Redoubt minis too...
:lol:
I actually have a full set of the Redoubt stuff and they are painted! (well, almost all of them...).
I ran a Three Musketeers participation game at a convention a couple of years ago using my own rules based on En Garde!
Pictures here:
http://guildford-wargames.org.uk/info/?page_id=34&file=Shows/Valhalla%202004%20-%20Three%20Musketeers/
I'd like an excuse to use the figures again - I have built a complete Inn to use with them as well...
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I'd imagine that having hte actual characters in the book might be a bit of a copyright infrigment, but having htem as a free download isnt.
BTW, the heroic horse is a pretty good friend to have around.
Also the rules will be very adaptable for whatever character you want to make. its just a matter of finding hte right archtype to make your character out of. My tavern owner is using the "Executioner" archtype, as that fits him the best. So for the cardinal you might want to use the "Man of the Cloth" archtype, or something else depending on how you want to create him
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very good idea for the board case. I think i will steal this idea. :P
Maybe for two boards ???
Also nice pictures from the musketeers game.
A couple of years ago i saw pictures of a game with a skirmish in an Inn and a skirmish with a coach and Richellieu. Both were close to the 70`s Musketeers movie. After that I had to buy the Redoubt miniatures. I can really recommend them. They are very nice !
Björn
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Pictures here:
http://guildford-wargames.org.uk/info/?page_id=34&file=Shows/Valhalla%202004%20-%20Three%20Musketeers/
I'd like an excuse to use the figures again - I have built a complete Inn to use with them as well...
Mike, welcome! Very nice pictures, make me want to begin a musketeers project :-) But I need the figs!!! Is the ship scratchbuilt?
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Mike, welcome! Very nice pictures, make me want to begin a musketeers project :-) But I need the figs!!! Is the ship scratchbuilt?
Thanks.
It was a joint club project - I provided most of the figures (the towns folk are mostly Redoubt ECW range) plus the base board/harbour area.
Someone else scratch built the buildings.
And yes, the ship is scratch built by a very talented club member called John Rich - adapted from the Gary Chalk plans in Wargames Illustrated.
The game was a lot of fun to run.
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I'd imagine that having hte actual characters in the book might be a bit of a copyright infrigment, but having htem as a free download isnt. ....
Doesn't seem to have stopped Eureka though. Is Gloire going to be flexible enough to allow for other scales/sizes eg 40mm? I might have to get painting.
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Is Gloire going to be flexible enough to allow for other scales/sizes eg 40mm? I might have to get painting.
Like .45 Adventure, scale is not exactly important since there is not a serious attempt to accurately calculate ranges, etc. You can play the game with it as is in 15mm, 28mm, or 40mm without affecting the rules.
With 40mm you may want to bump all ranges and movements by 25% (or make it easy and double it) and you may want to play on a larger surface than the 2'x2' recommended, BUT that is entirely up to you.
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Etranger,
Yes, Eureka has the stats in their rules, but they are for free, and not for profit as Rich/Petes rules will be. So I think that is why they can do it. I can be completely wrong though.
I'll agree with Rich that if you go about 25% of what the rules call for, then the rules would work fine for 40mm.
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Etranger,
Yes, Eureka has the stats in their rules, but they are for free, and not for profit as Rich/Petes rules will be. So I think that is why they can do it. I can be completely wrong though.
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Alexandre Dumas died in 1870, so his books and their characters are no longer in copyright. You probably couldn't base them on the 1970s versions in the film, but the films are VERY close to the books anyway.
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good point. I'm sure RIch and Pete will make the right call on that one. I would gaher that they might not be in the book but as a free download. Rich is really good at making free supplements for his rules, so I would imagine that as long as the rules prove to be half as popular as 45A, then we can see the same support
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There have been a few Musketeer movies since the 70s, and I wouldn't want to go toe-to-toe with The Mouse over the public-domain status of Dumas' characters. I guess that's my major reluctance to put them in the book.
On a matter of gaming philosophy, I don't see why people can't create their own D'Artagnans with the appropriate character templates. I think including famous literary characters can needlessly restrict people's ability to see the potential in the genre. I'd rather the rules be a toolkit to allow people to create their own adventures.
It's my intention to follow up the rulebook with lots of good freebies. Rich's precedent for doing so with .45 Adventures is what helps make it a popular game.
You can also play Gloire with the 90mm Papo plastic figures, or 6mm, if you wanted to! You just have to adjust your ranges appropriately. I think there will be a scale conversion table in the book for your edification.
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Dumas' characters are surely in the public domain. Even the largest and most powerful corporation cannot seize the rights to something that is already out of copyright. They can protect their own version of D'Artagnon and chums, but they don't own the names or the characters.
It seems crazy to have a three musketeers world where our heroes are Jim, Eddie, Fat Bert and Stinky Steve.