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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: shandy on 31 May 2014, 10:24:09 AM

Title: Building a medieval cog
Post by: shandy on 31 May 2014, 10:24:09 AM: Hi,

for our WotR project, I've been scratch building a medieval cog:
http://wargamingraft.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/scratchbuilding-a-medieval-cog/

I know that the shape of the hull is too narrow for a medieval ship and I'm not sure if I should continue and make more of those or try a different approach…

Cheers,
Shandy
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: rumacara on 31 May 2014, 10:47:02 AM: Hello Shandy

Your Cog is very good. :-*
If you search for the Zvezda boats (medieval cog) you will see that it works also for 28mm and that a lot of people use them to transform to something else.
Dont worry if you end up with several diferent cogs.
That´s equal to the reality so go for it.
Excelent work.

Cheers

Rui
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: shandy on 31 May 2014, 11:22:34 AM: Thanks Rui! And thanks for the Zvezda hint, unfortunately I need it for 15mm, I guess it would be too large for that.
Anyway, I'll probably build more of them...
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: fastolfrus on 31 May 2014, 11:40:38 AM: I vaguely recall a tv programme about an archaoligical dig with a medieval cog.
Somewhere like Bristol?

But otherwise didn't HMGS do something about cogs (possibly a Sluys project, it's a couple of years since I read it)? Or Gary Chalk?

There was a full size replica built a few years back, with a tv programme and a book
http://www.matthew.co.uk/
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: Byblos on 31 May 2014, 11:41:34 AM: Excellent work !!!
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: rumacara on 31 May 2014, 12:18:36 PM: If i´m not wrong Essex miniatures had one and check Old Glory too.
Both these have boats for 15mm.
If i come across something i will pm you.

Cheers

Rui
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: Arlequín on 01 June 2014, 12:08:48 AM: Quote from: shandy on 31 May 2014, 10:24:09 AM
I know that the shape of the hull is too narrow for a medieval ship and I'm not sure if I should continue and make more of those or try a different approach…

Not so, the cog was a somewhat outdated design by the 15th Century, but still used. Other vessels were being introduced, like the crayer and hoy, which were somewhat slimmer than the traditional cog. Caravels and Carracks were becoming common too. As long as it's ship-shape (see what I did there?), it will fit as something.

Fore and aft castles were sometimes only temporary structures on some types too and only added if any fighting was likely.

So to me it looks the part at least. Nice job! 8)
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 01 June 2014, 01:17:57 PM: Great job - well done :)
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: fred on 01 June 2014, 01:18:21 PM: Looks good to me.

Once the for and aft castles are on, they are what you see as the main shape of the ship, not the hull.

If you don't show people the WIP shots, they would never know it started as a modern ship.
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: janner on 02 June 2014, 11:02:18 PM: Looking good :)
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 02 June 2014, 11:23:01 PM: There are a bunch of very nice paper/card ones on Barony Miniatures site - old school sculptor (Heritage) who is doing some really nice Medievals etc. Can't link direct as blocked from work >:( but the main site is here;

baronyminiatures.com (http://baronyminiatures.com)
Title: Re: Building a medieval cog
Post by: shandy on 03 June 2014, 10:13:36 AM: Looks like the Barony Miniatures cardboard ones are for 28mm… much too large for my purposes - my scratch built one is only about 15cm long.
Thanks anyway, and thanks to everybody for the great feedback!