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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: blacksmith on 01 July 2014, 05:39:46 PM
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Sorry if this has been asked before (probably) but could you name rulesets for WWII in which one base/stand represents one squadron?
I can only recall Poor Bloody Infantry and Crossfire and I'm very interested in knowing other ones.
TIA
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The GHQ rules are. Not sure if you are looking for small scale minis, too. :D
Also, available for a free download:
http://www.ghqmodels.com/pages/military/freestuff.asp
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The GHQ rules are. Not sure if you are looking for small scale minis, too. :D
Also, available for a free download:
http://www.ghqmodels.com/pages/military/freestuff.asp
Thank you Grant. I'm planning to game with 10mm and at company level with supports.
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Thank you Grant. I'm planning to game with 10mm and at company level with supports.
You could easily use the GHQ rules for that, actually. Could even expand to battalion ...
edit: sorry, GHQ are 1 stand: 1 platoon/troop of armour. A bit more condensed. Still ...
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Actually, GHQ has two WW2 land rules - Micro Squad is set at the one base = one squad level you are looking for. They can be had for free from Wargame Vault:
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/104180/Micro-Squad-The-11-Scale-Game-WWII-2nd-Edition
Fireball Forward and Battlefront: WWII also come to mind.
http://fireballforward.com/
http://www.fireandfury.com/products/desc_bfww2.shtml
Hope that helps,
Mike
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Actually, GHQ has two WW2 land rules - Micro Squad is set at the one base = one squad level you are looking for. They can be had for free from Wargame Vault:
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/104180/Micro-Squad-The-11-Scale-Game-WWII-2nd-Edition
Fireball Forward and Battlefront: WWII also come to mind.
http://fireballforward.com/
http://www.fireandfury.com/products/desc_bfww2.shtml
Hope that helps,
Mike
Wasn't Fireball Forward similar to Squad Leader? Already downloading Micro-Squad. Thank you!
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You are right - the authors used Squad Leader to develop FF, but it is not as detailed as Squad Leader. FF has a strong Crossfire feel to it. It's a really nice system, IMHO. The authors had a test kit on their website with the basic infantry rules in it - I don't know if it is still up.
Mike
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Spearhead uses 1 base=1 unit; I believe its intended for actions at regimental to corps level. I've never played it myself, but I have friends who like it a lot. It has variants for WW1 up to Modern.
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You can do it with my WWII rules too, I have a whole section in the book how to use multibased infantry stands in Victory Decision.
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/victory_decision.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/victory_decision.html)
The rules cover individually based infantry miniatures and also group- or multibased miniatures, aka Infantry Stands. While designed with 20-28mm miniatures in mind the Victory Decision game system is flexible enough to handle any miniatures from 6mm to 32mm. So whatever your existing miniature collection consists of, you can start playing right away.
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Spearhead is one stand = a platoon scale. Blitzkrieg Commander 2 has 1 stand = 1 platoon as its basic scale but there are options for playing at 1 stand = 1 squad too. Crossfire is 1 stand = 1 squad but may no longer be available. Fistful of TOWs3 also has options to play 1 stand = 1 squad, despite the name FFT3 has stats for playing WW2 as well as moderns.
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Thank you very much for the imput guys, keep it coming :)
I'm interested in specifically designed games for company level with 1 stand 1 squad and I own Crossfire and PBI. I think I'm going to try FBF as I have fond memories of Squad Leader but didn't want to play it again for being so complicated.
Cheers,
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Battlegroup Panzergrenadier is my current favourite for this level of representation but I've not 'upgraded' to the deluxe version as yet
http://generaldebrigade.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/panzergrenadier-deluxe-now-available.html
Think they have now dropped the Battlegroup part of the name perhaps to avoid confusion with the system from Ironfist Publishing.
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Battlegroup Panzergrenadier is my current favourite for this level of representation but I've not 'upgraded' to the deluxe version as yet
http://generaldebrigade.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/panzergrenadier-deluxe-now-available.html
Think they have now dropped the Battlegroup part of the name perhaps to avoid confusion with the system from Ironfist Publishing.
Do you know of any review or BATREPS of this ruleset?
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Rapid Fire is rule set where 8 to 10 figures represent a company
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Do you know of any review or BATREPS of this ruleset?
http://sgtsteiner.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/new-panzer-grenadier-deluxe-first-try.html
http://saskatoonminiwargamer.blogspot.ca/search/label/Battlegroup%20Panzergrenadier
http://generaldebrigade.fr.yuku.com/topic/5776/PANZERGRENADIER-DELUXE-AAR#.U7XRwGcg_IU
http://generaldebrigade.fr.yuku.com/topic/5598/The-Skinny-on-Battlegroup-Panzergrenadier-Version-2#.U7XR_mcg_IU
http://www.stenicplus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/neck-of-swan-wettern-sept-44.html
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37719/battlegroup-panzergrenadier
http://www.edinburghwargames.com/WW2.htm
Should give you a pretty good idea
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Thank you very much NTM!!
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Fireball Forward is excellent (I game with one of the main playtesters who works with the author etc.). However, all of the games I've played are 5-men to a stand, or half-squads per base. I'm not sure if the rules insist on any particular scale.
That aside, it's a great game and plays excellent at company level.
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Four more Battlegroup Panzergrenadier (2nd ed) AARs that I found really useful to understand how the game works:
http://saskatoonminiwargamer.blogspot.ca/2013/10/armour-clash-aar.html
http://saskatoonminiwargamer.blogspot.ca/2013/11/defending-kobrin-aar.html
http://saskatoonminiwargamer.blogspot.ca/2013/11/counter-attack-at-bereza-aar.html
http://saskatoonminiwargamer.blogspot.ca/2013/12/berezina-bridgehead-aar.html
-shaun
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Battlegroup Panzergrenadier looks very interesting but it is not cheap. Will I need to buy game components and cards as well to be able to play a game?
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1 base to 1 squad is how we play Kampfgruppe Normandy (also works for the follow up Battlegroup xxx series of books). I much prefer it to the individually based figures.
My 6mm figures are based as 7 or 8 figures on a 30x30 base. So the same base works for Crossfire, KGN, Spearhead, Panzer Korps and Assault gun allowing us to play any scale of WW2 game from squad skirmish up to operational.
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Battlegroup Panzergrenadier looks very interesting but it is not cheap. Will I need to buy game components and cards as well to be able to play a game?
You do not need cards etc to play, but you do need some markers for some unit states, same as a lot of games.
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Battlegroup Panzergrenadier looks very interesting but it is not cheap. Will I need to buy game components and cards as well to be able to play a game?
I think you may be confusing it with Battlefront WWII which does use cards for unit stats. the core rule book comes with Late War US, USSR & German cards IIRC. You will need to purchase additional sets for LW Brits, Desert, Far East & Blitzkrieg.
Got my copy of Battlegroup Panzergrenadier quite cheap. Ordered the reduced price 1st edition to see if I liked the system prior to release of the Deluxe but received the 2nd instead for less than a tenner.
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I think you may be confusing it with Battlefront WWII which does use cards for unit stats. the core rule book comes with Late War US, USSR & German cards IIRC. You will need to purchase additional sets for LW Brits, Desert, Far East & Blitzkrieg.
Got my copy of Battlegroup Panzergrenadier quite cheap. Ordered the reduced price 1st edition to see if I liked the system prior to release of the Deluxe but received the 2nd instead for less than a tenner.
Well you're right as I was looking at Battlefront o_o
Do you know of anybody else who may be selling battlegroup panzergrenadier apart from Caliver?
thanks again :)
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Sorry no, it's a Partizan press publication so Caliver will be the primary source. I've always had good service from Caliver so not had the need to look for an alternative source.
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Sorry no, it's a Partizan press publication so Caliver will be the primary source. I've always had good service from Caliver so not had the need to look for an alternative source.
OK thank you. I've noticed there is a third edition deluxe but it expensive beyond reason. I'll probably order 2nd ed. form Minifigs as I also have to order some Germans and Russians.
Cheers,