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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Predatorpt on August 09, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
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It seems to be the answer to everyone who wanted to play with bigger ships on the X-Wing game :-*
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=270&enmi=Star%20Wars:%20Armada
In Star Wars: Armada, you command the unmatched power of the Imperial fleet, or gain the opportunity to prove your tactical acumen as an admiral in the Rebel Alliance. Massive Star Destroyers fly to battle against Rebel corvettes and frigates. Banks of turbolasers unleash torrential volleys of fire against squadrons of X-wings and TIEs.
Assemble your fleet, survey your objectives, form your battle plan, plot your course, call your shots, and destroy the enemy. Armada balances the awesome scale of the Star Wars galaxy’s ships and space warfare with ship designs and rules that make for accessible, intuitive play experiences. It’s your job to issue the tactical commands that will decide the course of battle and, perhaps, the fate of the galaxy.
The Star Wars: Armada Core Set contains everything you need to get started, including the rules, an articulated maneuver tool, a range ruler, six command dials, nine attack dice, ten unpainted squadrons, and three pre-painted ship miniatures (Victory-class Star Destroyer, Nebulon-B frigate, CR90 Corellian corvette), plus more than 130 cards and tokens.
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Not only have they brought us out of scale fighters, they now bring us out of scale capital ships... :?
Well, I'm sure some of them might be useful.
I'm assuming the rules will be of a similar vein to X-wing?
cheers
James
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Our 1/1000 scale is still better Jim. I might look out for those fighters though, just in case. ::)
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Not only have they brought us out of scale fighters, they now bring us out of scale capital ships... :?
Well, I'm sure some of them might be useful.
I'm assuming the rules will be of a similar vein to X-wing?
cheers
James
Here's an overview of the rules:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=270&esem=1
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I've been kvetching far greater, than about the scale, that the fighters come unpainted.
I speak heresy here, but I just...don't...paint...
Now, they are small, and I WILL get by, but, for a hunnert 'merican dollars, seems a bit cheap without the cheerful.
Doug
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Beast...something tells me a very simple black wash applied = fighters would be done (maybe a small dollop of coloured paint to differentiate rebel squadrons).
It looks...interesting, but I guess I'm out of touch with the Star Destroyer, since I'm used to this version: (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120302053031/starwars/images/a/a8/ImpStarDestroyer-SWI125.jpg)
Not the one with the weird side sponsons.
The control stick looks horrible, and it looks like the "formula" for these games is becoming more and more complex. I agree capital ship combat should be a bit complex, but I think they may be trying to cram a real normal rules set into a "fast out of the box" game mechanic. I imagine this will also have to always be many rebel ships vs. fewer Imperial vessels (something I love - always prefer uneven sides etc.). I'll wait until my buddies pick it up. Just looks like a bit much for the style of game.
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Ohh. ...I can see this being a game I get. It certainly appeals to me more than some simple dog fights!
How long do you give it before someone build a super Star Destroyer for it?
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It looks...interesting, but I guess I'm out of touch with the Star Destroyer.....not the one with the weird side sponsons.
The Armada one looks like the Victory Class rather than the Imperial Class (ie the Star Wars IV Star Destroyer). It's from various games etc, but only 60% of the size of the Imperial class.
That said, its still not the same scale as the Neb B, which in turn isn't the same scale a the CR90.
Might buy some fighters, but the rest is if no interest to me.
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How long do you give it before someone build a super Star Destroyer for it?
Don't.
You.
Dare.
Tempt.
Me.
lol
The trouble would be choosing a scale that would best fit :? Not easy with FFG's record so far.
cheers
James
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Don't.
You.
Dare.
Tempt.
Me.
He. He. He. ;D
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Don't.
You.
Dare.
Tempt.
Me.
lol
The trouble would be choosing a scale that would best fit :? Not easy with FFG's record so far.
cheers
James
oh James... super star destroyer.....cough cough! With fibre optics! :)
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He. He. He. ;D
oh James... super star destroyer.....cough cough! With fibre optics! :)
No! You cannot tempt me to the Darkside...
Although I was looking at doing a Victory class for 1:1000...
cheers
James
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Although I was looking at doing a Victory class for 1:1000...
We have it in writing now! :D Finish that space station while you're at it! ::)
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It's Star Wars - I'll buy it :-*
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I'll be honest - for something that involves capital size ships I just don't care much about the scale inaccuracies. Though I guess it's a smart move if that is a "small scale" star destroyer. The combat in the game (even at matching scale) would still be comically close - borderline absurd. I think I'd be fine leaning to the abstract side of things. It's the heaps of tokens and rather clunky looking mechanics which is turning me off.
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I'm interested, though the $100 price tag is a bit off putting especially if there an arms race following.
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I'm interested, though the $100 price tag is a bit off putting especially if there an arms race following.
AND if like X-Wing you really sort of need 2 sets....
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I'm interested, though the $100 price tag is a bit off putting especially if there an arms race following.
I was interested until I saw the price. I can only assume that the individual ships will also be at the same equivalent price as well making this far too expensive
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I think I'd be fine leaning to the abstract side of things. It's the heaps of tokens and rather clunky looking mechanics which is turning me off.
I suppose if they are considered as counters rather than models then the scale issue becomes a bit null and void but then it becomes a board game rather than a table top game (I see it as a table top game) and I certainly agree about the amount of tokens and mechanics, that's what is putting me off X-wing :?
cheers
James
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I think I'm still interested in the idea of the system...but prefer the very clean versions you got with Wings of War...placed some cards...moved models, and had a ruler. Not all of the maneuver sticks, clicky counters etc. I also don't mind tokens (hell my own games use them) but if you look at the box content it's a HEAP of clutter. lol
The big boxy bases with additional dials and counters could have been left to a simple card layout of the ship etc. Regarding the price...eh, I suspect you'll see it for $69.95 discount from many retailers. I can't say how nice the ships are or how big they are really. If they're the size of the Slave 1, MF etc. I do see it being rather pricey. The X-Wing starter box can be had for $27 here in the states ($15 on occasion when stores get rid of them!).
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ffgswx23.html
^A "bigger" ship for X-Wing is discounted to $20 which seems fair with the amount of junk that comes in the box. If they can keep most ships that reasonable perhaps?
PS: I will say one thing which excites me a little bit - is the idea of a campaign. Unlike a fistful of fighters the idea of each person controlling one big ship and trying to survive countless battles is pretty intriguing.
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I will wait and watch this as it developed. For me in new Zealand the price point will end up closer to $150NZD after the currencey exchange, postal costs etc etc.
The movement ruler looks clunkey and not sure how easy kids will pick up the game (considering my opponents will be 6 and 8) which will impact on whether I buy it or not.
I do like the stands of fighters..
LGW
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I think this game looks great. I've played a lot of different systems over the past few years, and Armada seems to have picked up a lot of the best parts of those. They are also making extensive use of play aids to speed up game play. So I don't see them as being clunky at all. That bendy movement tool will be way quicker to use than a protractor and ruler.
While there are a lot of box contents, I don't see this as being a huge amount of clutter. Most space games of this scale have issues with either way too much book-keeping or way too many counters. FFG has done a great job in putting as much info/tracking on the bases of the ships as possible. Nice part about it all being on the base is your opponent does have to constantly ask you for info on your ships. The ship cards themselves are relatively compact - and I assume the variety of other cards are upgrades or whatnot.
I am not shocked by the price. Yes its a lot more than Xwing starter but you also get a lot more in the box. I won't be getting two starters, but will instead pick up extra ships as they are released. For sure this starter is a small game and you'll need more, but I don't think you'll need double of everything that comes in the box.
-Tim
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I speak heresy here, but I just...don't...paint...
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You are not alone as a heretic here.
Gracias,
Glenn
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I suppose if they are considered as counters rather than models then the scale issue becomes a bit null and void but then it becomes a board game rather than a table top game (I see it as a table top game) and I certainly agree about the amount of tokens and mechanics, that's what is putting me off X-wing :?
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Here, we'll agree to disagree; in most space games I play, the scale is such you assume the ship would be an invisible dot, and all measuring is from center post, or dot on ship. Nothing puts me off a rule set like something about ships 'touching'...
I imagine the ships are a holo display.
You are not alone as a heretic here.
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And yet, again, someone suggested just a simple wash, and a dab of paint. Little bit preggers, don't you know. lol
BUT, it was more a quibble about a design slip versus the cost. I may be a store keep, but I oft think like 'Joe Everyman', and we expect a LOT for $100! :-[
Well, I suppose it could be argued that it's about the big ships, and who notices fighters in that fight.
Do I HAVE to remind FFG, it's STAR WARS? ;)
Quibble or not, I will have it! Like the 'War at Sea' Starship Battles, and the cliccy Star Trek: Tactics, and, and... :'(
HI, my name is Doug, and I'm an obsessive.