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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: sundayhero on September 12, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
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EDIT : I modified the title since finally I'll go with 28mm figures
HI,
I'm wondering if 10mm or 15mm minis compatible or inspired by Shadowrun and Cyberpunk licences are available somewhere. Figures, but also vehicles and scenery accessories (not buildings, but urban furniture, consoles, etc...).
I already found good figures for judge dredd setup, but I'm a bit struggling with these 2 other legendary near future urban scifi universes.
Since I want to recreate scale districts, 10mm is better (but I doubt I'd find something in this scale).
thanks !
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I personally started to do some 15mm accessory, not strictly SR but well, kind of.
That's a picture, but i'm planning to do more:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/936831_623274724388119_699331329_n.jpg?oh=da0c0f21afbadfd050cd10e40a82ee23&oe=5488AB1E&__gda__=1419356684_2e300112df620dc750b06c1002afbec9)
Cheers
Jack
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Nice! :D
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I am now going to invest in new 15mm accessories, if you have any idea or suggestion? :)
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Except those nice scenery accessories, it seems that there is no much choice for these universes lol
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http://talesfromfarpoint.blogspot.com/2014/08/olof-gunnie-gunnesson.html
http://talesfromfarpoint.blogspot.com/2014/09/warzone-15-supreme-necromagus.html
Fallow those links to some fantasy race braced 15mm that have a more modern vibe. Apparently the guy who makes them is planning on producing them some time next year. Ask you he might send some your way.
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There was a 15mm Shadowrun thread here not too long ago, I remember it because it had real lighting as part of the urban terrain :)
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Do you mean these threads?
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41941.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44060.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=43437.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=43520.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=42134.0
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Thanks for the links,
Concerning the LAF topics, I knew them, but unfortunatly except a few conversions or "count as", they don't speak about typical cyberpunk-ish minis.
The talesfromfarpoint links are still intersting, with more directly related minis like the low tech dwarf.
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No problem, I also think the GZG has a few that might work in a pinch also. At least for humans/elfs, and bigger build Orcs.
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=790
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=789
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=791
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=792
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=793
http://www.shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=794
Am I am sure kurasain has stuff that might fit the bill
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Interesting, especially the drones !
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http://www.jrmini.com/shop/jrmini.php?m=product_list&d=21&sc=10mm
I really liked these buildings, although 10mm they might be okay for 15mm. I don't have any myself, but they look nice.
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Yes, these buildings are nice, but I will scratch build them myself ;)
Thinking of the whole project, I think I'll sculpt and build all the scenery and acessories, and then make molds. Concerning minis, I'll do conversions, as usual ;)
I'll keep you all informed.
edit : by the way, if you have any ruleset to advise, it would be nice. I'm thinking to use (and tweak, especially adding some typical hack/cyber features) 5150:new beginnings from THW (I already own this game), maybe adding also some magic from THW fantasy games (since I also own a few).
I want some kind of light/combat oriented rpg, and I want to play it solo.
thanks
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Speaking of which, i just completed the first one of the "componible blocks" for my modular 15mm scifi-postapoc village!
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145051.jpg)
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145052.jpg)
This will be one of the several plaster blocks, meant to be glued together in groups of 2 or 3 and detailed with resin components. I have some components, but many more are going to arrive soon-ish!
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145053.jpg)
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145054.jpg)
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That's really cool, congrats !
I was thinking about my own project, I believe I'll stay in 28mm, because I already own dozens of near future/post apoc miniatures. For scenery, I'll do multi levels 30cm/1foot squares, this way I'll be able to create a 3x3 district table.
I'll keep the 15mm for my superheroes games. This way, I'll be able to create skycrapers and all.
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Excellent topic, Cyberpunk is the best. That reminds me I must go back to doing some Cyberpunk myself soon again...
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I also like Cyberpunk and Judge dredd setups, but I recently discovered Shadowruns, and I like the mix of cybernetics and fantasy.
I took a look on my 28mm collection, I found nice 2nd gen GW ratskins, wich will be excellent shamans 8) I also found droids from UrbanWar, wich will make really cool security robots, warzone corporation suits, etc, etc...That's why I'll stay in big scale, finally. Because going in 15mm and replace all these minis will not be money saving after all.
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Effigy Miniatures had a small range of 15mm figures for The Department, including a Not-Deckard and various "Fabricants" in disguise. They are closed at the moment, though.
http://josephdragovich.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/glimps-of-things-to-come.html
http://effigyminis.blogspot.de/
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Effigy, unfortunately closed down. :'(
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The same guy that made the Department game did a kickstarter not too long ago for a related game, Ghosts of Hefei, and some of those minis would make good cyberpunk characters. They're not in production yet, but something to keep an eye out for.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1931671462/ghosts-of-hefei-tabletop-near-future-gang-warfare
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Thanks
Finally I'll stay in 28mm for cyberpunk and shadowrun, mostly because I already have a big scifi 28mm collection (necromunda, urban war, warzone -especially corporation figures- and a few near future compatible heroclix). Scenery will be district/block scale, with detailed interiors.
I'll use 15mm only for epic super heroes gaming, where the scenery scale will be more "super" (I plan to create a full scale urban center ala manathan or mmogame Paragon city). It will allow me to create credible skycrapers, for example.
So concerning shadowrun in 28mm, I discovered that Ral Partha was still selling an official range ! It's really difficult to find decent pics of the minis. I'm a big fan of ral partha fantasy range, I'm wondering if anyone has good pics of the official RP shadowrun minis ? I'm wondering how they (the humans at least) will match (scale) old necromunda or urban war 28mm figures ?
thanks ! Tommorow I'll post a pic of my 28mm scifi collection I plan to use.
thanks
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I think Iron Wind Metals still produce this range, they will have pictures.
These are true 25mm scale and have non-heroic proportions (not completely realistic either but nothing like GW for example)., so they will be noticeably slighter and smaller than 28/32mm miniatures. Which is a shame because there are a lot of cool figures in this range. Grenadier's official Cyberpunk line has the same "Problem", if you can call it that.
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I myself have been looking for good 28mm cyberpunk miniatures.
I was really looking forward to Shadowrun's Sprawl Gangs miniature game, but I don't know if that is ever going to happen.
I backed the Mercs Recon kickstarter, partly because I think the game seems to me like a cooperate version of a Shadowrun, (I am even going to paint up the security forces like Lone Star troops) and partly because I can get a lot of use out of the unarmed office worker miniatures that are coming with the game.
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Personaly, I prefer old school style minis (modern or vintage), I'm not a fan of mercs miniatures, even if they are really good looking.
Concerning ral partha shadowrun minis, do you have any comparison pics ? Are the shadowrun RP minis the same scale the classic fantasy are ?
On my side, I'll take a look on my RP fantasy minis to compare with my urban war and (perfect size match) old necromunda figs.
thanks
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I would mind some old school style figs either, but for my tastes, the Necromunda figs I own (apart from a few escher gangers) have to much GW flavor to them to work for me.
I currently use a mix of some Foundry Street Violence figs, the odd Heroclix fig that I have re-purposed and Rezolution figures from Abberant games.
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Some good stuff here:
http://www.aberrantgames.com/darktomorrow.html
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Thanks for the links. Concerning the necromunda figures, I own Escher minis and ratskins.
The first ones are a good way to add female minis wich not look like Playboy central page models, and the 2nd ones are not bad for native americans and shamans in Shadowruns !
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Are the shadowrun RP minis the same scale the classic fantasy are ?
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Yes. 25mm scale.
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Some good stuff here:
http://www.aberrantgames.com/darktomorrow.html
Yes, Aberrant is terrific for Cyberpunk. I feel like such a turd I sold all of mine!
And East Riding Miniatures have very nice and characterful sculpts, which are quite cheap too. Win-win!
http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/corporate-wars-55-c.asp
And of course em4...but I assume everybody knows these :)
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I compared some of my necromunda (vansaar, escher) and urban war minis with the fantasy ral partha I have, they are a pretty decent scale match if you ask me. I'll post pics tonight. If the shadowrun range is the same size than the fantasy range, it should be OK.
I also found some of my old 1st edition warzone Cartel agents, they will make nice transhuman orcs with a bit of conversion.
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Speaking of which, i just completed the first one of the "componible blocks" for my modular 15mm scifi-postapoc village!
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145051.jpg)
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145052.jpg)
This will be one of the several plaster blocks, meant to be glued together in groups of 2 or 3 and detailed with resin components. I have some components, but many more are going to arrive soon-ish!
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145053.jpg)
(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/P9145054.jpg)
WANT!!!☺
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WANT!!!☺
I've opened a thread about:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=71028
cheers
Jack
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Here's the pics. The reference fantasy figures are from Ral Partha.
NecroMunda Vansaar :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180207_zps9d324ddb.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180207_zps9d324ddb.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180190_zps740157f2.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180190_zps740157f2.jpg.html)
NecroMunda escher :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180198_zps71a9a376.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180198_zps71a9a376.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180202_zps202b3d78.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180202_zps202b3d78.jpg.html)
Urban War robot (I don't know the names). I plan to use them (I have 4 or 5) as security droids :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180196_zps9bd215b9.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180196_zps9bd215b9.jpg.html)
Warzone cartel agent. Almost perfect shadowrun orc.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180211_zps31e0b116.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180211_zps31e0b116.jpg.html)
As you can see, even if the size vary (like in real life), it's still perfectly compatible, in my opinion. So if the official shadowrun RP minis are the same size, it will be OK for me.
Another Urban war mini. I plan to remove the backpack, and use them as Lonestar agents.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180217_zpsde46fd14.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P9180217_zpsde46fd14.jpg.html)
I also have necromunda ratskins, more vansaar and escher gangers, some spyrers (usefull for cyberware modified boss, for example), other Mutant chronicles cartels agents, some heroscape suits and samourais, and a few suitable heroclix minis (for trolls, satyrs, werewolfs, spirits, etc...).
If the ral partha official minis are the same size as fantasy ones, I will also probably buy a few more figures, like famous deckers.
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Thanks
Finally I'll stay in 28mm for cyberpunk and shadowrun, mostly because I already have a big scifi 28mm collection (necromunda, urban war, warzone -especially corporation figures- and a few near future compatible heroclix). Scenery will be district/block scale, with detailed interiors.
I'll use 15mm only for epic super heroes gaming, where the scenery scale will be more "super" (I plan to create a full scale urban center ala manathan or mmogame Paragon city). It will allow me to create credible skycrapers, for example.
So concerning shadowrun in 28mm, I discovered that Ral Partha was still selling an official range ! It's really difficult to find decent pics of the minis. I'm a big fan of ral partha fantasy range, I'm wondering if anyone has good pics of the official RP shadowrun minis ? I'm wondering how they (the humans at least) will match (scale) old necromunda or urban war 28mm figures ?
thanks ! Tommorow I'll post a pic of my 28mm scifi collection I plan to use.
thanks
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/chromedog/infinity/civilians.jpg)
There's a couple of the old Ral Partha shadowrun figures in this batch (as well as Grenadier Cyberpunk, grenadier Lawnmower man, Copplestone Grenadier, copplestone castings and others.) The corporate 2nd from right is a shadowrun figure.
I've got a few more - but they're inaccessible atm. I'll see about digging them out.
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I'd be happy to have comparison pictures ! Some of your minis seems significantly smaller than other ones. The diference is bigger than on my own comparisons RP fantasy/ other brands scifi minis.
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By the way, how big are the near future east riding miniatures ? Compared to necromunda or urban wars old references ?
thanks
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By the way, how big are the near future east riding miniatures ? Compared to necromunda or urban wars old references ?
thanks
East Riding minis vary in size depending on which line and sculptor. The Jim Bowen sculpted Corporate Wars figs are notably taller than necromunda figs. I actually just asked this question on a different forum, and here's a pic a fellow posted for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/JKA1QmC.jpg)
The figs on either side of the Escher ganger are ERM slick and an ERM enforcer. I've got the enforcer figure and while I've never measured him, I'm pretty sure he's 30mm sole to eye. I've got a batch of Slicks on the way and when they arrive I'll probably do a blog post/review with comparison pics.
I have noticed that there is something of a range of sizes for Ral Partha Shadowrun figs much the same as with their fantasy lines. I've got a few and there's a street samurai who is about 27mm, a dude with an assault rifle that is 28mm or taller, an elf that is closer to 25mm and a troll'ish guy with a big stick that is bigger than 28mm.
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Thank you for your help !
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In the same time I'm sarching for suitable minis, I'm thinnking about the ruleset I'll use.
Recently I played the PC game shadowrun returns, and I like the combat system. I guess the paper RPG rules are similar ? Do you think it could be used for advanced miniature skirmish (with full scenery, scenario driven) ?
Is it easy, or usual, to use RPG rules for miniature gaming ? Since I play mostly solo, or coop, I believe a RPG book would be easier to tweak for this kind of game (scenario based, specific NPC rules, etc...). But I don't have any experience in this.
Thanks for your help.
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In the same time I'm sarching for suitable minis, I'm thinnking about the ruleset I'll use.
Recently I played the PC game shadowrun returns, and I like the combat system. I guess the paper RPG rules are similar ? Do you think it could be used for advanced miniature skirmish (with full scenery, scenario driven) ?
Is it easy, or usual, to use RPG rules for miniature gaming ? Since I play mostly solo, or coop, I believe a RPG book would be easier to tweak for this kind of game (scenario based, specific NPC rules, etc...). But I don't have any experience in this.
Thanks for your help.
I generally shy away from RPG's for skirmish play just because the granularity of the system tends to bog down play. Still, if your friends are into RPG's it might be doable.
Luckily there are some other options as well.
-If you like Ganesha's SBH style games, then "Fistfull of Kung Fu" Might be a good one. It's basically designed to cover all aspects of Hong-Kong action movies, from old school martial arts, to more futuristic stuff. It's published by Osprey. I'm a huge fan of SBH so I ordered it last week.
-Another option, though it isn't quite released is. "Ghosts of Heife " is gang warfare rules set in a Not-Blade-Runner universe and using goalsystem mechanics. I've looked over the pre-release draft and it looks quite awesome. Has alot of elements beyond combat (hacking and such) that seem very shadowrun'ish. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1931671462/ghosts-of-hefei-tabletop-near-future-gang-warfare/posts
-If you just want some really fast-playing generic warband skirmish sci-fi combat rules, I really like In The Emperor's name. Though set in the 40k universe, it's a great generic sci-fi ruleset that's very adaptable and has a unit creation mechanic. Go with the 2nd edition as 3rd has a pretty website, but isn't quite ready for primetime. http://thegamesshed.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/in-the-emperors-name/
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By the way, how big are the near future east riding miniatures ? Compared to necromunda or urban wars old references ?
thanks
Here's a picture of mine showing 3 ERM with 2 Copplestones and a Necromunda model:
(http://paintoholic.nl/images/cyberleague.jpg)
Personally, I think they mix very well with each other.
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Thank you both for info and pics.
Concerning the ruleset, a few months (years?) ago I bough Two Hour wargames 5150 : new beginnings, wich seems to match a lot of my needs : (light) rpg feel, scifi urban skirmish, etc...
The only parts missing are the fantasy, matrix and the cyberware from Shadowrun. But since I owned some fantasy games from THW (warrior heroes), it should be able to add magic and creatures.
The last thing is the cyberware qnd hacking features, for this I may buy an used shadowrun rpg rulebook for inspiration.
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Here's a picture of mine showing 3 ERM with 2 Copplestones and a Necromunda model:
(http://paintoholic.nl/images/cyberleague.jpg)
Personally, I think they mix very well with each other.
Personally, I think your painting style covers any number of scale sins. I'm not looking at their height as the paintwork is too stunningly distracting.
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Personally, I think your painting style covers any number of scale sins. I'm not looking at their height as the paintwork is too stunningly distracting.
Agreed, amazing work! Though to be fair, the enforcers (great eyewear/coms mod!) do tower over the power armored spryer.
They do scale really well with copplestone. Amazing what getting rid of those chunky cast-on bases can do. I'll be taking a dremel to the bases of my slicks for sure.
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There quite a few models I use for shadowrun
Geezer from hasslefree as a troll with Panther cannon
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/g380.jpg)
Ruth from hasslefree as neon elvis , my decker
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/g312.jpg)
Grant from hasslefree as Toshi , street samurai
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/grant.jpg)
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They are really good looking (even if I'm not a fan of a helmet head for a decker), but looking the last picture, they seems to be on the large side of miniatures sizing ???
The troll would probably be compatible with my other figs.
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They stack up well scale wise , never really had a problem with them , the decker is a combat decker in my game , as most site sec is offline!
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I would suggest hasslefree as well as it's a project I've often thought of doing, my particular faves are
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFG405web.jpg)
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFA124%20Roddy%20composite.jpg)
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFA121%20Widow%20composite.jpg)
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFA123%20Mordakai%20composite.jpg)
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/a037%20harby.jpg)
A bit of conversion work on a couple to make orks/trolls and you're laughing
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I also found this for a modern looking hermetic Mage
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(http://store.pulp-city.com/spree/products/56/large/SanguineG.jpg?1292761975)
Include the pug , which could be a watcher spirit!
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Nice minis, even if I'd prefer to keep a more 90's look and feel in my setup ;)
By the way I just ordered an used 3rd edition rulebook today ! I'll use it at least as a source book for this project.
Now I'll make a listing of the figures I already have, and see what figures I could add. Basically, I'd say I should buy riggers, deckers, and trolls because I have no compatible figures, as far as I know.
I also have some remaining wargames factory survivors, wich would make nice "sculpting dollies" for shadowrun conversions.
I also bought a lot of MDF and depron sheets, for the board !
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but looking the last picture, they seems to be on the large side of miniatures sizing
No, they're 28mm 'scale'.
Some further SR conversion inspiration:
http://nopperablog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/behind-with-times-part-1-into-shadows.html (http://nopperablog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/behind-with-times-part-1-into-shadows.html)
http://four-color-figures.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Shadowrun (http://four-color-figures.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Shadowrun)
http://s591.photobucket.com/user/Yorrik1982/library/?sort=3&page=3 (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/Yorrik1982/library/?sort=3&page=3)
(http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss353/Yorrik1982/Chummers.jpg) (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/Yorrik1982/media/Chummers.jpg.html)
And there is this bad boy from Reaper's Chronoscope range:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTg4WDYwMA==/z/hIoAAOxyE3pSFSw0/$(KGrHqVHJEwFIHWRnqdZBSFSwz4jqg~~60_35.JPG)
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Thanks for your help.
No, they're 28mm 'scale'.
Concerning the size, I don't own any hasslefree minis, I was just referring to the photos with the ruler in the background, these specific minis appears to be 35mm tall, bigger than 28mm scale (wich I personnaly consider "heroic" when the eyes are at 28mm height, and "true" when the overal human sized mini measure 28mm to top of the head) ?
But again, I don't own any minis from this range, so I cannot say, I just see the pictures.
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Concerning the size, I don't own any hasslefree minis, I was just referring to the photos with the ruler in the background, these specific minis appears to be 35mm tall, bigger than 28mm scale (wich I personnaly consider "heroic" when the eyes are at 28mm height, and "true" when the overal human sized mini measure 28mm to top of the head) ?
Just so you know, these most miniature companies (and folks here) are going to give you measurements at to-the-eyes. It makes it easier to measure the comparative heights of minis without having to guess the difference due to headgear.
True vs heroic is usually used to refer to the bulk/proportion of the minis. True-scale minis are going to be thinner and more realistically proportioned whereas heroic is going to be bulkier. The exception is that some companies use "heroic" to justify why they are selling miniatures that are taller than 28mm to-the-eyes.
Just thought that might help you to make sense of some of the measurements we've been giving you in this thread.
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Anyway, my own "standard" for big scale (since I also do 10, 15 and 20mm) is 28mm, from feet to eyes ;)
So anything not in this norm has to be verified before I can mix the minis.
I'm not a scale or brand integrist (as I showed in the topic, I can easily mix relatively smaller ral parth with bigger GW or urbanwar, or even heroclix), but since Shadowrun is representing diferent kinds of metahumans, for gameplay (and overall look) purpose it will be easier to mainting some kind of size rule. Especially for humans, elves and orcs wich are relatively close in size.
So my own rule will be (considering the minis faces are obviously recognizable) :
human : from 25 to 28mm from feet to eyes (thin or bulky)
elves : from 28 to 32mm to feet to eyes (with thin shape)
orcs : from 28 to 32mm to feet to eyes (with bulky/muscled shape)
dwarves and trolls : small enough or big enough compared to the 3 other sizes
;) And as usual, with a 80-90's old school style since it's the central focus of my collection/miniature hobby.
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Here's a converted Hasslefree Grant (as shown earlier in the thread), next to EM4 Future Wars troopers. There's also a Foundry Street Violence SWAT sniper at the back (left side).
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cak6tbdJQjI/VB2wpDpZ2iI/AAAAAAAACe4/1Je214hf19c/s1600/WP_20140920_002.jpg)
The photo is NOT mine, it's the work of LAF's very own awesome Pijlie. Here's his excellent blog:
http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2014/09/escape-from-amersfoort-snake-strikes.html (http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2014/09/escape-from-amersfoort-snake-strikes.html)
I hope that helps!
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Thanks
It seems that the most difficult thing to find is good near future dwarfs !
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Hasslefree's Grymn are a must! (around 23mm to the eye):
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=miniatures (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=miniatures)
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The girl at the top of my previous post is an example of a female dwarf (grymm) from hasslefree, i think she's dead cute! :D
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I didn't notice it was a female dwarf, I was just thinking it was a planturous woman lol
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I didn't notice it was a female dwarf, I was just thinking it was a planturous woman lol
Hell man. With the lung capacity she has got going on there how can you think she is anything but female? :-)
Grimm
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Thanks
It seems that the most difficult thing to find is good near future dwarfs !
I would say it's decent near future elves!
Remember 3rd ed isn't the latest timeline either...
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I know, it's why I choosed 3rd edition. ;)
For minis, I will probably go mostly for official minis, to keep this old school touch !
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Well in that case always remember
"Watch your back, shoot straight, conserve ammo, and never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon."
And avoid anyone called drake....
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Mantic has their "Forgefathers" line of Space Dwarves, methinks.
A littble bit on the heavily armored side, but perhaps they could be given a coat to hide all that chunky metal surrounding their bodies ;)
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/1667.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/1773.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)
Also, HeroClix/HorrorClix is always a treasure trove of cool miniatures.
Hasslefree has the Grymm
(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/g307.jpg]http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/g307.jpg)
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Some of the Forgefather "Brokkr's" from the Deadzone game by Mantic are unarmored.
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/3830.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/3840.1.1000.1000.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)
Dwarf on a bike! That's so Shadowrun!
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These last ones are very compatible ! I especially like the biker and the "rigger" (drone controller). Perfect match.
For what I know, Mantic minis size will be good also !
Thanks
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By the way, is there any (cheap) shadowrun compatible civilian range you would suggest ? Again, more on the smallest side of 28mm.
I'm also searching for cheap vehicles. The official range has nice bikes, EM4 also I believe.
thanks
edit : making my own research I found that GZG have a lot of suitable 25mm figures too !
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Concerning the size, I don't own any hasslefree minis, I was just referring to the photos with the ruler in the background, these specific minis appears to be 35mm tall, bigger than 28mm scale (which I personally consider "heroic" when the eyes are at 28mm height, and "true" when the overal human sized mini measure 28mm to top of the head) ?
I have seen this comment before. People seem to forget, and not saying you my friend, think that just because a mini is taller than 28mm it is not 28mm scale. Being 35mm tall the mini might reference a really big dude. Again i am just pointing this out for future readers.
Grimm
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Well in that case always remember
"Watch your back, shoot straight, conserve ammo, and never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon."
And avoid anyone called drake....
Man your just bringing back memories of great days of gaming in the mid-late 80's. 86 - 87 was a great year for new games played. Though initially i was going to play a ganger named Cut-Her i reevaluated and joined the corporate world as a no nonsense company man getting the odd job completed where and when needed. :-)
Grimm
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http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/07/makeup/374929/
some cool ideas for anti-facial recognition face paint, and hair dues.
http://cvdazzle.com/
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By the way, is there any (cheap) shadowrun compatible civilian range you would suggest ? Again, more on the smallest side of 28mm.
I'm also searching for cheap vehicles. The official range has nice bikes, EM4 also I believe.
thanks
edit : making my own research I found that GZG have a lot of suitable 25mm figures too !
I think the Spacelords range has some excellent models as Shadowrun civvies:
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/CannonOlympus01/Games%20and%20Miniatures/Spacelords/3720a2_zps94e01397.jpg)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/CannonOlympus01/Games%20and%20Miniatures/Spacelords/3720b2_zpsadd1675b.jpg)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/CannonOlympus01/Games%20and%20Miniatures/Spacelords/3701_zps327a0c24.jpg)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/CannonOlympus01/Games%20and%20Miniatures/Spacelords/3706_zpsf4ac3c4a.jpg)
Link:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=68351.0
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Cool miniatures ! I like EM4 services too, so it's double win ! :D I'll see what is available.
I have seen this comment before. People seem to forget, and not saying you my friend, think that just because a mini is taller than 28mm it is not 28mm scale. Being 35mm tall the mini might reference a really big dude. Again i am just pointing this out for future readers.
I guess it all depands of what you like. Some people will prefer some kind of uniformity, consistency in their collection, and will try to find minis of same size and style. Some of them will even keep one unique brand or sculptor. Other guys mix any minis of any size with no problem.
I'm a bit between these 2 sides. I usually mix brands and sizes, but in Shadowrun there is several metahuman races, I thought it would be easier to identify them on the game table if the sizes are pretty accurate.
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The Mega Miniatures (now defunct) line of 20 civilians were pretty cheap and would right in. they are contemporary, but the SR art, especially in the earlier editions, depicted normal people as... normal people :)
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Yes, I remember, but as far as I know, they are not available anymore, anywhere.
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Last (I hope) question : how big are the grenadier official figures, compared to ral partha ? Similar ? Smaller ?
thanks
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Last (I hope) question : how big are the grenadier official figures, compared to ral partha ? Similar ? Smaller ?
thanks
Which "official" figures. Aren't the official Shadowrun figures made by Ral Partha?
Also, of note, it looks like IWM is having a sale on Shadowrun right now.
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Grenadier also made official shadowrun minis ;)
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Grenadier also made official shadowrun minis ;)
Well dont that beat all, Grenadier did make SR minis. :-)
Grimm
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I just received my 3rd edition book ! I also made some sorting in my miniatures collection, I'll show you that later today. For what I see, I will need some thugs, male gangers, and also specific race characters (dwarfs, trolls, orcs, elves) since my collection is composed of humans only.
Now I'll make my minis shopping list ! I'll keep you informed.
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Here's the pics !
The book is in really good shape, and in french. Even if I can read english, I prefer french for RPGs and novels, it's the best to taste the writing style of the authors. I'm not good enough in english for that.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270255_zps7479fb1f.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270255_zps7479fb1f.jpg.html)
I made a first sorting in my shadowrun compatible minis. Mostly Urban war and necromunda. I kept only the minis wich were "generic" enough, or easily customizable.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270261_zps34d56314.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270261_zps34d56314.jpg.html)
I kept the other ones for other projects (cyberpunk?). for example, I have a complete squad of human shaped droids, but as far as I know ( I didn't finish to read the rulebook), there is no artificial creatures in Shadowrun, correct me if I'm wrong ?
I also found an old heroscape plastic generic dragon. It will be perfect once customized for shadowrun dragons. I saw some graphic art representing this kind of dragon in shadowrun universe. Imagine for example a base with computers, instead of the classic pile of coins, treasures and rocks.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270258_zps1c32ba4b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/P9270258_zps1c32ba4b.jpg.html)
Last but not least, I ordered a lot of official minis, to fill the gaps where "generic" figs can't help : riggers (connected drones pilots), deckers (wired hackers, in 2060 setup at least), scifi dwarfs (of the correct size, 1.20m in shadowrun), scifi trolls (I will have 5 of them, even a female troll !!!), scifi orcs, etc...
I especially like the trolls, so "larger than life", so old school too !
In the mean time, waiting for the delivery, I'll finish my current projects (10mm dwarf army, and nordic fantasy adventurer), and if I have enough free time, start to work on the "generic" unofficial minis :
I will modify the weapons for better universe accuracy, modify the faces to represent the diferent races (taller minis will be elves, bulky ones will become orcs, etc...).
I also bought a lot of MDF 3mm sheet, to base all the scenery. I also bought LEDs lighting, and clear acrylic sheet to simulate all the typical 80's vision of the future neon lights.
I'll create topics for all this stuff !
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Now I can tell you what is the best source for shadowrun minis : the official Ral Partha range :D
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/PA080406_zps023ed4e4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/PA080406_zps023ed4e4.jpg.html)
I'll post soon pics (and comparison with other brands), and you'll see how nice are these figures :-*
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Can't go wrong with those. I've got a few "original" Shadowrun figs. Both from the original Ral Parth in the USA and a couple from IWM and they are quite nice. A few are a bit smaller (25-27 to the eye) than contemporary figs but not all and the sculpts tend to be great.
Looking forward to your review and painting.
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I agree !
The minis I bought are definitly compatible with the minis I was planning to mix with. I'll post pics tonight.
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Here's a few pics. i'll post more tommorow.
Size comparison (urban war in the middle) :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090436_zpsa4bfb56e.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090436_zpsa4bfb56e.jpg.html)
urbanwar, shadowrun, necromunda :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090418_zps6192a5f3.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090418_zps6192a5f3.jpg.html)
Some of the minis (3 of them I believe) are directly inspired by original artwork of the rulebook (3rd ed) :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA080414_zps5f3923ce.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA080414_zps5f3923ce.jpg.html)
The dwarfs. The best of the ral partha shadowrun range, in my opinion :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090478_zps5dfd1a4b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090478_zps5dfd1a4b.jpg.html)
Two mercenaries/sams and a rigger.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090463_zpsd0be23f4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090463_zpsd0be23f4.jpg.html)
An elven group. As you can see, sizes can differ even in the same blister. Like in real life. SOme of the characters doesn't show their elven ears, so you can use them as humans with no problem.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090472_zps0e1261d5.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090472_zps0e1261d5.jpg.html)
Group pic to show you all most common races of shadowrun universe. Trolls, orcs, elves, dwarfs :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090487_zpsb8b3f123.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090487_zpsb8b3f123.jpg.html)
Some bad guys (ghoul shaman -I guess-, a cyberzombie -someone who went too far in cyberenhancement, I believe- and a vampire)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090493_zps2300f16b.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA090493_zps2300f16b.jpg.html)
Basically, the size is very compatible with my 90's minis from other brands. The major diference is that all characters are not on steroids, like most common fantasy or scifi minis available. Some are bulky and muscled (close combat street samourais, trolls, orcs), but other ones are slim (riggers, deckers, ranged combat specialists).
In the whole set I bought (about 20minis), there is only 2 figures wich are a bit out of scale. A woman (too thin and small) and a dwarf (too big). But it's not big deal, since womans size vary a lot, and because the heads and hands are barely the same size.
The "good" dwarfs (according to the official background, dwarfs are about 120cm) are really nice, in the same style fantasy ral partha dwarfs are, and in good scale.
The trolls and orcs are big, just the way they have to be. Some of the elves I have are a bit small (in the official background, they are as big as the orcs), but they can be used as humans, and doing this, they are perfectly sized.
In one word, I'd say that even for people being a bit concerned (but not too much lol) about minis scale and size matching, they are pretty nice, and mix well with any "true" 28mm miniatures.
Tommorow I'll add new pics to show you the other minis I bought
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Neat! I've not seen any of those before. Would it be helpful to you if I put up scale pics of the few I've got? I think I have 2 painted and two unpainted.
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I don't plan to buy new figures soon, but some new references pics will be usefull later (and for other people), yes.
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Oooooooooooooooh crap, I didn't want to see that. Don't want to start up a new project...
But DAAAAAMN that looks hot.
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I'll post new pics this afternoon, it will help you to not resist lol
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Here's some size comparison shots for the figs I've got. The IG trooper is exactly 28mm sole to eye, so as you can see, the humans are spot on for 28mm in terms of height, they're just very realistically proportioned as one would expect from Ral Partha.
Three painted ones. Nothing fancy. Mostly Block colors and dip.
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/10/9/653509_sm-.JPG) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/653509-.html)
I highly recommend the "Proxie Models" 25mm (or 30mm for bigger) bases for models with cast-on bases. They are about 1.5mm thick which is about half as thick as a GW slotta and they have a slight indent in the top. This makes it really easy to blend the cast-on bases into the plastic base and it will put the sole of most figs at about the same height as figures based on regular slottas.
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/10/9/653510_sm-.JPG) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/653510-.html)
4 more mostly unpainted. I'll finish them someday. All of these have their soles at just about the same level.
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/10/9/653477_sm-.JPG) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/653477-.html)
I got some of these a very, very long time ago at my FLGS and the more recent ones from Little Wars Paint-and-Take's. If anyone can identify them for me, that would be great!
I'd kind of forgotten just how well done these figs were. Now that I'm looking at them again, I think it may be time to paint them up and maybe get some more!
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Some of your minis seems significantly small, right ?
I'm thinking of the figs on last pic (except last on right). I'm wondering if it would be Grenadier instead of Ral Partha ???
Concerning the bases, I choosed the hard way, I base almost everything I have on washers, now. So I'll have a lot of work on the RP minis !
edit : the last pic you posted is composed of grenadier figures, according to this website :
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/grenadier/images/1303.jpg
"1303 metahuman gang" blister pack
Personaly, I hope to find this pack one day :
http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Image:RP-Shadowrun-20-511.jpg
:-*
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You're right! I pulled the bases off the other three and they are all Grenadier! Despite the half-paint job obscuring it, they are actually quite well sculpted.
Are you going to remove the integral bases before gluing them to washers?
I think if IWM is at Little Wars this year I'll pick up another Shadowrun fig or two just for fun.
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I think I'll sand the integral bases with 80grit car washable sandpaper so I can adjust the size on the bases. So depanding the mini, the integral base will be completly removed, or slightly sanded. ;)
I prepared some washers tonight, tommorow I'll start basing.
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All the minis are based now !
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140521_zps9861580f.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140521_zps9861580f.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140524_zpse4b8b425.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140524_zpse4b8b425.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140527_zpsb45a016e.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140527_zpsb45a016e.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140530_zps872cf7bc.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140530_zps872cf7bc.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140533_zpsd5f26111.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140533_zpsd5f26111.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140536_zpsa1dea4f4.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140536_zpsa1dea4f4.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140539_zpsac071cba.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140539_zpsac071cba.jpg.html)
I also made a few corrections and conversions (drone, female troll, samourai). A few multipart figures too.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140509_zps2d0a1530.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140509_zps2d0a1530.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140512_zps3fb59e5c.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140512_zps3fb59e5c.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140500_zpsc1486cda.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140500_zpsc1486cda.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140497_zps5d319d83.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140497_zps5d319d83.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140515_zps468b9784.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/shadowpunk%20minis/PA140515_zps468b9784.jpg.html)
Next time I'll create a topic for the work in progress painting !
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Looking good! Can't wait to see these painted up.
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I hope to start painting this week end. I still have to prepare the minis and put some primer coat on them.
I will also start thinking about scenery ! I also have some other scenery projects to complete in the same time (scenery for 28mm zombies, scenery for 20 modern afghanistan, some fantasy 28mm scenery, and some dungeon furniture. Not speaking of the gaming mats I started and I will have to sell soon. I realize that I almost not posted anything concerning scenery here, except a few cork buildings and some heroscape detailled hexes.
I hope to finally start gaming regularly on next holidays ! I'd like to play at least 1 week end/month (solo campaigns), and other week ends, continue my modelling projects (sculpting, painting, scenery).
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That guy with the cannon mount is awesome.
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This is a "cyber zombie", wich according to Shadowrun background, is a creation made of a metahuman heavily modified by cybertechnology and magic. The purpose is obviously to create some kind of enhanced super soldier.
The metahuman is technically dead, but his soul is caught inside the modified cybernetic body by complex secret magical rituals. A "normal" metahuman can handle a limited amount of cyber enhancements : a cyberzombie can go far beyond these limits.
This kind of creature is very rare and expensive in the shadowrun universe. It's also very difficult to maintain them alive and effective.
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I just had a new idea : I first created this topic to find small scale "shadowpunk" suitable miniatures.
I wanted small minis to be able to create credible scale cities. But I really like 25-28mm minis, and already had a lot of them available. So I bought official shadowrun minis. Great for painting, details, and skirmish. But creating big enough city blocks for this kind of game in 28mm will be time (and maybe money) consuming, not speaking of the storage and table size. And imagine if you make your buildings with detailled interiors....I would probably play my first games when I will be retired (and I'm only 35 lol).
The same problem occured wit super heroes. I sold my 32mm minis, wanting to go in 15mm or small, to be able to create big scenery. But I really like painting and customizing big scale supers and villains.
So I thought about computer MMORPGs games. Most of the time, there is a main persistent big world, with all other NPC and player characters, and missions are played in instanced aeras, sometimes randomized, where only your player character and his team were there, fighting in "dungeons" (no matter it's scifi or fantasy, it's about the same mechanics) until they complete the mission and kill the boss.
I believe it could be done in miniatures. Imagine a big 3X3' table, in 6, 10 or 15mm. Buildings are "plain", you cannot visit them. You play with small scale figurines on this table around or on top of sky scrappers, lurking in streets. And once the scenario offers you a new mission, you "enter" a building, and then you play on a generic tileset scenery, with detailled 28mm minis.
This way, I will just create ONE interior building tileset (in the same way I created my fantasy 3d dungeon), and you can create realistic 3' high buildings to fight your super heroes on it, fight crime with your street judges, or brawl with gangs during a run in shadows of the darkest streets.
It should be both a time gain, but also more playbility and more possibilities concerning modelling, painting and gaming.
What do you think about this idea ?
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What about just doing "compressed" buildings in 28mm scale and when your characters enter a building, the floorplan of the building can be much bigger than the actual building on the tabletop?
Buildings like this..
(http://www.jlopatin.com/pictures/2013/04-27-13littlewars/photos/P4273662.jpg)
are made from plastic DVD crates that can be found at the dollar store. Clearly they're not actually big enough to be real big buildings, but they get the idea across, and you can fit quite alot of them on one small table. They're lightweight so I just put each one in a grocery bag, nest one sideways inside another and then put them all in a big blue IKEA bag that I hang from the celing of my work space.
You can't cover nearly as much ground as in a smaller scale, but they're dead cheap, and you also end up with a set of fairly generic buildings that are useful in many settings. Also, you don't have to paint up your figs in multiple scales.
One last note, if you paint them be sure to use a specialized plastic-bonding paint such as Krylon "Fusion" (their Camo line is also "made with Fusion Technolgy").
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Seems like a really neat way and perfect for Shadowrun. So small scale to go through the streets and 'normal scale' to do runs in buildings? Nice.
For the small scale the paper buildings and floor tiles from Dropzone Commander are *perfect*. This one:
http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/dropzone-commander-cityscape-terrain-pack&search=cityscape
I have these myself for my Pacific Rim game. The cardboard is printed at high resolution on thick card and looks ace. I mounted the cityscape tiles on 1m foamcore strips (3 tiles in a row, so 3'x 1' on 6 strips). This way, the cityscape is fixed, but can be changed in design. The buildings are all seperate. And assembly goes fast! You could do everything on a dedicated hobby evening.
For the insides you could use a LOT of games...Sedition Wars, Space Hulk, MERCs, Worldworks, etc. And for Cyberspace you can use the tiles I made for Cyber Alley (http://paintoholic.nl/cyberalley/cyberspace4.pdf). These were inspired by the new Shadowrun Returns games, so should fit the look ;)
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Thank you for the help !
For the urban scenery, I will go with homemade, scratch build scenery. But I really like your idea for cyberspace !
I think I'll go for something "hybrid" between print and play scenery and scratchbuild scenery, for the cyberspace/matrix. Maybe printing something similar to your PDF (or maybe ask you for the original matrix pattern you created lol), and glue it under some clear acrylic. Or print it on photopaper, then glue it on MDF and finish with laminated clear coating.
Thanks for the ideas ! Now back to the topic's beginning, I have to find small scale figures matching the big ones I bought ! In a way, it's simplier now, since I have the original 28mm to compare !
@Ellif : your crate scenery is pretty cool, but for my project I will need to create really large buildings (refering to judge dredd or shadowrun artwork cities). Since my gaming table is about 100x100cms, you can imagine that the city block I could create on this aera will be pretty limited...
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Following your idea, I'm currently looking for paper scenery, there is some impressive stuff available :o
Printed on mate or satin photo paper, it would be nice looking I bet !
I will made some research to see if paper building is really time and money saving (if you try to print and build as best you can).
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New "no content" update lol (but it helps me organizing my ideas and keep them somewhere, since I don't own a wargame blog).
I finally don't think I'll go for 15mm big city for now. The reasons are the following :
It will be a too big project. Even in 15mm, a scifi city stays a urban city. Filling a 100x100cm table with interesting buildings, skyscrappers, highways, subway, etc... will take ages.
It will be too complex : I recently bought a good amount of shadowrun minis, not speaking ot the other near future minis I have (urban war, necromunda, mutant chronicles warzone). If I have to find (or convert) each 15mm matching each big one, not speaking of the civilians, police, etc... I will need in the city, it will take ages to complete too.
It maybe doesn't worth it, as a solo gamer. Since I'm a solo gamer, I need simple structures, to manage the opponent behaviour. Thinking of movement in 3D will add more complexity to my games, and not necessary more fun.
I recently discovered this blog :
http://tinysolitarysoldiers.blogspot.fr/
This guy is experienced in solo gaming, and his way of thinking is very eficient, in my opinion. He paints nice figures, play on nice boards, but we can see that he thought about solo playability.
Take a look of this scifi board :
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wWghmnYfsZA/VAGJm4WgN1I/AAAAAAAABwc/fQh8ila_QxE/s1600/IMG_3682.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ubHyNHIQfA/VAL1oNCFXVI/AAAAAAAABxw/nCKKhqeecrY/s1600/IMG_3736.JPG
It can be used as urban scenery, warehouse, or even a big starship or space station. The result is gorgeous, but keeping the project "humble" enough to allow great playability, a lot of possibilites of games, and probably all of this has been done in a "realistic" amount of time.
In one word, this man understood everything, and is my new solo gaming Hero. :D
So I will soon come back in 28mm, with modular all purpose scifi boards ;)
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I recently discovered this blog :
http://tinysolitarysoldiers.blogspot.fr/
This guy is experienced in solo gaming, and his way of thinking is very eficient, in my opinion. He paints nice figures, play on nice boards, but we can see that he thought about solo playability.
Thank you for the link. This is a really great blog.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wWghmnYfsZA/VAGJm4WgN1I/AAAAAAAABwc/fQh8ila_QxE/s1600/IMG_3682.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ubHyNHIQfA/VAL1oNCFXVI/AAAAAAAABxw/nCKKhqeecrY/s1600/IMG_3736.JPG
I love the contained boards he makes. Whether it's modules/tiles he can rotate around or drop terrain:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9HyB0PiyeBo/UE_3cNkiyMI/AAAAAAAAA7A/4o7LI-5teU4/s1600/IMG_2945.JPG)
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Yes, his games always look good ! He has a lot of good ideas. He also reused some old urban war plastic scenery to make scifi dungeon tiles.
He's also speaking of interesting minis and rulesets. A great blog for sure !
Once I will have complete my afghan scenery set, I'll start my scifi board.
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This project is very good. I never played Shadowrun, we were Cyberpunk players instead but I like the collection of figures so far. And this...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wWghmnYfsZA/VAGJm4WgN1I/AAAAAAAABwc/fQh8ila_QxE/s1600/IMG_3682.JPG)
Is exactly what I needed for the solo boards in Anarchy Offline so I'm off to make some rooms right now.
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Spot the d20! ;D
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Is exactly what I needed for the solo boards in Anarchy Offline so I'm off to make some rooms right now.
That's exactly what I thought for my own games. In fact I believe this guy invented the perfect urban/starship/scifi-dungeon modular system :-*
I'm wondering if he's a LAF member. I'll contact him (or let a comment on his blog) to congrat him and give him the link to see how his work is impressive for some of us :D
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Thanks for the link to the blog! The Five Parsecs from Home system really sounds interesting for a fun game! Will keep this in mind as an alternate system for my Cyberpunk table.
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I should start this new project next week ;)
For now I'm finishing some modern afghanistan projects.