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Title: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Elbows on 27 September 2014, 10:58:04 PM
So, I'm about begin play-testing some SnS expansions involving 7th Cavalry etc.  I'm looking for recommendations on good gatling guns, or cavalry howitzers/cannons.  Any suggestions? 28mm scale please.
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 28 September 2014, 12:32:38 AM
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1049
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Elbows on 28 September 2014, 12:57:35 AM
Looks okay, how does it scale?
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 28 September 2014, 08:36:59 AM
It's 28mm, what are you using for your 7th cav?
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Elbows on 28 September 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Probably Foundry/DMH or Galloping Major, not sure.  As long as they're not proper 25mm I should be fine.  Any other options?
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 29 September 2014, 09:44:34 AM
Well Artizan also does 7th cav and it's the same sculptor who did most of the Foundry cowboys. DMH are a bit bigger but not Black Scorpion bigger.

For Howitzer and potentially the cannon, the Perry ACW artillery box will probably do the job. The crew are a bit slighter than Foundry/Artizan but not massively so. Would stand out more next to DMH. Available from a vast number of places but this is the link to their site:
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3015&osCsid=1cjd27kk9cqkld30jneofelaf1

There is also Tiger Miniatures, slightly later in time but some of the guns would probably still work (not the colt MG's though). Sculpts aren't as good as the others but they paint up okay.
http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page9.htm
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: psyberwyche on 29 September 2014, 03:44:21 PM
Artizan scale well with the larger (Copplestone) Foundry. Definitely 28mm - I have it, and it doesn't look out of place next to large Foundry or even Old Glory.
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Tommy20 on 30 September 2014, 04:52:45 AM
"Cavalry cannon"?  ???

I think the only artillery you'd likely find in use in the old west would be a 12 pdr mountain howitzer.  As mentioned , the Perry plastic arty box can be used to make a battery of three (including limbers, but no teams).

As for Gatlings, Askari makes a beautiful Gatling gun, but it doesn't have the distinctive doughnut magazine.  I've only seen the coffee can magazine type in 28mm.

Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Elbows on 30 September 2014, 05:21:10 AM
Yep.  Cavalry cannons.   lol

Field guns...used by the U.S. Cavalry. 
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Tommy20 on 30 September 2014, 05:27:19 AM
Field guns...used by the U.S. Cavalry. 
That would be the U.S. Artillery...  There was also a lot of infantry in the old west as well.  They just weren't featured in as many John Ford movies.
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Elbows on 30 September 2014, 05:37:58 AM
So they never had gun detachments which traveled with the cavalry? (not on normal patrols, but on long marches, deployments etc.). 
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: Tommy20 on 30 September 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Rarely, but if they did, it would have been an artillery unit attached to the cavalry. The tactics used by the Native Americans rendered artillery largely ineffective (no mass targets to shoot at).  They were usually just used as saluting guns at the outposts.

None of this is to say you shouldn't include them in the game!  I was just being a pedant about the wording...
Title: Re: Good gatlings or cavalry cannons?
Post by: psyberwyche on 30 September 2014, 02:53:17 PM
US cavalry definitely had gatling guns at their disposal, with limbers. Good article here about Custer's decision not to take them to the Little Big Horn:

http://artillerymanmagazine.com/Archives/2000/custer_Su00.html