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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: V on 01 October 2014, 06:50:50 PM
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Be rude not to show it here...
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Awesome
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That is sexy shit. Me want.
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Neat...but I'll say it: that's a lot of parts.
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Neat...but I'll say it: that's a lot of parts.
Got to agree - the blue one's in 15 bits!
I've put together tank kits with less parts....
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That's the price you pay to compensate for the lack of undercuts.
And even so, they'll be remarkable worse than the resin ones.
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Ohhh! Me likey a lot!! :-* :-*
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Oh my :o
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Ohhh! Me likey a lot!! :-* :-*
Predators on the moon??? ;)
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My biggest beef with stuff like this is simple...sprue-joins. Or whatever you choose to call them. But look at each of those tiny parts. They'll probably be held in place by a rather chunky bit of plastic sprue, meaning a large sprue-join you'll be cutting/sanding/minimizing. I don't mind 3-4 pieces for a figure, but that looks like a nightmare (one I'm about to encounter with the Robotech plastic models as well...sigh).
I could go through with it for the sake of a single Predator but the marines/aliens damn well better not be 15 pieces a pop. I didn't get in on this KS but I'm a potential future customer, and I'll have to see some good reviews of these to get me over the hump of my initial reaction. :)
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I don't mind the number of parts one bit, it's not like you'll be needing them in multiple squads of 10. Space marine models are in 10 pieces (not counting the extra pouches and grenades and bits you can add) but somehow get assembled into armies with dozens on the board all the time. Same for the Dreamforge stormtroopers. Two of these models are 11 pieces, but 2 of those are optional trophies. Casting them this way gets the model near the level of detail as metal & resin, but without the problems of metal and resin. Honestly, an extra 10-20 minutes clipping and cleaning is a fine price to pay for me for a nicer model in my preferred material.
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Not really a straight out of the box game is it? Also the amount of joins aren't going to look great. Red has 3 parts to his head!
All in all they look great though.
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Predators on the moon??? ;)
Sounds like a plan! ;).....although I think there might be fights over who gets the Preds!
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I haven't seen the xenos yet but even if they are very multi part it must be easier than cutting the extra arms off a GW genestealer and making back tubes out of them, which was what I was doing!
These can't be too far off delivery?
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I have to admit I like these a lot and hopefully the xenos will be just as good as ill certainly add some to my miniature collection :D
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I should...as I do all of my skeptical initial thoughts: I truly hope to be proved completely wrong, lol.
I would love for these to clip up nice and clean, assemble easily and look fantastic. I'll just be holding my breath till I see some real life reviews. ;)
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I haven't seen the xenos yet but even if they are very multi part it must be easier than cutting the extra arms off a GW genestealer and making back tubes out of them, which was what I was doing!
These can't be too far off delivery?
This is the 3D work which will be used to create the tool for injection molding of the hard plastic aka the retail minatures and has nothing to do with the KS miniatures (resin).
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This is the 3D work which will be used to create the tool for injection molding of the hard plastic aka the retail minatures and has nothing to do with the KS miniatures (resin).
You know I quite forgot that the Kickstarter minis were resin!
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You know I quite forgot that the Kickstarter minis were resin!
Yeah, when I saw this thread, I did too. Only when starting to type my reply I recollected that fact...
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Indeed. These look very nice. 8)
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Regarding small/fiddly bits, it's really just the 3-part head, 2 of which are hair, that seems unnecessary, to me. The other very small parts appear to be extra skulls and whatnot.
What bugs me a bit is that, as far as I can tell, the blue legs/torso parts can't intermingle with the yellow or red, and I can't tell how easily the yellow/red parts would mix. I assume you can fit any of the three bodies with whichever heads and arms you like, although some look like they might be a bit awkward, but if the torsos/legs aren't designed to mix and match, why have them in so many parts in the first place?
Oh well, whine whine whine, they look great anyways and I'll probably buckle and get some! :D
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I agree with Whitwort,
Multpart parts don't bother me. It's the way things are going, and folks who have started their gaming lives with GW in the past 15 years or so expect it.
What annoys me is that this many parts isn't going to result in nearly as much variability in pose as there could be.
-Why only one torso separate? They could all have been rotatable and interchangeable!
-Why do most of the legs meet in square pegs? They could have been on sockets!
That said, they are predators and aren't generally found in great numbers so differentiation isn't really the issue. I'm sure the final product will look quite good and make many AVP fans happy.
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As much as I like them, these were supposed to be the One Piece castings for the retail release of the board game.
Providing those sprues in the retail version is going to kill sales among the very large board game market, and that does not bode well for the game doing well and being expanded.
I think Prodos is shooting themselves in the foot here. Miniature gamers/modelers will be okay with this, but I think Fox was expecting to get more out of the license in the board game market.
We'll see.
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Don't know if this is the case but perhaps Prodos were only showing us the sprues that were being produce and they'll be pre-assembled for the boxed game (Mantic has done pre-assemble for Mars Attacks, different I know but still worth noting) as that's what tehy'll need to be to appeal in any way to the board gamers otherwise it'll be a miniatures game for us hobbyists only.
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Asking for pre-assembly with that many pieces per figure seems a recipe for very poorly assembled figures in the box, and a higher price point. I don't see it happening, though we don't really know yet.
I'll likely have enough resin figures if/when they finally deliver on the KS pledges, but can see buying a retail version of the game to have figures (even if they need assembly) that will stand up to play with younger kids better than the resin is likely to do. They will be fun to help my daughter assemble and then let her paint up so we can play.
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Asking for pre-assembly with that many pieces per figure seems a recipe for very poorly assembled figures in the box, and a higher price point. I don't see it happening, though we don't really know yet.
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If you intend to assemble these for retail, then why cast more pieces then needed? (considering you need more material for both pieces and larger sprues as well as more work on the tool...)
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I think the copplstone ones look nicer
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I love the Copplestone and Heresy versions...there are also the 'a little pricey' but exquisite Predatorp...one example here.............
(http://predastore.ch/39-176-thickbox/chasing-hunter-.jpg)
http://predastore.ch/lang-en/11-kits-28-mm (http://predastore.ch/lang-en/11-kits-28-mm)
I do hope these are released a separate from a boxed game.....I will certainly jump on them to add to the plastic mountain.
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I didn't realize there were so many options out there for Predator figures. If I didn't have my converted HorrorClix figures already I can easily imagine looking at all of these with great interest!
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These will be sprued like this. For the boardgame, it was decided mutually by Prodos Games and Fox that it was important to ensure that quality is something that comes through the whole project. So, 1 piece models, or badly pre-assembled models, was not an option.
As for designing a multipart kit, we simply do not have the spare funds to invest in that and do it well. Someone said the bodies could have been interchangable etc, actually, no they couldn't. :P
Once these are available (a date we are not sure on), they will be in the Boxed Set and also available separately in 'squad boxes'.
Currently the only thing delaying the release and KS shipments of everything else is the approval of editorial from Fox. All the written material.
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Good luck with it Rob, I hope it will be a terrific success.
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I'm certainly looking forward to getting the xenos. I must stock up on black spray paint (the stuff from the Poundshop car section works a treat, by the way).