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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Arteis on 13 October 2014, 12:48:34 AM
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Just in the nick of time as I was finding myself with no more figures to paint, along came Perry Miniatures with their ‘British Intervention Force‘, a what-if range portraying British soldiers as they would likely have appeared had they intervened in the American Civil War.
What attracted me to this range was that they are perfect for British troops in the New Zealand Wars of the 1860s ... story continues here on my blog: http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/underway-again-painting-the-1860s-new-zealand-wars/ (http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/underway-again-painting-the-1860s-new-zealand-wars/)
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Looks like fun, my only criticism of the range is that it focuses on one part of the war, some more officers with the later revolvers and perhaps Von Tempsky would not go amiss.
In essence it's a different take on the Indian wars, I'd recommend with some changes the warhammer LOTOW rules which has options for campaign skirmish and much larger battles/sieges.
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Good tip on the Liquid Nails, I use 5 minute Araldite which probably works out to be much more expensive.
I'm looking forward to seeing these figures painted up.
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Great start Roly I managed to pick up the Ryan and Parham book on ebay laong with 20 Empress Maori who ahve been converted with head and weapon swaps.
On rules I am using This Very Ground which as stated is French Indian Wars but very similar. In fact have first game this weekend ;D
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The book in your blog looks excellent, unfortunately it's US$130 on this side of the Atlantic :(
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The book in your blog looks excellent, unfortunately it's US$130 on this side of the Atlantic :(
I know I was very lucky and picked it up on ebay together with 20 figures for £40 I couldnt beleive my luck, normally sell on Amazon for between £40-£60 on its own :o
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Clever idea, Arteis.
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Thanks for the comments, everyone. I'll keep you posted on how this project goes.
I occasionally see The Colonial NZ Wars on TradeMe www.trademe.co.nz (the NZ version of eBay), usually around the $60NZ mark.
I did get a spare copy really cheap on TradeMe recently, but I've already offered it to an overseas gamer who said he wanted it.
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Here's an update on this project so far - getting a good undercoat finish to assist the painting process:
http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/the-secret-of-black-undercoating/ (http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/the-secret-of-black-undercoating/)
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They look good enough to use with just the black & grey undercoat/primer, Roly.
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Good tip for us black undercoaters,thanks.
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That really does bring out the detail doesn't it. I'm very glad you're doing this, they are great miniatures and having seen your other stuff I'm sure you'll do them justice.
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The next steps in painting these figures have been completed. More info and pics here:
https://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/a-study-in-blue-british-for-the-colonial-nz-wars/ (https://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/a-study-in-blue-british-for-the-colonial-nz-wars/)
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Just in the nick of time as I was finding myself with no more figures to paint, along came Perry Miniatures with their ‘British Intervention Force‘, a what-if range portraying British soldiers as they would likely have appeared had they intervened in the American Civil War.
What attracted me to this range was that they are perfect for British troops in the New Zealand Wars of the 1860s ... story continues here on my blog: http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/underway-again-painting-the-1860s-new-zealand-wars/ (http://arteis.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/underway-again-painting-the-1860s-new-zealand-wars/)
i got the same idea when i saw them at Perry's site !
Going at CRISIS , i hope i won't make my Credit card burn .
I guess to use the new ganesha games rules on the French indian war with Maoris. I 'll be easily converted into this period.
instead i'll need a few blister, because the rules is a skirmish fast play based around a less than 20 figurines per side:player
if any interest go here :
http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_51&products_id=267&osCsid=6b5120g00q3qr7au2nmntpr4h6 (http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_51&products_id=267&osCsid=6b5120g00q3qr7au2nmntpr4h6)
Cheers
Eric
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Just seen a new range of Maori from Eureka. Exquisite figures with a variety of traditional weapons. There are some variants under way that will have etched tattoos . I'd say they'd be ideal matches with the Empress stuff.
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Just seen a new range of Maori from Eureka
That's interesting, Carlos. However, I can't see them on the Eureka website. Can you provide a link by any chance?
Eureka did do a small Maori range a few years ago. But those figures were more like true 25s, so didn't fit so well with the Eurekas. I just sold my old Eurekas the other day.
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Sorry Roly, They've only just been cast up this week, I was in at Eureka on Friday so I had a look at the new toys.
These are brand new 28mm sculpts (Alan Marsh I think) and definitely not the old Mike Broadbent ones. Not my period of particular interest but they were such nice figures I might pick one or two up for the hell of it. There's even a character figure, somewhat bigger than the rest, depicting Maui with his net dragging up New Zealand from the depths. The rest are a mix of warriors and chiefs with traditional weapons plus a bloke blowing a conch shell or maybe just smoking an enormous conch shaped spliff.
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I have seen these too. They are Alan Marsh sculpts, being very similar in style/size/quality/authenticity/wairua of the Empress ones.
They are on my list for those reasons and more.
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Very interesting - I'll keep my eyes out for them!
We've got a conch shell in our office where I work, which is used for welcome ceremonies. I've tried blowing it, but there is a real skill, and all I can produce is a rather insipid farting sound. When in the hands of someone who knows what he is doing, the sound is really impressive, like a ship's fog horn.
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Or a really good fart?!! lol
Very interesting - I'll keep my eyes out for them!
We've got a conch shell in our office where I work, which is used for welcome ceremonies. I've tried blowing it, but there is a real skill, and all I can produce is a rather insipid farting sound. When in the hands of someone who knows what he is doing, the sound is really impressive, like a ship's fog horn.
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Looking forward to seeing these minis and perhaps buying the odd one ;D
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Any updates Arteis? This is superb stuff and highly interesting!
Can't wait to see more.... going to make a Perry and Empress order very soon.
BTW, have you any pics of Maori in the 1870's? The reason I ask is that I think their attire would be more European than was the case in the 1850's(??).
Darrell.
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Are these sailors any good for the 1860's?
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And....
What would the Perry Mounted equivalent be for these OG mini's (If indeed there is an equivalent at present)?
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Are these sailors any good for the 1860's?
No, not really. Top hats on the officers are a bit out of fashion by then. Dress regulations had been brought in during the 1850s, and for the seamen the peakless cap became the standard wear (with a white linen cover for hot weather introduced in 1863) rather than those funny little tarred hats those figures have (wide-brimmed straw hats were also worn in hot climates). Jackets were regulation for cold weather but I think you'd be more likely to see seaman donning the familiar frock with the big blue collar with three white stripes.
Also, by the 1860s beards and moustaches were permitted. The 1860s were the decade of the ridiculous beard (although the decade we are in now is starting to rival it), so you'd want at least some of your men sporting them if you want that 1860s feel.
Having said all that, even though there were dress regulations by this time, they were also rather flagrantly ignored by all and sundry, and the untidy and non-uniform appearance of both officers and men was something the papers regularly got into a tizz about.
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Also, by the 1860s beards and moustaches were permitted. The 1860s were the decade of the ridiculous beard (although the decade we are in now is starting to rival it), so you'd want at least some of your men sporting them if you want that 1860s feel.
Having said all that, even though there were dress regulations by this time, they were also rather flagrantly ignored by all and sundry, and the untidy and non-uniform appearance of both officers and men was something the papers regularly got into a tizz about.
So, a bit of putty may be the answer? Not that I'm going down that route just yet..... just keeping it all min mind with the Perry releases mounting up.
Darrell.
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Yeah, I suppose. Those jackets and hats were still in evidence in the 1860s, but I feel more as best togs for when Her Majesty reviews the fleet at Spithead than for fighting ''orrible savages' in. I'd be happier with fellas in square rig with caps or sennet hats maybe, those guys look a bit old timey for me. But that's just a feeling, really. And beggars can't be choosers, I guess. Don't know what else I'd suggest instead, except perhaps something from an Indian Mutiny range (but hot weather stuff like neck-flaps and tropical helmets would be a problem then). I think if they had suitable beards and if you dumped the fellow with the top hat they'd just about do.
Oh, by the way, it was moustaches and beards. You had to have both or neither in the 1860s, keep them neat, and it was all at Captain's discretion. So if he didn't like beards you couldn't have one, whatever the regs said (which you could possibly give as an excuse for not bearding them up).
And don't ask me if that gun would be right. I know almost nothing about artillery. :)
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Yeah, I suppose. Those jackets and hats were still in evidence in the 1860s, but I feel more as best togs for when Her Majesty reviews the fleet at Spithead than for fighting ''orrible savages' in. I'd be happier with fellas in square rig with caps or sennet hats maybe, those guys look a bit old timey for me. But that's just a feeling, really. And beggars can't be choosers, I guess. Don't know what else I'd suggest instead, except perhaps something from an Indian Mutiny range (but hot weather stuff like neck-flaps and tropical helmets would be a problem then). I think if they had suitable beards and if you dumped the fellow with the top hat they'd just about do.
Oh, by the way, it was moustaches and beards. You had to have both or neither in the 1860s, keep them neat, and it was all at Captain's discretion. So if he didn't like beards you couldn't have one, whatever the regs said (which you could possibly give as an excuse for not bearding them up).[/
Thanks as per 8)
And don't ask me if that gun would be right. I know almost nothing about artillery. :)
I'd better keep my next question to myself then lol :)
Darrell.
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You are probably best off using the Foundry Indian Mutiny sailors in sennet hats. IIRC there might be some gun crew there too, I know there was a stonking great 64pdr gun. If not the naval gunners from their Crimea range would probably do the trick.
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Crimean naval gunners.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/crimean-war/british/crimean-war-british-gun-crews-collection-bccmb006/
Armed sailors.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/colonial/indian-mutiny/indian-mutiny-british-ghurkhas-and-highlanders-collection-bc/
Seems the Crimea range was the only one with naval gunners.
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The infantry look like they might suit Eureka Stockade as well.