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Title: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 10, 2008, 12:16:25 AM
Evening all,

Well I have started a Cthulhu to call my own. The body is that of a metal GW Balrog I picked up on eBay, sans head, tail and..... wings. This leads to a problem, I'm recently returned to the shenannigans of modeling and painting and dont feel I will do justice to the Great Deep Ones wings, so have you any Idea of suitable ones that are available cheaply?

Heres the Original model in its over the top form   lol

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/GWbalrog.jpg)

And heres what I have done with him so far for some perspective.....

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/Cthulhu1.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/Cthulhu2.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/Cthulhu3.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/Cthulhu4.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ardron1975/Cthulhu5.jpg)

I know that he needs alot more padding and to be built up, I always feel Cthulhu would have a good belly on him and a big arse (sounds a bit like me  :D ), all that deaming, would pile on the pounds of any Old God. This is just the first rough sculpt onto the frame.

So any ideas on wings that may be suitable? Or any suggestions, comments or advice are as ever greatfully recieved!

Been a great help so far this forum, so thanks in advance all!!
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Uncle Mike on September 10, 2008, 02:17:31 AM
Great idea! Can't wait to see it (him?) finished!  :-*
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Argonor on September 10, 2008, 07:32:53 AM
You want smaller wings, right? Try taking a look at some of the larger Heresy-demons (Andy has had his casting machine break down lately, otherwise you might have been lucky to make him cast up a set of your preferred wings  :?  )

Some battering/drilling to make the wings look putrefied could do the trick..?
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Uncle Mike on September 10, 2008, 04:26:10 PM
I think those balrog wings are pretty slick as they are...I'd use them, bend 'em in a little at most. Could drill out a couple holes in the bottoms for ratty look. You could also make his face tentacles bigger/longer to offset the huge wings?  Listen to some Dio...it may help... >:D
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: JollyBob on September 10, 2008, 04:43:39 PM
That is looking pretty slick right there, mate. Nice one.  :)

I did a bit of scouting on the GW Store for "Wings" and that gives you a few options. I think the Bloodthirster or Dragon wings would be best for what you need.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?WCI=Menu&WCE=Search

I've also emailed you a copy of the collector's and classics guide they have now they don't do the full archive range any more.

EDIT: No I haven't, it's too ruddy big to go as an attachment. Download it from the store instead, you lazy bugger.

There are some really nice old dragons in there that have become available again, and with your ebay skillz you may be able to find parts from them cheaper, same goes for the ones above.

Just a thought.

And how are you getting on with Cthulhu's mini-me, by the way? Any progress?
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: gauntman on September 10, 2008, 07:36:48 PM
You may not be this motivated but here is an incredible article for scratchbuilding your own wings.  This guys work is pretty amazing.

http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php (http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php)
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: P_Clapham on September 10, 2008, 10:42:07 PM
I second the suggestion of using the Balrogs existing wings.  It shouldn't be too hard to drill and desiccate them down.  Neat idea using the Balrog fig btw.  ;)
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 11, 2008, 12:27:39 AM
Wow!

Thanks all, believe it or not it only cost me £2.00 on eBay.... With another £2.00 P&P, it just cried out for a squid head to me!  ;D

I think those balrog wings are pretty slick as they are...I'd use them, bend 'em in a little at most. Could drill out a couple holes in the bottoms for ratty look. You could also make his face tentacles bigger/longer to offset the huge wings?  Listen to some Dio...it may help... >:D

Sadly the wings and the head were not part of the deal, but I have seen some cheap ones on the GW site, cheers Rob lad and Arrrggghhh, with appropriate arm movement. As for listening to Dio, not sure, perhaps some Rammstein?

You want smaller wings, right? Try taking a look at some of the larger Heresy-demons (Andy has had his casting machine break down lately, otherwise you might have been lucky to make him cast up a set of your preferred wings  :?  )

Think with the poor guys current problems hes got enough on his plate, I'll just buy some sculpting stuff from him instead. Thanks for the idea though.

And finally

That is looking pretty slick right there, mate. Nice one.  :)

And how are you getting on with Cthulhu's mini-me, by the way? Any progress?

Cheers lad  :D the mini Cthulhu, or the Not So Great Young One is coming along OK, just made him some moobs and a belly, as you do!

Thanks for the ideas all, all comments greatfully recieved, if the big lad works out well I may just post a load of WIP pics on here  ;)
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 11, 2008, 12:30:45 AM
Forgot to thank Guantman there....  :'(

You may not be this motivated but here is an incredible article for scratchbuilding your own wings.  This guys work is pretty amazing.

http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php (http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php)

Great site, never been on there, a huge amount of stuff I'll have to try someday, maybe when I'm a bit more skilled, so around 2053 maybe?  lol
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: twrchtrwyth on September 11, 2008, 04:58:55 PM
The Balrog wings are for sale here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warhammer-Lord-of-the-Rings-Balrog-spares-Wings-Whip_W0QQitemZ200252833621QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200252833621&_trkparms=72%3A12|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: dodge on September 11, 2008, 05:09:35 PM
That looks really good, I think some curved demon wings would look good. How are you going to do the tentacles?

 :D

Dodge
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 12, 2008, 08:28:15 PM
Thanks twrchtrwyth, for the wings link, got it on watch now.

That looks really good, I think some curved demon wings would look good. How are you going to do the tentacles?

 :D

Dodge

I quite like the idea of smaller, bat like wings as well, after all Cthulhu isn't renowned for his aerial skills, i always think of him/it/they/whatever as shambling along. As for the tentacles, I think I will use some wire and milliput to build them and then put a few suckers on with green stuff. Just going to have to be careful building them up, I want them to be nice and organic, not as perfect as you see on some Cthulhu's. He's getting on a bit, so he needs to look a bit battered and fresh from aeons under the sea.

Started building up his brow which has made him look like a demonic Daffy Duck at the moment, its almost tempting to make that instead   ;D

Think I will have to shorten his face a bit, what do you all think? Is he a bit like the Horse that went into a pub at the moment?  ???
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: JollyBob on September 12, 2008, 09:52:51 PM
I don't think you need to shorten the face, but maybe bulk out the back of the skull. It would give it more balance I feel. All the illustrations of t'Old Un I've seen have him with a geet big bulbous napper. (Like the one in the banner at the top of the page, really.)

If you keep it the size it is, when you put the tentacles on, it'd be like a giant, nekkid mind-flayer from D&D coming at you.

That's a bit wrong, mate.  lol
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 13, 2008, 12:45:56 AM
I don't think you need to shorten the face, but maybe bulk out the back of the skull. It would give it more balance I feel. All the illustrations of t'Old Un I've seen have him with a geet big bulbous napper. (Like the one in the banner at the top of the page, really.)

I've been bulking out its heed a bit tonight, but I think your right Bob of the Jolly, bulbous is the way forward! I will have to balance him out a bit all over though. Shame as I was quite proud of the belly sculpt, ah well.

Bulbous napper? Do you mean me or Cthulhu?

Hmmm wonder if I can find a suitable corpse for him to be waving about...  lol

Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 13, 2008, 12:29:24 PM
Danny,

what about these:

(http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=260540)

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120299017&orignav=9

£5.00, so not too bad for GW. Not sure on size, but almost certainly smaller than the Balrog's.

They look a bit more "Cthulhu-ish" to me, too  :)
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 13, 2008, 11:07:52 PM
Danny,

what about these:

£5.00, so not too bad for GW. Not sure on size, but almost certainly smaller than the Balrog's.

They look a bit more "Cthulhu-ish" to me, too  :)

Yeah  :-* , I do like those Gluteus, thanks very much. A bit of a battering a few holes and some seaweed and I think you may be on to something there. Very much how I see the big fella!

Just a shame GW are getting my money, I'd vowed never to go to them again after my only visit to a GW in 16 years, (smelt of odd children and sweat....) but I guess I'll relent this once!
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 14, 2008, 06:49:42 PM
Danny,

what about these:

£5.00, so not too bad for GW. Not sure on size, but almost certainly smaller than the Balrog's.

They look a bit more "Cthulhu-ish" to me, too  :)

Yeah  :-* , I do like those Gluteus, thanks very much. A bit of a battering a few holes and some seaweed and I think you may be on to something there. Very much how I see the big fella!

Just a shame GW are getting my money, I'd vowed never to go to them again after my only visit to a GW in 16 years, (smelt of odd children and sweat....) but I guess I'll relent this once!


Sadly you'll either have to get them to mail order to your address - and pay postage on top, or have them sent free of charge to your local GW. Either way, potentially painful, but if you send a trusty child in to pick them up, at least your nose won't be offended  lol

Being a parent, I'm used to these smells and the incessant whining and demands for your attention.....

I have seen them used to convert a non-GW figure and they looked quite snazzy, but I've no idea where I saw this marvel. I made a mental note of them , but forgot what figure they ended up on. Sad  :(
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Argonor on September 26, 2008, 11:39:51 AM
You probably got what you need by now, but I just saw these:

http://www.ultraforgeminiatures.com/wings.html

Nice big critters they have there, btw...  :D
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Uncle Mike on September 27, 2008, 04:31:17 PM
Just flipping thru the new 'Reaper' miniatures catalogue and they have a 4 pack of demon wings...no idea on size but they look pretty good.
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Danny the Chimp on September 28, 2008, 12:39:53 AM
Wow people are following a thread of mine.... I must be doing something right at last  :D

You probably got what you need by now, but I just saw these:

http://www.ultraforgeminiatures.com/wings.html

Nice big critters they have there, btw...  :D

Those are rather nice Argonor, if my current plan fails I think I may be tempted to buy them, but more on that in a minute.

Just flipping thru the new 'Reaper' miniatures catalogue and they have a 4 pack of demon wings...no idea on size but they look pretty good.

Cheers Uncie Mike, another one I'll have to have a look for.

You lot must be psychically attuned to all things lead, I'd not done anything on the big fella for ages, then started on him again last night. My Snotling Halfpipe, or Snotpipe if you will has been taking up quite a bit of time (it's almost done now, so will have to show it off else where on this here forum).

My current plan is to follow the advise in the link supplied by gauntman,

You may not be this motivated but here is an incredible article for scratchbuilding your own wings.  This guys work is pretty amazing.

http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php (http://www.necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php)

I ended up going back to this site from time to time and have decided to have a go at making my own wings. The first attempt was awful, but a good learning curve. I'm not used to just greenstuffing or milliputing onto a wire frame, but with the help of some handy fine gauge wire mesh and a mix of green and milli I think I may be able to knock up something half decent.

As for the rest of the big guy, he's coming along now, his head is bigger and the beak has reduced a bit, so no more demonic Daffy Duck (but its so tempting to make one of them now). Started on the tentacles, with more of said wire mesh rolled into tubes, seems to work kinda well.

I'll try and get some more WIP pics up tomorrow when I get a chance!

Once again thanks all for the ideas, they come in really handy to a reborn mini mutilator! If these next wings dont work, think I'll have to rely on the powers of the net commerce.
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Argonor on September 29, 2008, 07:59:55 PM
Wow people are following a thread of mine.... I must be doing something right at last

Yep... you signed up to the LAF!  ;)

You lot must be psychically attuned to all things lead,

Now, THERE'S a scary thought...  :o
Title: Re: Oh for the wings, for the wings of a Cthulhu......
Post by: Bako on September 29, 2008, 08:16:13 PM
No, no psycically, just with a lead detector. ;)