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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: scrivs on 30 December 2014, 11:26:38 PM

Title: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: scrivs on 30 December 2014, 11:26:38 PM
This evening James, Tom, Steve and myself refought the Battle of Bairén using Hail Caesar.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gd1lVuWxbKE/VKMtMKaqF9I/AAAAAAAANhE/PWVTWgIU_dA/s1600/DSCN0048.JPG)

The Moors held the high ground while El Cid and the Christians advanced along the coastline harassed by fire from the Berber fleet. 

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s0yswD3-mn0/VKMtSyCtKQI/AAAAAAAANjI/xK845DsBPSg/s1600/DSCN0063.JPG)

I took quite a few pictures of the game and these along with a short report are over on the Scrivsland blog over on the Scrivsland blog  (http://scrivsland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/battle-of-bairen-1097-using-hail-caesar.html)
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: Engel on 31 December 2014, 02:09:06 PM
Great looking game Paul.
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: MerlintheMad on 31 December 2014, 06:00:44 PM
I'm so confused. Is the Cid dead or merely unhorsed? You two need to get your details in harmony! As I said, great looking BIG game....
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: janner on 31 December 2014, 10:53:07 PM
Looking good  :D
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: TWD on 01 January 2015, 09:30:05 AM
I'm so confused. Is the Cid dead or merely unhorsed? You two need to get your details in harmony! As I said, great looking BIG game....
The rules said dead, but history says he lived another couple of years.
Unless he was strapped to his horse for ALL that time ( he'd probably be a bit smelly if that were the case).
:)
Tom
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 01 January 2015, 11:38:21 AM
Good stuff gentlemen
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: MerlintheMad on 01 January 2015, 04:30:29 PM
The rules said dead, but history says he lived another couple of years.
Unless he was strapped to his horse for ALL that time ( he'd probably be a bit smelly if that were the case).
:)
Tom
Thanks for clearing that up, now go clear it up on TMP! ;) (Oh, I see you already did.)

"Strapped to his horse", yeah, that one, again. As a kid I noticed that Chuck Heston's head moved, so that meant he was "mostly dead", but not all the way dead. So I insisted. Then years later I read that he was lord of Valencia for some years after taking the city, SO! he wasn't dead after all, just too weak to ride without falling off. And there you have it, the real history version....
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: huevans on 01 January 2015, 05:11:25 PM
IIRC, the Cid was a mercenary warlord who sold his sword to both Christian and Muslim employers. The image of him as an anti Muslim crusader was a Hollywood creation.
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: henryv on 01 January 2015, 06:17:29 PM
Looks an interesting battle my friends.
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: archiduque on 04 January 2015, 12:04:19 PM
Excellent!! :)
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: scrivs on 04 January 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Battle of Bairén 1097
Post by: James Morris on 05 January 2015, 10:41:03 PM
IIRC, the Cid was a mercenary warlord who sold his sword to both Christian and Muslim employers. The image of him as an anti Muslim crusader was a Hollywood creation.

You're absolutely right.  We had him fighting the Almoravids in this battle because, historically, he did fight the Almoravids in this battle.  He was cut off from riding up to safety in Valencia by a nifty Moorish forced march and had to fight his way through (with more success than myself and Steve, it has to be said.)

The vagary about him being dead is pretty accurate for this period, though I think in this case we can say we have two chroniclers with different versions of events! :)