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Title: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: smirnoff on 03 January 2015, 10:03:07 AM
Gents
With ‘The World’s First SWAT Unit’ winging its way to me be grateful if for views on the following as I have not really gamed Pulp (gamed BoB lots) :

Do most Pulp rules allow you to  do leader figures with supporting minions/police that work like a skirmish type games (leader plus 4 figs kinda thing)?

Are there any decent paper buildings out there that would work for 1920’s Shanghai (mix of European and Chinese building styles)?
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Poiter50 on 03 January 2015, 10:14:49 AM
You need to convince Bibbles to produce his Hong Kong 2 storey buildings on a commercial basis. He has some Chinese buildings but not shop types.

TVAG has some in his Mean Streets range. US based for Gangsters but parts may suit.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: commissarmoody on 03 January 2015, 10:38:20 AM
Check out these offerings from old glory.
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=586
And black army production does some stuff for a 1930s range set in Shanghai.
http://www.blackarmyproductions.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=category&layout=detail&cid=4&Itemid=207
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: d phipps on 03 January 2015, 11:00:19 AM
Do most Pulp rules allow you to  do leader figures with supporting minions/police that work like a skirmish type games (leader plus 4 figs kinda thing)?

Yes, that's how our Pulp Alley rules work. You can check out some of our battle reports at --- http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=54250.0


HAVE FUN
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: smirnoff on 03 January 2015, 01:41:35 PM
Thanks all
Various free pdfs downloaded
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: FramFramson on 03 January 2015, 05:32:00 PM
Gents
With ‘The World’s First SWAT Unit’ winging its way to me be grateful if for views on the following as I have not really gamed Pulp (gamed BoB lots) :

Do most Pulp rules allow you to  do leader figures with supporting minions/police that work like a skirmish type games (leader plus 4 figs kinda thing)?

Are there any decent paper buildings out there that would work for 1920’s Shanghai (mix of European and Chinese building styles)?

What minis are those, Smirnoff? That sounds pretty neat! Are you talking about the Black Army stuff (linked by commissarmoody)?
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: smirnoff on 03 January 2015, 05:49:03 PM
No Fram, I'm going to be using Copplestone figs from Mark's Chinese Warlord range; clothed blokes from BU13, Bergmanns with caps from BU12, Chinese Officers and a couple of the firing blokes from BU7 as the Sykes Snipers. No doubt I'll have a dabble on conversions but I generally don't with Mark's figures as they are so well done.
Got a rather nice bus from Lledo that will convert for the Red Mariah
Just need to work out how to create all those buildings......
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: FramFramson on 03 January 2015, 06:30:51 PM
What I wouldn't give for more Copplestone pulp-era figures. Oh for Copplestone Nazis! I even thought about trying to convert some using stahlhelms, but none of the bodies are close enough to wehrmacht uniforms.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: rumacara on 03 January 2015, 10:02:08 PM
Fram, check the ones from Black Tree Design.
They have wehrmacht infantry and they are easy to convert if needed (some even have some nice heads that look similar to copplestone).
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: FramFramson on 03 January 2015, 10:10:01 PM
Actually I'm pestering someone on the WWII boards to see if the Foundry line (which seems to be agreed on as the best quality of the lines which are still in print) is close enough in size to the Copplestone line. Here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=74154.0

My understanding is that almost all the extant WWII ranges are of older make, and are all on the small side, but maybe not?

Anyway, better to continue this discussion there instead of cluttering up Smirnoff's thread.

Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: crabking on 05 January 2015, 10:11:02 PM
And black army production does some stuff for a 1930s range set in Shanghai.
Black Army Production seems to be off duty. After long waiting, I got my money sent back via Paypal. It's a pity, they've got nice stuff.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: wolfen on 05 January 2015, 10:19:53 PM
Black Army Production seems to be off duty. After long waiting, I got my money sent back via Paypal. It's a pity, they've got nice stuff.

Uh-oh, cos I just ordered with them after seeing the link in this thread...
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: FramFramson on 05 January 2015, 11:55:46 PM
Dang! That stinks - they have some nice stuff.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: commissarmoody on 06 January 2015, 12:24:34 AM
That's lame, don't know why they are taking a break.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: aliensurfer on 08 January 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Black Army Production seems to be off duty. After long waiting, I got my money sent back via Paypal. It's a pity, they've got nice stuff

yeh but have you seen the shanghai cops at the bottom of the linked page? they are bad sculpts and the paint job doesn't help - the rest look ok, adequate enough sculpts.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Hammers on 08 January 2015, 03:47:06 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s08/r07/Hammers_ShanghaiJazzBand_LPLS8R07.jpg)
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: d phipps on 08 January 2015, 05:30:45 PM
Beautiful work!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Vanvlak on 08 January 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Wow, that's brilliant  :o 8) 8)
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: FramFramson on 08 January 2015, 05:44:38 PM
Whoa.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: gary42 on 08 January 2015, 05:49:35 PM
Crazy man!  Dig the beat!
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Duke Donald on 08 January 2015, 06:23:35 PM
Brilliant, if I stare for long enough at the picture, I start hearing music!
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Wolf Girl on 08 January 2015, 08:22:04 PM
That is so cool, Hammers!  :-* :-*

I really like how you did the sign, but the use of "Ms." in front of Willie's name seems an unsual choice to me. I'm no expert of course.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: TimK on 08 January 2015, 10:26:42 PM
the use of "Ms." in front of Willie's name seems an unsual choice

Certainly anachronistic for the 20s, Ms came with womens lib in the 60s, she would have definitely been Miss Willie Scott.

Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: warrenpeace on 09 January 2015, 01:26:53 AM
Smirnoff, Bob Murch would probably tell you how he scratch built his "China Station" buildings. If I recall correctly, he used corduroy material soaked in white glue for the curved roofs. There's an image from Trumpeter Salute (a Pacific Northwest convention) here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wirelizard/4437008783/

A lot of the buildings in Shanghai would have been much larger. In recent years I read some books and watched some movies that where set in Shanghai, including one book by Bartle Bull. Building some parts of old Shanghai would be a worthy project.

And check out the buildings in this LAF thread:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56250.0

Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: smirnoff on 09 January 2015, 05:25:56 AM
Thanks warrenbruhn
More I think about this the more I'm inclined to go the outskirts of Shanghai route...ghost market and port kind of thing.
More useful for other places.
The idea of doing the centre of the British settlement (colonial style office blocks/banks etc) would work with the Sarissa and 4ground stuff but I think I will avoid it.
That Bob Murch link is useful, thanks.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Wirelizard on 10 January 2015, 09:31:44 AM
Smirnoff, Bob Murch would probably tell you how he scratch built his "China Station" buildings. If I recall correctly, he used corduroy material soaked in white glue for the curved roofs. There's an image from Trumpeter Salute (a Pacific Northwest convention) here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wirelizard/4437008783/

A lot of the buildings in Shanghai would have been much larger. In recent years I read some books and watched some movies that where set in Shanghai, including one book by Bartle Bull. Building some parts of old Shanghai would be a worthy project.

And check out the buildings in this LAF thread:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56250.0



Hey, those links look familiar...  :D

Haven't yet wandered Shangai-ward in our pulp gaming, mostly because nobody's committed to doing Chinese gangs and other locals, but the Sarissa buildings would certainly suit for the European areas of the city, with some extra Chinese signs and such added for local flavour.

Bob Murch's China Station setup is amazing; two years ago he had a couple of new buildings in progress that he brought along to Trumpeter Salute - his level of craftsmanship is spectacular! His tile roofs are indeed corduroy material over a curved form of either card or carved/sanded styrofoam, hardened with white glue. They look great.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: gary42 on 10 January 2015, 08:50:43 PM
I'don't love to see Chinatown style roof add-ons for the Sarissa City Block buildings!
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Hammers on 12 January 2015, 08:10:35 AM
That is so cool, Hammers!  :-* :-*

I really like how you did the sign, but the use of "Ms." in front of Willie's name seems an unsual choice to me. I'm no expert of course.

You mean you think he/she is crossgender.


Check this out: http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Willie_Scott (http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Willie_Scott)

Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Hammers on 12 January 2015, 08:14:45 AM
Certainly anachronistic for the 20s, Ms came with womens lib in the 60s, she would have definitely been Miss Willie Scott.



Ah. You live and learn. A bit of editing is called for I believe.
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Ignatieff on 14 January 2015, 11:29:54 AM
There was a rumour that Empress were looking to do a Shanghai 1920s/30s range.  Now that would be good!
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: marianas_gamer on 14 January 2015, 12:05:06 PM
Empress Shanghai 1920/30s ?!?!  :o :o :o  Ooooh, I see a big :o big hole in my wallet!!
Title: Re: Shanghai 1920s
Post by: Earther on 14 January 2015, 12:16:02 PM
There was a rumour that Empress were looking to do a Shanghai 1920s/30s range.  Now that would be good!

Be still my beating heart!  :o

That would truly be a most acceptable development.  :D