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Title: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 05, 2015, 08:39:32 PM: Here's a WIP on a dismounted French Ordonnance Archer c.1505-1514, the inspiration was from the attached image and paintings depicting Louis XII's campaign in Genoa.

I used a Perry Foot MAA as my dolly and added WOTR longbowman arms then a lot of green stuff, patience was the word, I'm still getting used to this after a few years of ape like putty pushing but I'm fairly pleased with this one.

Stuart
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: painterman on January 05, 2015, 09:03:02 PM: Well, he works for me!
Looks very convincing and great use of all the plastic components to create the figure - plus the putty pushing. Practice and doing very small steps at one time seems to be the key approach for me too!
Simon.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 05, 2015, 09:16:29 PM: Very good :)

He'll look great coloured in :D

cheers

James
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Post by: janner on January 05, 2015, 09:23:43 PM: Super work :)
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: olicana on January 05, 2015, 09:33:16 PM: Stuart, I don't know where you find the time.

Happy New Year

James
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: painterman on January 05, 2015, 09:40:53 PM: James - he's a civil servant...!! lol lol lol
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Post by: commissarmoody on January 05, 2015, 09:48:29 PM: Don't sale yourself short, you do a pretty good job on the putty work.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 05, 2015, 09:49:02 PM: how rude, I bow to the portrait of the queen every day, in the office, at home or in an emergency I use a stamp, in between making or drinking tea and if we're really quiet I might do some casework but only if it has been approved in triplicate !

James, I know, 3 days on this one but it's patience and drying, a perverted part of my brain is considering doing at least 12 of these plus a horse holder.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Steel fist on January 05, 2015, 10:10:35 PM: Very characterful, I really like it, just keep at the sculpting, and try different ways as you can stumble across very useful techniques. One tip, not critique, just general advice. Get the shape a good as possible before adding detail as it saves you becoming happy with some detail you have just applied, then having to change it due to realising its in the wrong place!
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 05, 2015, 10:20:28 PM: Thanks Oliver, I found the arms really difficult, these are version 3 but yep lateral thinking was the way forward. I initially cut the slashings at right angles and took a while to realise why they looked wrong; the slashings go from the shoulder, seems obvious now but yes I seem to learn from happy accidents.

I found referring to figures and re-enactor clothing (Pinterest) very useful.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 05, 2015, 10:40:41 PM: Guard Archers with elbow length slashing are in the middle distance in the painting and the tapestry helped further with the sculpting.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: warburton on January 05, 2015, 10:46:18 PM: Very nice work :)
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Post by: Captain Blood on January 06, 2015, 11:06:24 AM: I like him :)
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Phil Robinson on January 06, 2015, 12:55:32 PM: Nice work, he is going to look even better with colour on.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2 (update 10 Jan)
Post by: Stuart on January 10, 2015, 12:36:20 PM: Here he is coloured in, and his horse holding companion, still a WIP with one arm to go and some paint but I couldn't resist.

The Green stuff areas sometimes come out slightly shiny when painted, any hints for eradicating this? does the green stuff need a primer prior to undercoat?

I'm pleased with them both and learning as I go.

Thanks for your interest

Stuart
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Captain Blood on January 10, 2015, 12:55:47 PM: Excellent. Love the horse-holder.
:-*
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Post by: rumacara on January 10, 2015, 08:41:56 PM: What a little green stuff can do for a miniature. :-* :-*

Lovelly work. Well done.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 11, 2015, 10:05:35 AM: Avec porcupine
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 11, 2015, 10:10:03 AM: Very nice, love the horse handler 8) 8)

What are you using for an undercoat?

cheers

James
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 11, 2015, 10:18:59 AM: Still not sure, any recommendations?

Going to look at GW primer perhaps
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 11, 2015, 10:31:33 AM: I use Halfords car primers myself, usually the dark brown camo one or failing that, the grey.

cheers

James
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: rumacara on January 11, 2015, 10:35:52 AM: Both Tamiya and Vallejo grey primers are very good.
Perhaps there are cheaper options on the market?
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Post by: painterman on January 11, 2015, 10:43:19 AM: Splendid work with the porcupine - how did you do that!!!
Personally I dont have any issues undercoating plastics, which have green stuff/putty additions, with Humbrol enamels diluted with a bit of turps (which I use for all my figures to get a layer that the acrylic adheres to.
Great figure - these are going to be a good looking unit.
Simon.
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 11, 2015, 12:22:09 PM: Thanks all, think I'll try with enamel. Simon I flattened a ball of green stuff and sculpted it on my desk then glued on when almost dry
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: huevans on January 11, 2015, 04:13:18 PM: Astonishingly good work, as always! :-* ;D
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 13, 2015, 02:49:10 PM: Sorry to update every moment but he turned out rather nicely;
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Post by: janner on January 14, 2015, 06:52:03 AM: Love it!
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Arthur on January 15, 2015, 02:44:03 AM: Quote from: Stuart on January 13, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
he turned out rather nicely;

He did indeed :)
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Post by: tomrommel1 on January 15, 2015, 07:14:42 AM: these are stunning! Well done so far!
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Post by: archiduque on January 20, 2015, 10:05:14 AM: Great work!!! ;)
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Metternich on January 24, 2015, 01:24:05 AM: Fantastic - love the addition of your scratchbuilt crowned porcupine badge. Bravo !
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Stuart on January 24, 2015, 11:57:37 AM: Here's the third conversion, I think I've nailed it sculpting wise on this one
Title: Re: French Ordonnance Archer conversion 2
Post by: Metternich on January 24, 2015, 04:38:57 PM: Wow ! That about sums it up.