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Title: Saxon /viking longship from cereal packet card.
Post by: tin shed gamer on 31 January 2015, 04:16:43 PM
I posted in another topic on waterlining a long ship.That I had a couple to make for the York show.So here they are.
Rather than go for the late 9th cent classic Sail baring long ship,I've gone for an ealier oared coastal raider.(mainly because I only left myself twelve hours in which to make them)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 31 January 2015, 04:45:27 PM
Excellent work  8)

cheers

James
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Post by: Jeff965 on 31 January 2015, 05:46:41 PM
Lovely looking vessels :-*
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Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on 31 January 2015, 06:16:03 PM
Fantastic work from a true master of the art.

I take my hat of to you sir.....

Tony
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Post by: MediumAl on 31 January 2015, 06:22:34 PM
They are made from cereal boxes!?!?  :o
How?
The only bits that looked like cereal box card was the bits that they were sitting on.
They look fab. I'm trying to make some bronze-age ships in 15mm, and so far they don't look too bad, but it's a slow process.

Al
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Post by: Mr.J on 31 January 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Wow they look great! Any chance of a tutorial?

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Post by: Madmick on 31 January 2015, 07:22:35 PM
They look excellent...

Where's the crew  ;)
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Post by: Axebreaker on 31 January 2015, 07:32:40 PM
Excellent bit of modelling! :-*

Christopher
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Post by: Comsquare on 31 January 2015, 07:45:25 PM
Really cool.

Wow they look great! Any chance of a tutorial?



Second that, could use a ship myself  :)
Title: Re: Saxon /viking longship from cereal packet card.
Post by: tin shed gamer on 31 January 2015, 07:46:35 PM
Thank you gent's.
They are just cereal packet card.The golden rule of using such a material is to have the printed side on the inner side.
But if your having trouble making your 15mm boats.Just post a pic'of what it is your making and what's giving you issue's.And I'll do my best to trouble shoot for you.But belive me the language I've uttered making these at speed would make a nun blush lol.(not to mention how many times I've stuck my fingers to the card with evil glue.)
As for a tutorial I don't think this version of a longship will translate,as these are throw away modeld for the 1st Corps.game at York tomorrow.I don't expect them to last the day. lol.
But if your at the show ,ask Simon or Mick at 1st corps.Where I am and they'll point me out,or ring me,and I'll be happy to talk you through making one.
All the methods you need are in a couple of tutorials over in the Workbench section.
The crew are with Simon and Mick ready for tomorrow.
It is possible to make the classic looking longship using the same methods but some of the ocean going ships,work out at roughly 40cm long when done in 28mm.So it would take a fair bit of my spare time to build and post a tutorial for one.
If I do give in and do one it couldn't be until March at best.
Mark.
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Post by: Constable Bertrand on 31 January 2015, 08:27:34 PM
Cracker Mark, again you excel where ever breakfast and superglue combine. :-*

Why do you not expect it to last more than a day? Evil glue is pretty tough and there isn't any fiddly protruding parts.

Cheers
Matt.
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Post by: Captain Blood on 31 January 2015, 08:45:55 PM
Cereal packet? Bloody Hell  :o :o :o
Seriously impressive  :-*
Crunchy Nut Cornflakes never looked better.
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 31 January 2015, 09:04:43 PM
I haven't eaten cereal for year's,But with five Kids and a couple of foster kids I had to do something with all the recycling.(we're always short of bin space)hense all the card tutorials.
I can't see them lasting too long on the edge of table at Show,with a bar.(but I could be wrong)last year I had a couple of ww1 vehicles grow leg's and wander off (I like to think they've gone to live on a farm.)
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Post by: Furt on 31 January 2015, 09:16:06 PM
Amazing! What a great effort - cereal boxes!!  :o
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Post by: Little Odo on 07 February 2015, 04:52:30 PM
I cannot believe they are made from cereal packets - excellent work  :o
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 07 February 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Thank you I will do a tutorial soon.but I will ask everyone now,to come up with the style of longship you'd like too see made in a tutorial,(a picture of the longship wouldn't go a miss.Then I know what everyone's talking about. lol),
But it you like the longship,have a look at the tute's I've done on tri engine plane's,8"howitzer's,and traction engine's.There just as much fun to make.
Mark.
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Post by: Andym on 07 February 2015, 10:24:13 PM
Stunning stuff mate!! :o :o :o :o
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Post by: rumacara on 08 February 2015, 12:33:18 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
Really nice.
I love it.
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Post by: Jevenkah on 08 February 2015, 01:28:19 AM
Brilliant builds! Those look fantastic!

Superglue and superspeed, always a messy combination.

Jevenkah
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Post by: LeadAsbestos on 08 February 2015, 05:52:38 AM
Well, I'll chime in and say that if you could do a tutorial on making a 28mm scale Mycenaean galley, I would be eternally in your debt. Considering doing it myself this summer, or getting the fine gent behind Ironheart Artisans to do some in MDF, but this technique would seem to be perfectly suited.

Please?  :)
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 08 February 2015, 09:56:06 AM
I don't see why not.Many year's ago I made a tri marine and swan ship for Grand Manner.So if you just post a picture here of what your after then I'll be able to say how much work it'll be(picture's just let me know were both describing a horse,and not looking at a cow.)
Mark.
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Post by: rumacara on 08 February 2015, 10:23:19 AM
And if its not much trouble, a roman liburnia would be great too, please.
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Post by: LeadAsbestos on 08 February 2015, 02:00:43 PM
(http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/ship52.jpg)

(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/06/15/argo_wideweb__470x278,0.jpg)
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 08 February 2015, 08:39:16 PM
Which liburnia ?
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Post by: rumacara on 08 February 2015, 09:04:22 PM
Anyone. :)
The one that suits you more.
With your skills and ideas we mere mortals might build something. :D
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 February 2015, 12:27:01 AM
A quick update I've had a look at both the galley and liburnia.With out wanting sound like a know it all.Both are simple builds requiring no previous knowledge of the ill's of working with card and evil glue.Where as the longship require's a prolonged use of four letter words.So I'll start with the galley and move on to the liburnia.The deck of the longship requires the same method of construction as the galley's deck area,So I'll cross reference the two projects.Rather than a complete tutorial for each.
As a model to scale isn't something I've the room for ,I'll be making the galley at 15cm-20cm,and the liburnia at 25cm-30cm.
To scale thats roughly 30' and 60'.which should allow for 25mm base's which is how I base most of my figure's otherwise I've two model's I can't use.
All I still need to know is where to post this tutorial as a workbench project or here as it stands now?
I'll be ready to post the first part by the end of the month.I estimated the galley build to be well under ten hour's.This way it can be done in the evenings over a week or hammered out in a day at the weekend.Is this the way you'd prefer it to be structured?
If I'm making for myself then the galley should be built and painted in four hours.That would be using the evil glue which isn't something I advise in a tutorial as I can never be sure how many thumb's anyone has who'd follow a tutorial or how old they really are.
Mark.
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Post by: rumacara on 20 February 2015, 10:25:22 AM
I think placing here the tutorials would be fine.
Many thanks for the tips. :)
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Post by: LeadAsbestos on 20 February 2015, 10:42:49 AM
Eagerly waiting!
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Post by: Bone on 25 February 2015, 09:18:30 AM
Maybe this helps :

http://www.kallboys.de/roemische-flussliburne

its in 1/72 -rescaling is easy
Title: Re: Saxon /viking longship from cereal packet card.
Post by: tin shed gamer on 26 February 2015, 08:52:57 PM
Thank you for the link,Its very kind of you.I don't use modelers scaling on wargaming models.I work on roughly 5mm to a foot,+ or - (the relative thickness of the materials in prortion to the detailing limitations of the material's),for 28mm.
Which roughly means if a doorhandle to 'scale' is 1mm and the materials will only work down to,2mm then the whole proprtion of the model will be adjusted to allow visual harmony with the details even to build a vehicle larger than 'scale length'.
In short build things to look right with figures on bases,and treat scale an.after thought.
As the debate over true scale is as old as the hobby and is truely a nasty can of worms,never to be opened again.
That said I thank you for the link as there is always something new to learn or remember,and inspire you think in a different way.
Mark.
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Post by: le bon roi rene on 07 March 2015, 08:12:37 PM
I love seeing DIY craft like this. Quite inspiring craftsmanship! Don't hesitate to share more photos.


Cheers,
Fred

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Post by: macmod on 07 March 2015, 09:20:39 PM
Third that I could make a curragh or birlinn!
Really cool.

Second that, could use a ship myself  :)
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Post by: Argonor on 08 March 2015, 12:36:44 AM
I am following this with anticipation.

I think that if I get the method right, I should be able to make templates from which to cut the various pieces, so it would be possible to make more copies of a design.
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Post by: Duke Donald on 08 March 2015, 01:16:17 AM
These boats are amazing!