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Title: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 09 February 2015, 10:50:35 PM
so stealing borrowing ideas from fram framson and others on LAF, here is my Red figure for Pulp Alley.  phots might not be the best - be forewarned.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LCZJnlf329Y/VNV-3QMVXXI/AAAAAAAAAjc/nufnFwkfQSo/w432-h559-no/20150206_193609-1.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/3UXYkngZE9LBbmECQmfDq3sXq8zD5b67_jtYe02NMZc=w576-h559-no)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/x5ly9u-MA1j97j3UMwovompLhi2CMlD513iKtk27ATU=w316-h559-no)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/UudOkW6eny9o789RQgmlXjK3-zZyiQl0a8FvUB27Dig=w607-h559-no)

this is my second attempt at her but some spots have the glitter a bit thick and i'm not entirely pleased with the skin tones.  don't be surprised if this gets a redo in the future.

as always, comments appreciated.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Amalric on 10 February 2015, 01:32:27 AM
Nice!

Did you use glitter paint or glitter on top of paint?
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 10 February 2015, 02:40:43 AM
amalric - glitter put on with gloss medium over paint.  the medium i used was a little thick as a couple of places are a bit clumpy.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 10 February 2015, 06:15:32 AM
amalric - glitter put on with gloss medium over paint.  the medium i used was a little thick as a couple of places are a bit clumpy.

I love that colour choice! Really great combination!
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pocoloco on 10 February 2015, 06:36:39 AM
Lovely, classical colour on her dress.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: marianas_gamer on 10 February 2015, 07:08:22 AM
Nice, I would never thought to use that color scheme but I really like it!
LB
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 10 February 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Nice, I would never thought to use that color scheme but I really like it!

full disclosure it wasn't my first choice of colors either - i originally had a white dress but seeing fram's work with glitter (and one of my bad paint jobs) prompted a do over so i followed my wife's suggestion.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Traveler Man on 10 February 2015, 03:39:15 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Wolf Girl on 10 February 2015, 07:10:07 PM
Nice job on the glitter dress. I may have to try that some time.  ;)
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 10 February 2015, 07:56:10 PM
By the way, if you do want to keep the glitter flat, my trick is to apply it carefully in small areas with a fine brush. You will have to clean (and blot dry) between every application, otherwise it will become gummed up with the wet varnish which you will pick up in laying the gloss down. Glitter is static-y so it will cling lightly to a dry brush.

I also used a toothpick to pick off errant bits of glitter.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Amalric on 11 February 2015, 04:46:31 AM
Thank you for the tips and the eye candy.  :D
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on 11 February 2015, 01:21:12 PM
Very nicely done.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: MalcyBogaten on 11 February 2015, 04:51:56 PM
I think I'll have to try this on some of my Far Eastern young lady figures?

Kimonos made easy I wonder?
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 11 February 2015, 06:34:30 PM
I think I'll have to try this on some of my Far Eastern young lady figures?

Kimonos made easy I wonder?


Well, the hard way is also kind of interesting too:

(http://i.imgur.com/t2L8u5j.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oaJtDmJ.jpg)

Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: MalcyBogaten on 11 February 2015, 06:40:35 PM
Right! Well you see...I can't do that.

Beautiful :-* :-* :-* :o
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Malebolgia on 12 February 2015, 03:22:16 PM
Ooh yes, that is excellent. The color combination is spot on and the glitter effect is top notch.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 12 February 2015, 04:55:18 PM
@fram - i  can't compare my painting to enough people already let alone professionals. and it gives me all kinds of ideas which will torment me.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: SBRPearce on 12 February 2015, 06:56:31 PM
Who makes those "gun-toting geishas" figures?
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 12 February 2015, 07:11:05 PM
It's the same figure just with two different paintjobs. It's a Reaper figure: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/xiufang/latest/50260

Be warned she's a bit on the larger side. I really hate the gun too. That said, I did buy one to try and see if I could get even halfway close to those dresses. Someday, someday...
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 12 February 2015, 08:10:49 PM
I really hate the gun too. That said, I did buy one to try and see if I could get even halfway close to those dresses. Someday, someday...

never mind the dresses...i wish i could paint eyes like that.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 13 February 2015, 03:23:24 AM
Hey, don't look at me - I cheat and use indelible pens.  lol
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: pistolpete on 13 February 2015, 01:58:39 PM
Hey, don't look at me - I cheat and use indelible pens.  lol

what brand/size do you use?  i steal enough ideas from you already so what's one more?
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: Wolf Girl on 13 February 2015, 03:31:05 PM
Hey, don't look at me - I cheat and use indelible pens.  lol
Dad told me I should try something like that.


what brand/size do you use?  i steal enough ideas from you already so what's one more?
Do tell!  :D
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: FramFramson on 13 February 2015, 05:34:31 PM
For a long time I used Sakura Pigma Micron pens, the .005 size. In addition to black, they also have several other colours, including an incredibly useful brown (it has reddish and yellowish elements to it, rather like the old GW Gryphonne Sepia) which can be used for other things besides eyes (I most frequently use it to do eyebrows on folks with fair hair - when I do eyebrows sometimes I paint them, and sometimes I use a pen, if they need to be super-fine, such as with my version of Red's face, it'll be the pen for sure).

I still use the Pigma Microns now, but in the last year I found the Copic Multiliner series, which is black only but has a pen about half the size of the Pigma (they sell it as '0.03' - different companies all have their different nomenclatures) and that has been INCREDIBLY HANDY, for figures with smaller eyes or anything a little more difficult.

The trick when using pens is to dab things on carefully and lightly. You still need to be able to get in close and get a good look at what you're doing, just as you would with painting - to me the real luxury isn't that the pen is tiny or anything. Really good quality brushes can paint extremely fine lines and tiny dots. The problem is that with eyes, everything needs to be placed so perfectly that you need extremely good concentration and have to be very slow and careful. I can do this vastly more easily with a pen because it won't dry out like paint on a brush will.

I should also point out that conventional painting techniques for eyes involve a multi-stage process. First you lay a slightly darker area to define the eye, then a slightly smaller area of near-white on top, then finally the pupil (well, the iris, actually). I still do the first two by conventional paint and ink washes. Sometimes pens are used to darken part of the ring around the eye to help define it (especially in cases like say, a woman expected to be wearing eyeliner or to otherwise have dark lashes, usually this is only the top of the eye and very rarely all the way around).

Which is a very roundabout way of saying pens are an incredible help, but they won't do everything. They're a very specialized tool that can help with certain specific things, but overusing them can look just as bad as not using them at all.

I have one or two figures where I have actually painted coloured irises and used the pen to actually do a pupil, but wow is that ever agonizing to try and pull off.
Title: Re: my PA Red finished
Post by: MalcyBogaten on 13 February 2015, 05:43:56 PM
Thanks a lot for that.

I've been wanting to know and hoping you'd give some tips.

Now all I need is to be able to focus my eyes the way I could about 25 years ago! lol

Great advice.