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Title: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: fergal on February 16, 2015, 05:20:58 AM
Hey folks, I lost my painting mojo in June and I literally haven't finished a model since then.  Had a few false starts, but nothing finished.  Then Fairoaks started to send me some awesome pics of stuff he'd finished, about a model a day, so it inspired me to get back to it.

Ditto is perhaps one of the two models that started Crossover Miniatures.  Flashback was my favorite comic book villain for some reason.  I can't tell you why, he was only in few issues and he's not extremely powerful by any means.  I guess I like the style and he started my fascination with multiple-man type supers.  

Here's my multiple-man, Ditto.  I'm only at the block painting stage, but the fact that I'm painting again is so significant to me that I wanted to get him out there.  Tomorrow I gloss coat him, perhaps the next few days will see them washed, dullcoted, and based.

(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_1486.jpg)

So, I'm telling my wife about the multiple guy 'Ditto' and she's not really impressed.  She's English and I guess growing up, they didn't have dittos.  Help me out English (and other) board members.  When I was a kid in school around 1980-1985, my school didn't have a copy machine yet, but had a Spirit Duplicator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator) and we called the purple and white sheet it produced, and we were handed for worksheets, a ditto.  What'd you call them in the UK?  Or whatever county you are from?

More pics of the finished product to come!
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: von Lucky on February 16, 2015, 08:29:09 AM
Great start painting - glad you're back in it and enjoying it.

I remember those machines, having to rip off the sides. Can't help you with a name though as I was too young.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: Puuka on February 16, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
That article you linked says they were called Banda machines in the UK. However, they did stop getting used by the 70's. It may just be an issue of lack of exposure. Its like trying explaining cassette tapes to a 9 year old in this digital age. I'm in my 40's and have only seen one and got to use it when I took shop class. Xerox copiers were being used by this point in offices.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: fairoaks024 on February 16, 2015, 01:08:51 PM
Excellent work rusty, glad to have been some small part in the painting engine :)

We had one of those machines at school in the UK but they called it a mimeograph. Not
Really much of a name to base a superhero on, even by my standards!
Ditto works much better and is a cool name for a duplicating hero.

Regards

Jim
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: fergal on February 16, 2015, 01:35:41 PM
Hmmm...antique collecting copier repair man with delusions of grandeur gets caught in a lightning storm while working on a Xerox machine, the Lightning gets closer and closer, until...
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: leegwonfu on February 20, 2015, 12:16:42 AM
Shades of high school! I totally remember the "dittos". I graduated in '84, and all of my class hand-outs and tests were made on those machines. They always had an odd smell to them - especially when they were fresh off of the machine!

PS. I naturally love the name!
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: fergal on February 20, 2015, 12:33:28 AM
Thanks leegwanfu :)

Perhaps they went out of general use in the seventies, but it was still the only source of worksheets in my tiny school to at least '85.

I had even thought of painting each duplicate in a slightly lighter shade of purple than the last?  But then that sounded like too much work. :)

I just finished basing them about 30 minutes ago, I'll post some quick pics later tonight, after filing taxes :(
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (now finished)
Post by: fergal on February 20, 2015, 02:56:26 PM
Here are the boys finished.  Seeing them at this magnification, I can see my dullcote is not up to the job in my 55 degree basement.  I'll have to give them another coat when it warms up a bit.

Overall, I'm pretty psyched about how they turned out.  Now to paint three more copies/dittos :)

(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ditto-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (now finished)
Post by: fairoaks024 on February 20, 2015, 04:48:26 PM
Very cool!
I like your idea of fading purple tones, on the next three how about lightening fading the purple areas only?

Regards

Jim
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (now finished)
Post by: Legionnaire on February 21, 2015, 02:11:18 AM
Hey folks, I lost my painting mojo in June and I literally haven't finished a model since then.  Had a few false starts, but nothing finished.  Then Fairoaks started to send me some awesome pics of stuff he'd finished, about a model a day, so it inspired me to get back to it.

Ditto is perhaps one of the two models that started Crossover Miniatures.  Flashback was my favorite comic book villain for some reason.  I can't tell you why, he was only in few issues and he's not extremely powerful by any means.  I guess I like the style and he started my fascination with multiple-man type supers.  

Here's my multiple-man, Ditto.  I'm only at the block painting stage, but the fact that I'm painting again is so significant to me that I wanted to get him out there.  Tomorrow I gloss coat him, perhaps the next few days will see them washed, dullcoted, and based.

(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_1486.jpg)

So, I'm telling my wife about the multiple guy 'Ditto' and she's not really impressed.  She's English and I guess growing up, they didn't have dittos.  Help me out English (and other) board members.  When I was a kid in school around 1980-1985, my school didn't have a copy machine yet, but had a Spirit Duplicator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator) and we called the purple and white sheet it produced, and we were handed for worksheets, a ditto.  What'd you call them in the UK?  Or whatever county you are from?

More pics of the finished product to come!

Great that you are getting your painting mojo back again!! I remember those machines with purple and white sheet from school in Sweden, used to have a specific smell and you had to hand crank the copies! Can't remember the name though.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (now finished)
Post by: Argonor on February 21, 2015, 02:44:12 AM
In Denmark, the machine was simply called spirit duplicator (sprit-duplikator), and the 'product' duplicates (duplikater) or simply copies.

 AB Lennartsfors mekaniska verkstad in Sweden produced a model called the 'Plentograf'

Wiki has a short article on the matter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months
Post by: DS615 on February 26, 2015, 01:24:27 AM
I had even thought of painting each duplicate in a slightly lighter shade of purple than the last?  But then that sounded like too much work.

I was going to suggest that, it would be totally worth it!
Now, if you could figure a way to give them that very distinctive smell...
 :)
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: fergal on April 05, 2015, 04:03:32 PM
Finished these guys a while ago but got busy and haven't posted them.

Here is Ditto and 5 copies to back him up. They start to loose a bit of power/color with each now copy.

(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dittox6.jpg)

I think I like them.  Something deep down in me prefers uniformity, but I liked this concept enough to step outside my comfort zone :)
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: Vanvlak on April 05, 2015, 04:24:02 PM
Very nice, I like the fading scheme.  8) 8) 8)  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: von Lucky on April 05, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Together like that I'm hearing "poof, poof, poof" as each new copy is made. Loving it.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: Oldben1 on April 06, 2015, 03:40:17 PM
Is this an homage to 'flashback' from Alpha Flight?

Cool villain.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: fergal on April 06, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Flashback is easily my favorite villain :)  I've loved multiple man supers ever since seeing him in Alpha Flight all those years ago. 

One of the things I wanted to do when I started crossover miniatures was produce a multiple man but it's a triple investment for something that might not be popular.  Took a while to pull off, and this is my multiple man!
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: Oldben1 on April 06, 2015, 11:39:27 PM
I love that scene when one of his multiples dies in issue 11 I think.  The realization that he's just killed his future.  Classic John Byrne!

Great miniatures by the way!
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: fourcolorfigs on April 07, 2015, 02:58:43 PM
I love that scene when one of his multiples dies in issue 11 I think.  The realization that he's just killed his future.  Classic John Byrne!

Great miniatures by the way!

I think it's issue #27 where that happens, but I could be wrong. His double gets impaled when someone uses it as a shield against one of Madison Jeffries constructs, or am I mis-remembering? 
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: styx on April 07, 2015, 04:13:03 PM
I think it's issue #27 where that happens, but I could be wrong. His double gets impaled when someone uses it as a shield against one of Madison Jeffries constructs, or am I mis-remembering? 

#28, Courtney (the robot) used him as a meat shield against Jeffries when he turned a car into a weapon....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashback_%28comics%29
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix6/flashbackaf.htm


During Alpha Flight's second encounter with Omega Flight, one of Flashback's duplicates was killed by a construct created by Madison Jeffries after Courtney used it as a shield against an attack, causing all other duplicates present to vanish. Upon the realization that his duplicate's death would mean his death in the future, Flashback fell to his knees in shock while Jeffries dealt with the remaining Omegans and destroyed Courtney. Flashback and his teammates were left under guard by Jeffries' construct until the police arrived to apprehend them.

Some years later Alpha Flight was informed that Flashback had disappeared from prison. Alpha Flight took this to mean that Flashback's past had finally caught up with him.[volume & issue needed] This was not to be, as years later Flashback resurfaced. Having sworn off his powers, he tried to destroy his costume, reasoning that if he didn't have his costume he couldn't be sent back to his death.[volume & issue needed]

Then one morning Flashback woke up to discover his costume hanging in the bathroom. This version however had the same design as the ones worn by his duplicates. Flashback soon discovered that no matter what he did, he kept on finding himself in the duplicate suit.[volume & issue needed]

In desperation, Flashback contacted Sasquatch and his Alpha Flight team and convinced them to help him. The Alpha Flight member Nemesis came to the conclusion that she would have to kill him with her enchanted blade in order to stop him from dying in the future. After much trial and error Alpha Flight managed to keep Flashback from being sent to the past.[volume & issue needed]
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: Oldben1 on April 07, 2015, 05:41:37 PM
Well I went back and checked, I thought it was the first encounter with Omega Flight, but you are right it is the second!  Alpha Flight 1-28 (plus X-Men 120, 121) are my all time favourites.  I have to admit I haven't read them in years, I'll have to start again in earnest.

Unfortunately I quit buying Alpha Flight at issue 60, so the later history is new to me.  It has to be the strangest 'team' book out there.  Most of the characters never appear together as a large group, then they killed off the leader in issue 12!

You'll need a Smart Alec miniature now too, crawling out of Talisman's pouch.

I love these models.
Title: Re: Ditto - First painted models in months (3 new copies added)
Post by: fairoaks024 on April 12, 2015, 04:47:51 PM
Very cool use of a super power in model form, I always like the models  shown using some sort of power best.

Nice paintwork too, the fading colours work really well

Regards

Jim