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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Ray Earle on 18 March 2015, 08:28:34 PM

Title: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Ray Earle on 18 March 2015, 08:28:34 PM

First one. Mainly a colour test, just to make sure I'm happy with the selections. Painted as the 17th Leicestershire regiment.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii10/RayEarle/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxxsyw5jf.jpg)

I've gone with the historically questionable helmet flash because, well, I like it. It adds a bit of colour too.  ;)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii10/RayEarle/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpswvgriych.jpg)

Apologies for the poor photography (done on the phone  ::)).

Just need to base it now, oh, and paint some more...

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Jeff965 on 18 March 2015, 09:07:57 PM

Wow Ray that's a lovely paint job :-*

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Post by: Keith on 18 March 2015, 09:12:18 PM

That's great!

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Post by: Phil Robinson on 18 March 2015, 09:22:19 PM

Superb paint job, and the helmet flash is just dandy, historically accurate or not.

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Post by: wulfgar22 on 18 March 2015, 10:05:04 PM

Superb!

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Post by: RJ on 18 March 2015, 10:19:53 PM

Very nice job.

Good to see a painted example as well, even more tempted by them now...

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Post by: Malamute on 18 March 2015, 10:20:09 PM

Lovely Ray, he's superb. ;D

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Post by: Romark on 18 March 2015, 10:23:00 PM

Excellent,helmet flash looks good too.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Arthur on 18 March 2015, 11:14:36 PM

A very clean and crisp paint job, Ray  8)

Is it indiscreet to ask which paints/triads you used for the khaki ? It looks spot on to me.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: guitarheroandy on 18 March 2015, 11:20:05 PM

Great job!!  8) 8)

I have a unit of those who keep looking at me from the painting table...

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: folnjir on 18 March 2015, 11:24:16 PM

Quote from: Ray Earle on 18 March 2015, 08:28:34 PM

Just need to base it now, oh, and paint some more...

Yes, yes you do. Lovely work, looking forward to seeing them at you do.

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Post by: Mad Guru on 18 March 2015, 11:26:16 PM

Wow, beautiful job overall, and the Martini-Henry looks fantastic!

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Post by: marianas_gamer on 18 March 2015, 11:38:09 PM

Very nice :-* :-*
LB

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Post by: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 05:30:30 AM

That's a bit tasty Mr Earle!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Lovely smooth layering and nice and crisp too!

Darrell.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Ray Earle on 19 March 2015, 09:47:02 AM

Thank you for the comments gents. Much appreciated.  :)

Quote from: Arthur on 18 March 2015, 11:14:36 PM

Is it indiscreet to ask which paints/triads you used for the khaki ? It looks spot on to me.

Not at all. It's all vallejo paints and I've included the paint codes as I can never remember if they are 'model' or 'game' colour paints. Based on a black undercoat;

Base colour of US field drab (70.873) followed by a mid tone of, surprise, surprise, Khaki (70.988), both of these are straight from the bottle. The highlight is made by mixing the Khaki mid-tone with Dark sand (70.847) in about a 4-1 ratio. Be fairly stingy with the dark sand as it has a tendency to lighten the khaki quite a bit.

I usually do a final edge highlight by mixing a little more dark sand in with the highlight colour. Just to accentuate the edge of the jacket, cuffs and elbows/knees.

I hope that's of some help.  :D Feel free to ask any other questions if the explanation isn't clear enough.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 10:01:50 AM

Quote from: Ray Earle on 19 March 2015, 09:47:02 AM

Base colour of US field drab (70.873) followed by a mid tone of, surprise, surprise, Khaki (70.988), both of these are straight from the bottle. The highlight is made by mixing the Khaki mid-tone with Dark sand (70.847) in about a 4-1 ratio. Be fairly stingy with the dark sand as it has a tendency to lighten the khaki quite a bit.

Sounds like an interesting recipe. My version of Indian Khaki is based around VMC Beige. I'll post up some pics and give both a try when they are complete.

Darrell.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Phil Robinson on 19 March 2015, 10:03:17 AM

Thanks for the "recipe" Ray, always on the look out for khaki variants.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Ray Earle on 19 March 2015, 10:32:56 AM

Quote from: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 10:01:50 AM

Sounds like an interesting recipe. My version of Indian Khaki is based around VMC Beige. I'll post up some pics and give both a try when they are complete.

Please do Darrell. I'm toying with the idea of giving the Indian regiments slightly different coloured Khaki uniforms. Locally supplied cloth and such.

Quote from: Phil Robinson on 19 March 2015, 10:03:17 AM

Thanks for the "recipe" Ray, always on the look out for khaki variants.

No problem Phil. Always happy to share paint schemes.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 11:00:55 AM

Quote from: Ray Earle on 19 March 2015, 10:32:56 AM

Please do Darrell. I'm toying with the idea of giving the Indian regiments slightly different coloured Khaki uniforms. Locally supplied cloth and such.

Will do. Weathering, mainly the sun(!), I would imagine that the khaki for certain campaigns would be quite similar as the uniforms were usually ordered in batches. I know from an expert in the field that khaki in the Boar Wars was pretty consistent for example. I'll pop him a message and ask what he thinks.

Still, that all said, a bit of variation never did the wargames table any harm and different units might have been out in the field longer then others in regards to weathering etc.

I'll get back to you when/if I get a reply.

Darrell.

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Post by: Harry Faversham on 19 March 2015, 11:55:36 AM

:) I think that 'gentleman in khaki' looks absolutely spiffing out in the midday sun.  :)

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 02:00:36 PM

From the Victoria's Wars Forum, Jf42:

Darrel, at the start of the war khaki kit was by and large sourced regimentally- or at equivalent unit level- and indeed by amongst individual officers as many group photographs show, particularly staff groups and Royal Engineers at Kabul in the winter of 1879-80. Others less so as the well known officer groups of the 51st shows. There are a number of oft quoted sources that refer to white drill uniforms being dyed with river mud. The results for some regiments were surprisingly smart, as in the case of the 10th Hussars, 9th Lancers or the 72nd Highlanders. Photographs from later in the war indicate more uniformity but whether this reflects a more centralised arrangement as some secondary sources have suggested, I think needs more research.

I have been gathering information on this topic on the range of khaki uniforms seen during the Afghan War, both in cut and colour, awaiting time to form into a coherent post. I am on the move with intermittent access to internet at the moment. If you can wait until next week I might be able to organise some of it to help you with your project. No colour photos of course!

Darrell.

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Post by: Bugsda on 19 March 2015, 04:50:11 PM

Top job Brother Ray  8)

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Arthur on 19 March 2015, 10:12:36 PM

Quote from: Ray Earle on 19 March 2015, 09:47:02 AM

Base colour of US field drab (70.873) followed by a mid tone of, surprise, surprise, Khaki (70.988), both of these are straight from the bottle. The highlight is made by mixing the Khaki mid-tone with Dark sand (70.847) in about a 4-1 ratio. Be fairly stingy with the dark sand as it has a tendency to lighten the khaki quite a bit.

I usually do a final edge highlight by mixing a little more dark sand in with the highlight colour. Just to accentuate the edge of the jacket, cuffs and elbows/knees.

I hope that's of some help.  :D Feel free to ask any other questions if the explanation isn't clear enough.

Cheers for the recipe, Ray : most useful and much appreciated  :)

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Atheling on 19 March 2015, 11:45:03 PM

Quote from: Arthur on 19 March 2015, 10:12:36 PM

Cheers for the recipe, Ray : most useful and much appreciated  :)

It will and it is indeed much appreciated  8).

Darrell.

Title: Re: Artizan 2nd afghan war British.
Post by: Ash on 19 March 2015, 11:45:16 PM

Superb paint job.