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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: maxxon on March 20, 2015, 07:37:01 AM
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So I took a break from the dwarfs for a while and painted a batch of Chronopia Elf Archers...
I chose to go with House Helios colors because that's what all my existing elves are. That's despite the fact that I find it extremely hard to take them seriously (if you've lived in Finland in the 70's or 80's you'll understand why).
I actually started an Obsidian Guard figure with them, but since he didn't actually share any colors with the archers he fell by the wayside... no worries, I'm finishing him tonight.
Enough talk, on with the pictures:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150319/thumb/20150319-026.jpg)
Note how they all have the glove on the right hand, but they are using different hand to hold the bow. Half of the elves are left-handed!
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150319/tiny/20150319-018.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150319/tiny/20150319-022.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150319/tiny/20150319-024.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150319/tiny/20150319-025.jpg)
More blabbering and pics at www.smallcuts.net
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nice work! Are you planning on playing chronopia with them or other rules. It's still my favorite fantasy rules system
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Now they are a pleasant change from the G.W. style Cone Head Pointy Eared Ones. The minis are UBERCOOL & the brushwork & basing add to that impression in an OUTSTANDING fashion. VERY WELL DONE!
Maybe you could have a few missing fingers on the right handed Elves...or not.
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nice work! Are you planning on playing chronopia with them or other rules. It's still my favorite fantasy rules system
Thanks.
No real plans at this stage. Most probably I will try to use some other rules at some point:
- I have far too many figures already for any sensible Chronopia game, let alone when I'm done painting
- I was never that fond of the rules anyway, I fell in love with the figures and the imagery
- Not quite sure if I want skirmish or regimented rules
I still have 300+ Chronopia figs to paint...
Maybe I'll try adapting God of Battles. It seemed suitably fast and easy when I browsed my copy.
But which force to paint next...
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I wish there was more info available on god of battles. The reason I always likes chronopia was because its was kinda mass skirmish. I would really like a generic fantasy system like that.
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GoB is definitely not generic, but I think it's simple enough to be readily convertible. I find that in most cases "counts as" conversion is good enough. Just find the closest equivalent unit and use those stats directly.
And it's definitely mass skirmish with some very nicely done ideas to speed play -- e.g. Everything is always measured from the unit leader, you move him and the rest of the unit just reforms around his new position.
Eliminates one of my main dislikes about overgrown skirmish games -- individual movement measurement for tens of models.
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Here's the Obsidian Guard:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150322/thumb/20150322-008.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150322/tiny/20150322-010.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150322/tiny/20150322-009.jpg)
Too bad they never made more poses of these...
Yes, obsidian is black, but that seemed so boring I painted the snake dark green instead.
I decided to go back to the dwarfs for a while. Painting a batch of horny guys should clear all my dwarf units. I know I must have a some individual figures stuck in somewhere, but I'll find them eventually... There certainly are no more hiding in the box titled "dwarfs".
Teaser:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150322/tiny/20150322-004.jpg)
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Hi,
good job: I wait for other pics, I'm a Chronopia fan too! (a Devout army unpainted hiding somewhere...)
I know it exists a fantasy supplement for FUBAR, but never read it. Don't know if it can suit with your project...
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great work!
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After a foray into dwarfs (see the other thread), I returned to elves after all and painted up some Crystal Lotus militia:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150513/thumb/20150513-015.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150513/tiny/20150513-020.jpg)(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150513/tiny/20150513-018.jpg)
I kinda like the way the blue-on-blue theme turned out. I have a handful of Lotus specials under work, they should be finished later this week. They're a bit more experimental as far as the color scheme goes (Dream Warriors and Crystal Knight).
I'm not quite sure what to do with the rest of the elves. I don't have quite enough of them for a full force of each house. Maybe I'll just do Helios and Lotus, though that would leave my Adamantium Golems pretty much unemployed...
I have a few axemen, a bunch of spearmen and a unit of swordsmen tucked away. Plus maybe some more character models. And a host of golems, ofcourse...
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Very nice job, you gonna have a wonderful army!
It's really a shame leaving out obsidian serpent (you have already painted a very cool obsidian guard!): why don't use all your remaining models to assemble only a force of obsidian serpent? Maybe you'd want to use them for Elios or Crstal Lotus, but hey, these golems worth to be painted!
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I'll have to see what I can muster. I want at least another basic infantry unit for Lotus to make it a viable force.
Then if I have enough leftovers, I might do a small Obsidian Serpent force as well. There's a small problem with the leader models, as I never had too many of them.
I painted this guy a while back:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20060701/small/11.jpg)
Hmmm... actually almost 10 years ago.
But he has a few fellows still in lead.
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I wish there was more info available on god of battles. The reason I always likes chronopia was because its was kinda mass skirmish. I would really like a generic fantasy system like that.
Same here. I have high hopes of Dragon Rampant.
@Maxxon - lovely paint jobs!
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Thanks.
Dream Warriors, Crystal Knight and Lotus Eater are getting based tonight, expect more pics in a couple of days.
They're going to be a bit more experimental lot.
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I painted this guy a while back:
Hmmm... actually almost 10 years ago.
But he has a few fellows still in lead.
When in doubt, double-handed maul! :)
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Dream Warriors are done! Apparently there was a Dream Warrior leader model, but it's super rare and I don't have it making this formation technically illegal in play...
The warriors are also an experiment in a new painting technique. They're supposed to be semi-ethereal or something, probably due to munching some magic lotus or such (I never paid too much attention to the fluff -- way too many cities being raised [sic] to the ground...) -- notice they don't have legs.
The Crystal Knight is a bit stiff and way top heavy. And what's with the weird ornaments hanging on everyone's backs?
The Lotus Eater is a multi-kit to accommodate different lotus colors/houses, but the only thing that really changes is the tip of the staff. Unfortunately the joint there is very difficult, so I ended up wrapping twine around it and superglueing the whole thing -- and it's still a bit iffy...
Enough talk, more pics:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150520/thumb/20150520-016.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150520/tiny/20150520-012.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150520/tiny/20150520-013.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150520/tiny/20150520-014.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150520/tiny/20150520-021.jpg)
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It seems I had the presence of mind to buy one of the super rare Dream Warrior leaders before Prince August closed the lid on Chronopia:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150530/tiny/20150530-001.jpg)
These are now in the next painting batch with some swordsmen:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150530/tiny/20150530-004.jpg)
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Yea! The Dream Warriors are done!
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150612/thumb/20150612-015.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150612/tiny/20150612-007.jpg)(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150612/tiny/20150612-008.jpg)
Now including the somewhat rare leader, making this actually a legal formation! Though I don't recall the unit size, perhaps with 8 troopers I should have have another leader... oh well, whatever. It's not like I'm going to use the Chronopia rules anyway.
These were an interesting experiment, though, done mostly with washes and drybrushing to capture their ethereal quality
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Very nice job! I find your experiment with wash-and-drybrush turned out well.
So now you only need to wait till christmas for Dragon Rampant lol
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So now you only need to wait till christmas for Dragon Rampant lol
Not likely to be a good fit with its locked unit sizes... maybe I'll dust off Chipco's Fantasy Rules!
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House Crystal Lotus is done! For now anyways... I finished some swordsmen for them.
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150617/thumb/20150617-012.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150617/tiny/20150617-011.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150617/tiny/20150617-020.jpg)
These are much more traditional style.
More on the subject at: http://www.smallcuts.net/blog/?id=2036
Hmmm... what next? Should I finally get to the orcs? Beef up the good old Firstborn I started Chronopia with so long ago? Slave away the few remaining elves and dwarfs?
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Well done! When a whole army pic?
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Well done! When a whole army pic?
I've been thinking about that... maybe I'll get a proper photo shoot organized next week.
Here's a teaser I snapped when I was doing my storage reorganization:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150401/thumb/20150401-010.jpg)
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Back from vacation with a little painting done:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150728/thumb/20150728-013.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150728/tiny/20150728-012.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150728/tiny/20150728-014.jpg)
I finished my last axemen (axe-elfs?) trying to match the color scheme I painted... errr... maybe 10 years ago.
A few elven character models remain and a section of spearmen, then I will definitely have to move to something else... Firstborn or maybe finally the orcs?
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Not likely to be a good fit with its locked unit sizes... maybe I'll dust off Chipco's Fantasy Rules!
Actually, you'd be ok with Dragon Rampant, I suspect, as you can field 'reduced model units' so if you don't have enough models for a unit of 12 of whatever troop-type, just field 6 and they fight exactly like a normal full 12 man unit, with each model in effect having 2 wounds - or field 4 with each model having 3 wounds. It's very, very flexible in that way.
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Actually, you'd be ok with Dragon Rampant, I suspect, as you can field 'reduced model units' so if you don't have enough models for a unit of 12 of whatever troop-type, just field 6 and they fight exactly like a normal full 12 man unit, with each model in effect having 2 wounds - or field 4 with each model having 3 wounds. It's very, very flexible in that way.
I read about that, but I'm not so convinced. Chronopia is built around units of 4-8 troops plus specials (some of which were never available or are super rare).
Let's take my Dream Warriors as an example. I have 8 troopers plus a super rare leader, nine total.
I could field them as a 6 figure unit, but that would leave 3 models unused.
I could try to find (and paint) three more to get to 12, but in addition to cost and work the figures may be unavailable.
I could field all 9 and count them as having 1.33333 wounds each -- yeah, that'll work.
Besides it's a look issue for me. Multi-wounds is okay if you're talking about ogres or such. But having 4 bog standard dwarf warriors stand in for 12 just looks stupid to me. Nevermind issues with the hugely reduced unit foot print.
It works much better if you're used to playing a fantasy game built around units of 16-20 figures. Especially if figures stylistically similar to your existing ones are readily available.
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Ah well, I suppose it was worth the suggestion if only to be able to prove conclusively to you that the game isn't an option for you.
Interesting models, btw. I hadn't seen them before...very different to the usual Elven models.
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Interesting models, btw. I hadn't seen them before...very different to the usual Elven models.
The whole line is like that.
I really like that they had the balls to go for a unique look instead of generic fantasy.
Though now the downside is that getting stylistically compatible figures is virtually impossible.
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The whole line is like that.
I really like that they had the balls to go for a unique look instead of generic fantasy.
Though now the downside is that getting stylistically compatible figures is virtually impossible.
Yes, and that original look was, IMO, heavilly used by GW in the late nineties: I'm not sure, but I have a feeling that some artists (illustrators and sculptors) worked also for GW in that period (see some WHFB sixth ed. arrmy list covers, i.e. chaos warriors or orcs).
All in all I think that it esxist some Chronopia-like range - I don't know if still alive. A rapid search bring me this link:
http://marbles.frothersunite.com/apr04b.html
And, if you don't know it yet, I suggest to take a look here
http://www.chronopiaworld.com/index.php
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Yes, and that original look was, IMO, heavilly used by GW in the late nineties: I'm not sure, but I have a feeling that some artists (illustrators and sculptors) worked also for GW in that period (see some WHFB sixth ed. arrmy list covers, i.e. chaos warriors or orcs).
Well, the talent pool even in UK is not that deep. You see a lot of the same artists drawing for 2000AD and GW for example.
Or at least that's the way it was in 80's and 90's, haven't really kept up to date with it...
The Celtos figures are a very good match stylistically for the Sons of Kronos, and various chaos figures would sink into Devout (though that is IMHO the most boring and unimaginative of the ranges), but getting matches for the rest of them is pretty difficult, especially ones that would fit into existing units.
The Chronopia figures are also very large, especially for metal models. You will be hard pressed to find an elf of similar stature, nevermind the style.
The range is also unfortunately plagued by widely varying quality. Sculpts done by Kev White are super, but some of the rest have been rushed through by... less talented sculptors. They tried to have full ranges for five factions (including multiple subfactions) at launch, and it shows in places...
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Yes, definitely I think you're right. I find the same difficulties in finding suitable miniature also for Dwarves. I'm sure I saw somewhere a guy producing non-chronopia dwarves, but I can't find the right link - sorry :'(
All in all: great paint on the axemen (they are intended for House of Helios or Obsidian Serpent - or both? :))
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All in all: great paint on the axemen (they are intended for House of Helios or Obsidian Serpent - or both? :))
Thanks. I went for a Helios flame motif here.
Most of my elves are Helios, some are Crystal Lotus and right now the lone Obsidian Guard and a golem hold the flag for Serpent... though I think I'll paint the dragon rider (the big one) I'm working on right now for them as well. Then I have three or four more golems and maybe getting another lotus eater I could have sort of super elite Serpent force...
Obsidian never had as good a selection of specials as the others.
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Yes, definitely I think you're right. I find the same difficulties in finding suitable miniature also for Dwarves. I'm sure I saw somewhere a guy producing non-chronopia dwarves, but I can't find the right link - sorry :'(
http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm
Grimm
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http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm
Grimm
Thank you very much Grimm!
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The bottom of the pansy bin is visible!
Here's the latest entry, some Helios spearmen:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150818/thumb/20150818-028.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150818/tiny/20150818-024.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150818/tiny/20150818-032.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150818/tiny/20150818-037.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150818/tiny/20150818-026.jpg)
I have a couple characters in the works, but now I really have to think up something new for next month. Firstborn or Blackbloods, hmmm, that is the question...
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And to finish it off, some Helios heroes:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150822/thumb/20150822-031.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150822/tiny/20150822-026.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150822/tiny/20150822-021.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150822/tiny/20150822-016.jpg)
Now I've really run out of elves. Just the dragon rider left, but I'll do that on the side.
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One vote for blackblood!
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Another vote for the Blackbloods !
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Sorry guys, Firstborn are already on the workbench:
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20150830/thumb/20150830-019.jpg)
Blackbloods will have to wait... though these shouldn't take too long.
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A little addition to the elven arsenal... unlike the scrawny Cold One wannabes, this flying dragon is actually pretty neat.
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20151019/thumb/20151019-019.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20151019/tiny/20151019-013.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20151019/tiny/20151019-007.jpg)
(http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20151019/tiny/20151019-015.jpg) (http://www.swob.kvy.fi/photo-archive/20151019/tiny/20151019-018.jpg)
Those who know the model probably noticed I left out a couple of parts... I just didn't think the LazyBoy chair really belonged there and the javelin rack was just flimsy. Besides how the heck are you supposed to throw them while hanging onto the lance?
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Hey, wonderful work on the wings!
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Hey, wonderful work on the wings!
That's Anarchy Models' HS Stencils at work -- pretty ok for the first attempt (and I'm the worst airbrusher in the world).
Incidentally, they are just running a KS to add more designs.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805848592/hs-stencil-system-wave-2-from-anarchy-models
I only wish they'd pay me for posting pics and links...