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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2015, 09:50:33 AM

Title: Canadian Autocar
Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2015, 09:50:33 AM
This odd looking vehicle was used through out the war.
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: von Lucky on 20 March 2015, 10:51:29 AM
Looking good (those crazy Canadians).
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Post by: jp1885 on 20 March 2015, 11:02:46 AM
Ooh, that's got VBCW written all over it!
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Post by: Shawnt63 on 20 March 2015, 12:35:38 PM
Wow beautiful looking model! :)
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Post by: Will Bailie on 20 March 2015, 02:49:30 PM
That's fantastic - is it a scratch-build?
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2015, 04:06:23 PM
 lol
Thank you,the answer is its a vehicle thats being added to the 1st Corps range(I sculpt the range so its also a scratch build to me lol)
But I've dropped this model(four times!)All the lamp's have taken a hit,and come away from the vehicle.The rear wheel behind the standing figure is card.As I lost a wheel when I dropped it.(actually all four wheels came off,one is still in 30metres of lawn)I try and build for the rough and tumble of gaming.But dropping it from 8ft onto concrete doesn't help.
So this one is more scratch built than not.On the whole its pritty much a production,casting Only the model comes with two gunners and a Driver.The ammo belts are made almost twice as long as required((the ones in the pictures are cut down)),the water cans and tubing are built in.the gun comes with the hand grips attatched.the dog legged mount is one length and needs trimming down to fit the rear mount.(the whole gun will be available as a seperate set,for scratch building projects.)
I thought a warts and all approach,was best so there it is.(also theres a good chance I'll drop the thing again)
Mark.
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: Will Bailie on 20 March 2015, 08:02:12 PM
Thanks, Mark - I've been looking for one of these for a few years, so I'll keep an eye for First Corps to release it!

As for long ammo belts,

(http://www.landships.info/landships/car_articles/images/Autocar_6.jpg)

it looks like long ammo belts shouldn't be a problem!
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2015, 10:13:07 PM
No thank you,Just seen your pic' and oh  bugger,I've lost the steps off the side as well lol.(Could not for the life of me,think why the gap between the rear wheel and the cab,was bugging me.Now I know.)
This is an odd vehicle to sculpt.There are so many pit falls,for such a simple vehicle.it plays havoc with perspective,one angle makes the figures look small,and another look oversized.(its the same when you look at real photo's of the autocar,some of its down to simpley it doesn't fit with your mental image of an armoured car.and some to the miss understanding of just how unruley the scale of ww1 vehicles are.)
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: Will Bailie on 21 March 2015, 04:02:13 AM
Have you seen a book called "The Armoured Autocar in Canadian Service" by Cameron Pulsifer?   It's only about 20 pages but is a great resource for model making.  The author had access to the last remaining Autocar at the Canadian War Museum, and has included a set of scale drawings in the centre spread, showing plan and profile for the vehicle.  I found it was well worth it when I did my own model (far inferior to yours, so am looking forward to getting a proper Autocar!

Publisher's website is here:
http://www.servicepub.com

(http://www.servicepub.com/images/autocar%20cover.jpg)
(http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/books/wow/images/wow017_03.jpg)
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Post by: 6milPhil on 21 March 2015, 04:09:07 AM
Ooh, that's got VBCW written all over it!

Exactly what I thought.
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Post by: fastolfrus on 21 March 2015, 08:09:34 AM
Exactly what I thought.

Or VSF - would be a  useful explorer vehicle for Mars
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 21 March 2015, 08:36:20 PM
Thank you,
But I should have mentioned that the Autocar,is a project from the free(ish)vehicle offer.The only reason its not posted on the offer is the fact its a bit battered.So I've not come across the book,mainly because the research has been done in exchange for castings.
The vehicle has been designed to allow conversion's without adding parts(As are all the vehicles in the range.)
In this case the whole side plate is made to be scored lightly from the reverse side so the plates can be repositioned,the rear cab,and tail gate are also abled to be repositioned.The driver and the front plank of the seat are one.
The steering wheel is built in,this allows you to put other figures in the vehicle without chopping it up.The crew have neck lines which allow for head swaps.
So changing them is really fast and simple.
Mark.
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Post by: armchairgeneral on 25 March 2015, 12:00:11 AM
Any pics yet of the Holt 5T?
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Post by: Atheling on 25 March 2015, 04:59:51 AM
Great stuff- it's things like some of the weird looking vehicles that are part of the attraction of The Great War.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: Will Bailie on 25 March 2015, 06:47:34 AM
Thanks for the info, Mark.  Head swaps are a great idea - will allow the vehicle to be fielded early war (with peaked hats) or later war (with helmets).  Another great option would be to provide both the original Colt MGs as well as the Vickers that replaced them! 
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 25 March 2015, 10:10:49 AM
As far as I knew the colts were replaced before active service in europe.But if thats not the case then it may be possible to add them later.The Vickers are on because of their shelf life,and the cross over appeal.Also they look a lot more interesting unmanned compared to the colt(at table level they can look very stick like in 28mm).
Mark.
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: Will Bailie on 25 March 2015, 04:25:00 PM
The CEF had Colts when they first arrived in France - they were found to be prone to jamming and were replaced with the more reliable Vickers around 1916.  I agree that the Vickers would be more useful:  due the nature of trench warfare, the CMMGB tended to dismount their MGs for action, and about the only time the Autocars saw actual combat was during the German spring offensive of 1918, when they mounted Vickers.  The rest of the time, the Autocars were mostly used to transport the MG brigade around.
Title: Re: Canadian Autocar
Post by: The Gray Ghost on 25 March 2015, 04:35:24 PM
That's cool you could hook several together to make a land train