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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Jack on 21 March 2015, 10:08:26 AM
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Tuesday night 21.00
BBC 2 After Bannockburn, Edward Bruce invades Ireland. Pt 1 of 2.
BBC 4 The Normans, from raiders to nobility. Pt 1 of 3.
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Oooh, the Ireland ones a must watch. Thanks for the tip.
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Really wish I could see that in the US. :(
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For those like me annoyed that the one week of the year there are two hours of history programming on and they're on AT THE SAME TIME...
The Normans is repeated at 3am on Wed and 11pm on Thur.
Those of you with Sky might find that the search won't locate "After Bannockburn" (despite offering it as a search choice!) because it's not on BBC2 England and the box knows where you live -- BBC2 Scotland is channel 970.
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Those of you with Sky might find that the search won't locate "After Bannockburn" (despite offering it as a search choice!) because it's not on BBC2 England and the box knows where you live -- BBC2 Scotland is channel 970.
Blimey, it's not on BBC2 Northern Ireland either. Odd, especially 'cos it concerns this place fairly closely. Ta for that 970 hint, though. :) (I wonder if it'd be more widely available on the BBC iPlayer?)
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Tuesday night 21.00
BBC 2 After Bannockburn, Edward Bruce invades Ireland. Pt 1 of 2.
BBC 4 The Normans, from raiders to nobility. Pt 1 of 3.
Excellent.... thanks matey 8).
[insert praying hands for no silly costumes!!] lol
Darrell.
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Trailer looks fine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02m34gd
Should be available on Iplayer soon after showing according to the BBC website.
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Roll on tomorrow!
Darrell.
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and Vikings series 2 starts tomorrow night on the History Channel !
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Will be watching out for these on the ol' iPlayer, since I'll miss them on Tuesday night. Thanks for the heads up, though, top job that man!
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Will be watching out for these on the ol' iPlayer, since I'll miss them on Tuesday night. Thanks for the heads up, though, top job that man!
Yeah, me too, got a couple of phone calls to pick up and will be painting otherwise.
Gonna download them though as it prevents the hick-ups on can get with straight streaming.
Darrell
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Well here goes with the hagiography...
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Dang it, you Brits get all the good medieval television!
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Dang it, you Brits get all the good medieval television!
No Bannockburn in the NE of England (unless I cannot read!) and i've seen the Norman series before- I'll be watching it on iPlayer though. do you guys not get BBC USA? Maybe it's on there? Or available as a DVD? I don't know- just a couple of suggestions :).
Darrell.
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No Bannockburn in the NE of England (unless I cannot read!) and i've seen the Norman series before- I'll be watching it on iPlayer though. do you guys not get BBC USA? Maybe it's on there? Or available as a DVD? I don't know- just a couple of suggestions :).
Nor me, down in Wessex.
Looks like it was just on in Scotland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/41ccq3Mkt2DV2Wz87XJ9m7H/medieval-scotland-s-vietnam-edward-bruce-s-invasion-of-ireland-in-1315
Although, now it's on iplayer.
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The end credits indicated it was co-produced by BBC Northern Ireland, which just multiplies my confusion about why it wasn't shown here.
Anyway, did anyone else see it? What'd you think? I can't refute the impression that the anglo-normans were a twirled moustache away from full pantomime villains, but I got a whiff of Game of Thrones combined with modern political grumbling anyway. I'm especially sceptical that the Bruces would've been so much the saviours of the celtic world, but we'll see if that changes any in part two.
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Nor me, down in Wessex.
Looks like it was just on in Scotland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/41ccq3Mkt2DV2Wz87XJ9m7H/medieval-scotland-s-vietnam-edward-bruce-s-invasion-of-ireland-in-1315
Although, now it's on iplayer.
Found it.... haven't watched it yet but it's a very interesting episode in Medieval military history... though implying that it was Scotland's Vietman is a beyond the Pale ;) :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05p3d0l/after-bannockburn-episode-1
Darrell.
Darrell.
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I almost cannot believe what I'm typing as historical military programmes are often way off the mark but having just watched the programme I have to say that I was impressed!!!
Armours and Weapons that match the period with nothing 'out of period'- check!
military History that matches what I have read- check!
A real Late Medieval flavour- check!
Ticked about 90% of the boxes. Recommended viewing!!
Darrell.
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Beyond the pale - I see what you did there :D
Bit Irish centric, "greater Scotia" indeed, but bloody good all the same.
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Beyond the pale - I see what you did there :D
Bit Irish centric, "greater Scotia" indeed, but bloody good all the same.
Yeah, but they were referring back to earlier centuries when the Scotti invaded Southern Scotland not to the time of Bruce. i do agree that Greater Scotia is a bit of s silly term but i guess they had to convey their ideas in a more powerful way than just saying that the Scots had quite strong trading ties with the Irish. As I say, about 90% good.
Darrell.
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I'm especially sceptical that the Bruces would've been so much the saviours of the celtic world, but we'll see if that changes any in part two.
Right? From my readings. It seems that they just went head first into the feudal and clan politics. And Alienated lots of the strong family's of the south. While decimating local agriculture to their own detriment.
I am looking forward to seeing the doc
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Right? From my readings. It seems that they just went head first into the feudal and clan politics. And Alienated lots of the strong family's of the south. While decimating local agriculture to their own detriment.
I am looking forward to seeing the doc
They did do this to an extent but they did also put an emphasis on the nobility on Scotland being largely of Norman stock being capable of anything to put forward their families claims and forward the prestige of their respective houses, though they did certainly over-indulge in the quantity and quality of Gaelic influence on these men that that saw them selves as the ruling class just like the Normans did in England.
I think one major failing was not to mention, Wallace's Norman background (though of minor nobility), so yeah, you are right in saying that this was played down. Though, it has to be said, Wallace's contribution to the struggle was only mentioned briefly, which given his modern status as freedom fighter, is a little strange. He was of course of major consequence in influencing Bruce's tactics by example of the Battle of Stirling Bridge.
Darrell.
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Oops, as I said I have not seen it yet. Thought it would start with the action in Ireland.
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Ah. It ended when he just got really stuck into Ireland. :) (Talk about 'Scotland's Vietnam'... They also compared Robert's landing at Larne to D-Day!) Much of the rest of it was the origins of the Bruces, early life, and Bannockburn. But I know what you were talking about - even a quick read of the font of all knowledge, wikipedia, indicates the native Irish came to despise him, mostly because of the number of them he slaughtered. Given the overtones of hero worship in this thing, that's what I mean when I wonder if it'll come up in part II.