Lead Adventure Forum
Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: The Red Graf on 26 March 2015, 01:16:34 AM
-
I'm surprised that nobody has started a thread on this one so far. They look to make over $500K in the first 24 hrs. Some gorgeous Fantasy Sculpts there.
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/499/265/8b635911a2a4fd5d0b8f358b04c8f1de_original.jpg?v=1427293680&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=55fb9f0e9f1b80da9f479b501d868b71)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/499/257/38e641c524cd109fb90450f5d4782a8e_original.jpg?v=1427293641&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=676c44ac4aa2df281363b996e785aad6)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/500/940/6ee05098da1490caacdd43ff3971f5fc_original.jpg?v=1427305891&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=c100be4db84b91d728f138a65624f826)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/501/341/6623440a567d2646079ffd1cf0ec00a6_original.jpg?v=1427309077&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=7d5951fded2ac805008ba74731d65966)
-
How are 3 sisters of the orphanage $20 where there are 3 MOUNTED dark elves at $25 seems to be a very odd pricing structure, there must be 6x the amount of material in the mounted elves, from a printing and casting perspective, that price makes no sense.
-
Have a look at the estimated retail under each price. I believe it's a special for the KS.
Some interesting sculpting there, I quite like the machines and walkers :)
cheers
James
-
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/499/265/8b635911a2a4fd5d0b8f358b04c8f1de_original.jpg?v=1427293680&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=55fb9f0e9f1b80da9f479b501d868b71)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/499/257/38e641c524cd109fb90450f5d4782a8e_original.jpg?v=1427293641&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=676c44ac4aa2df281363b996e785aad6)
Am I the only one who sees a floating vagina with swords stuck in it!?
THis is really not for me. The small minion types look interesting though.
-
Not my "cup of tea"... :-I
Basically all a 40k or Fantasy Battle rip off.
In addition a Company with a very bad pledge fulfilment record, I will skip this one for sure. ;)
-
Am I the only one who sees a floating vagina with swords stuck in it!?
Funnily enough, last time I had a rummage in the missus's bush, there was this little woman stuck full of daggers. :o
If I still played fantasy, I could well have been onboard for this, the lust elves would make fantastic daemons. Not massively into tits and ass exploitation in minis (and there's plenty around even in the metal historical stuff), but these are good sculpts, and the KS prices are reasonable in my mind. Keeping a watch on it, see what freebies are unlocked in the next few days before I decide.
-
No one posted the link yet? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/tgg2-light-and-darkness/description
Some of the concept art is very nice, and they do good sculpting. I am not overly fond of figures which are over-sexualized so will likely pass on this one. We will see what comes of it though.
-
Blimey, are these over the top! They manage to make the Kingdom Death stuff look restrained!
-
Personally I like the hyper sexual look. Each to their own I suppose.
-
Actually there WAS a thread posted on it ;)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=76551.0
As I said in that one, it's just too much... everything. It's not even the sex - I know too well lots of wargamers go in for girls n garters armies, so that particular predilection is really old hat and doesn't faze me. No, for me what ruins this is the "take the GW aesthetic and push it even farther then GW DARES!!!!1one" that wears me out. Skulls and belts and pouches and enormous weapons and dramatically fluttering drapery and porno magazines random bits of freaking architecture and a couple of cans of Red Bull (can and all) all stuffed in a blender and the "PUREE" button smashed so hard that it shatters.
It's all rather juvenile. You expect there to be some sort of stirring, but amateurish heavy metal anthem playing when you see the minis.
The sculpt quality is sound and better than average, I'll happily concede that. I could see using a small number of the minis, but only in concert with much more ordinary ones, to highlight the absurd excess of it all, perhaps as daemons or lunatics, as Nord suggests. But given their pledge fulfillment record, I will wait for retail if I ever bother at all.
-
The art style of most "new gen" fantasy/other skirmish games usually switches me off. Everything is WAY too busy in terms of excessive detail, and it ends up looking farcically cartoonish. Usually the poses are so bizarre that I can't even tell if they are fighting or dancing in a World of Warcraft-meets-Anime themed ballet.
-
What Duke, Fram and Gibby said. +1.
-
I personally don't mind the (over-) sexualisation. I'm more puzzled by the silliness and lack of imagination.
I find it a bit depressing how little creativity there is in these derivative ventures (this one, Mantic, Shieldword and the likes). Is there really nothing left to explore outside GW dark elves and sister of battles on steroids, ORKKKs with even more Ks, white lions or poorly proportioned space skaven?
Given the success of some of these projects, I must be in a minority in thinking that novel concepts and aesthetics would be welcome. It is probably a good thing I'm not making a living in marketing.
-
What Duke, Fram and Gibby said. +1.
Make that +2.
It's all rather juvenile. You expect there to be some sort of stirring, but amateurish heavy metal anthem playing when you see the minis.
Presumably Bolt Thrower, right?
-
re: pledge fulfillment
I never really followed the last one, but it looks like it is a year past the date they anticipated delivering? Seems pretty long to wait, though they only slotted about 8 months to deliver the first one. Maybe they funded more than they anticipated considering the delivery goal...
Considering this one is being forcasted as a year until delivery, that might help. But I also don't really see the appeal of putting up $200 just to wait over a year to get what I ordered, unless it is a really good deal..
Personally I like the hyper sexual look. Each to their own I suppose.
It might have something to do with me having 3 kids under the age of 4 now, including a new daughter. ;)
-
Mine are 7,8,9, I missed the losing interest in sex phase apparently. ;)
-
I've got three kids myself (11, 13, 16) but I don't think this should directly affect my tastes in minis :-I. This being said, these minis may be sexualised but I don't find them sexy.
-
I find it a bit depressing how little creativity there is in these derivative ventures (this one, Mantic, Shieldword and the likes). Is there really nothing left to explore outside GW dark elves and sister of battles on steroids, ORKKKs with even more Ks, white lions or poorly proportioned space skaven?
Agreed, very much.
I've got three kids myself (11, 13, 16) but I don't think this should directly affect my tastes in minis
Also agreed. If wargaming minis are tickling someone's, er, fancy, the number of kids is a lesser concern in the matter. :-I
;)
-
I personally don't mind the (over-) sexualisation. I'm more puzzled by the silliness and lack of imagination.
I find it a bit depressing how little creativity there is in these derivative ventures (this one, Mantic, Shieldword and the likes). Is there really nothing left to explore outside GW dark elves and sister of battles on steroids, ORKKKs with even more Ks, white lions or poorly proportioned space skaven?
Given the success of some of these projects, I must be in a minority in thinking that novel concepts and aesthetics would be welcome. It is probably a good thing I'm not making a living in marketing.
Yes! The sculptor clearly has some skill, (though as Gibby rightly points out the poses are, well, posed - they're not natural and are actually sort of painful to look at), so it's a shame to see it wasted in service of something so unimaginative and tawdry.
"I guess ex sells, eh boys? Slap a pair of tits on a pile of screaming skullz and call it a day, hur hur hur."
Presumably Bolt Thrower, right?
lol lol lol Perfect!
these minis may be sexualised but I don't find them sexy.
Exactly. It's like the worst of all possible worlds.
-
It must be quite difficult for a company that wants to deal in fantasy to come up with something that is unique. GW have been doing it for 30(?) years and have pretty much explored/exploited all the fantasy tropes, so it's hard to bring something new to the arena. While I agree that many companies produce similar to GW products, I reckon that's inevitable. First to market are almost bound to use up all the ideas, it's difficult to follow that and be unique. Unless they invent their own races, as per Warmachine/Hordes/Malifaux, which then becomes an acquired taste. So in some ways, though you can say that they are ripping off dark elves, it's not their fault they have some late to the market. What they are producing is down to personal taste, I rate the sculpts, I quite like the concepts, they are no more ridiculous than GW's current stuff, which gets more and more OTT with each release.
-
I find the minions to be quite spiffy, but the rest are just not my cuppa.