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Title: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 03, 2008, 12:58:05 PM
Searching the Illustrated London News library, I found the image:

http://www.ilnpictures.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductDetailID=81508
Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia.

who is wearing the Prussian Death Hussar Uniform. This search made me think. I am always fond of female miniatures  and always like to see and have more minis for my lead adventures. In some genres like pulp etc there is an adequate number of female minis. Alas the manufacturers (apart Foundry and some few others) do not issue lots of minis of various ladies suitable for genre.
Since, VSF is a fantasy period, we can overcome the social stereotypes of the era and ask to have minis of ladies in Regular Army uniforms and more female minis doing jobs other than .

Anyhow, England was invaded by the prussians who are marching against London.
It is obvious that the Queen (Gaud bless 'er) will need all manpower to repell invaders. Are they enough? Does She needs more power, and where to find it? The answer is obvious. Womanpower!!!!

So, what you think?? SHould we appeal for some ladies in uniforms????
Please advise!!!

[please behave yourselves. Do not post obvious remarks, non political correct ones and be serious, please. ALso note that since as you already know my mother language is not English, some expressions I have posted might be not quite clear.Please forgive.]
 
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: JollyBob on October 03, 2008, 01:07:09 PM
I think it's a fine idea.  :)

Since there were regiments drawn from the great houses of the royalty (like the one that went missing in the Dardanelles - what were they called? David Jason was in them...) I can imagine in times of great need a regiment drawn from the ladies maids, scullery girls and housekeepers of Balmoral, Sandringham or Buck House.

An auxilliary service like the WRVS would be a good place to start, but obviously, since its for VSF, they could be beefed up with some decent firepower and clockwork transport. 
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 01:08:31 PM
And mighty fine said Princess Viktoria looks in that photo.

I very much agree with you, we need  Female figures in uniform. Who else is Harry Flashman going to try and seduce?

I would certainly buy them. I think an email to John Lowen of Ironclad miniatures is in order.He is building his range.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: JollyBob on October 03, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
Something like this would look good:

(http://website.lineone.net/~remosliema/images/Wrens.1.jpg)


Although that image is from WW1, the basic look of the uniform could be quite similar.  :)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 01:20:31 PM
I'm still trying to get over the image of Princess Viktoria in that hussars uniform and the thoughts that are going through my mind  :o ;D mind you she looks very innocent in that picture. o_o lol
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 03, 2008, 01:24:42 PM
I'm still trying to get over the image of Princess Viktoria in that hussars uniform and the thoughts that are going through my mind  :o ;D mind you she looks very innocent in that picture. o_o lol

Malamute have you read the caption?

I do not know whether is innocent, but beautiful, yes!
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 03, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
Great thing! Now, if you consider the level of commitment women showed in the suffragette movement, think what they would do to an invader! ;)

Maybe also a "fifth column" thing, undermining the Prussian war effort in Britain. I seem to recall there“s a book by Frederick Forsyth on a woman commando hit squad trying to infiltrate a chateau housing a Wehrmacht command post via posing as the cleaning company. Something like that.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 01:34:24 PM
I'm still trying to get over the image of Princess Viktoria in that hussars uniform and the thoughts that are going through my mind  :o ;D mind you she looks very innocent in that picture. o_o lol

Malamute have you read the caption?

I do not know whether is innocent, but beautiful, yes!
lol lol

I am going to stop making anymore salacious comments about laides and uniforms as Thunderchicken will be around here later on and will no doubt have something to say ;)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 03, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
Or something like that:

http://www.met.police.uk/history/women_police.htm

Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Will Bailie on October 03, 2008, 02:40:56 PM
How about these ladies:

http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/en/image_541.asp?page_id=586

(also noted by Mr Chadwick in the Soldier's Companion)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 02:42:46 PM
How about these ladies:

http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/en/image_541.asp?page_id=586

(also noted by Mr Chadwick in the Soldier's Companion)

Now you're talking - Women in uniform and guns ;D
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on October 03, 2008, 02:58:35 PM
Didn't foundry do young lady armed with a pistol in a Hussar uniform, with a similarly clad brother? Or was it Eureka? Or have I just lost it?

 :-I
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Skrapwelder on October 03, 2008, 03:07:41 PM
Didn't foundry do young lady armed with a pistol in a Hussar uniform, with a similarly clad brother? Or was it Eureka? Or have I just lost it?

 :-I
Yes, there was a Foundry pair of Victorian spies. I have been told they are a special release for Wargames Illustrated. I would very much like to find a set.
(http://www.kevindallimore.co.uk/MODELS/VICTORIANA/images/WI%202001%20MODELS.jpg)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 03:22:38 PM
Didn't foundry do young lady armed with a pistol in a Hussar uniform, with a similarly clad brother? Or was it Eureka? Or have I just lost it?

 :-I
Yes, there was a Foundry pair of Victorian spies. I have been told they are a special release for Wargames Illustrated. I would very much like to find a set.
(http://www.kevindallimore.co.uk/MODELS/VICTORIANA/images/WI%202001%20MODELS.jpg)

Look no further then than the Foundry website as they are now available to buy along with all their other not available special edition figures.  ;)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 03, 2008, 03:25:51 PM
There is also this one:
(http://www.witchhunter.net/images/figurenmacher/steve_buddle/CCIV.jpg)

Other pics:
http://www.jenova.dk/gallery/spyglass/ccgirl.htm

Unfortunately, it was also a limited edition.

Does anyone make the Deaths Head Hussars?
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Malamute on October 03, 2008, 03:28:51 PM

Does anyone make the Deaths Head Hussars?

She's nice.

Foundry have hussars in their FPW range that are as close as I know.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on October 03, 2008, 03:29:45 PM


Look no further then than the Foundry website as they are now available to buy along with all their other not available special edition figures.  ;)


... at a very low price, I'm sure  lol

At least  they do actually exist  ::)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Skrapwelder on October 03, 2008, 03:46:58 PM
The Perry's do Napoleonic Brunswickers. Viktoria Luise married Ernest Augustus the last reigning monarch of the House of Hanover.

Malamute thanks for the heads up on availability at Foundry. Its a bullet I'll have to bite.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Mancha on October 03, 2008, 04:33:01 PM
There is also this one:
(http://www.witchhunter.net/images/figurenmacher/steve_buddle/CCIV.jpg)

This minis is still available in her second form from Armorcast:

http://armorcast.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=72&products_id=724&osCsid=b6d05a0ab7e9f5fd04a877d94ac4d418

(http://armorcast.com/store/images/HussarMultiview.jpg)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 03, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
Ah, that's who got it, I knew someone was selling the left over stock. It's nice, but not as good as the first one (which thankfully I got one of).
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Chairface on October 03, 2008, 05:54:04 PM
I've never seen a problem with incorporating female figs into a VSF setting.

I have the chick challenge 1 fig, and the foundry fig! I need Chick challenge 2 and maybe that new Reaper female fig, and I have half of a unit.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 03, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
Quote
The Perry's do Napoleonic Brunswickers. Viktoria Luise married Ernest Augustus the last reigning monarch of the House of Hanover.

No furry hats there....
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 04, 2008, 02:12:49 AM
It seems that this thread became popular, 21 messages and 194 views !

Something I found on the web:

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/?action=view&current=cc_ordinal_pocket_pistol.jpg

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/?action=view&current=cc_ordinal_machine_engine_rifle.jpg

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/?action=view&current=cc_ordinal_clockwork_blunderbuss.jpg

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/?action=view&current=cc_ordinal_bee_gun.jpg

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/?action=view&current=cc_ordinal_22_target_rifle.jpg

These are not mine, of course. I found them in the:
http://ccslfashionista.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html [warning not work safe]

Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 04, 2008, 02:22:22 AM
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/cc_ordinal_22_target_rifle.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/cc_ordinal_pocket_pistol.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/cc_ordinal_machine_engine_rifle.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/cc_ordinal_clockwork_blunderbuss.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/VSF%20women/cc_ordinal_bee_gun.jpg)

hope they are here!
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Snate56 on October 04, 2008, 06:47:10 AM
I play games like Wierd War II and Rocketship: Empires and could use a better selection of women in uniform; I've only been able to find a couple. But I need then dressed like the guys, not in skirts. Of course I would also like to find a few nurses, doctors and such, too.

I think we need more behind the lines folks, anyway.

Hey, didn't somebody do a MASH unit?


SteveN
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 04, 2008, 10:44:04 PM
For VSF nurses and doctors you can use the one produced  by OG  [WW1-314 & ww1-113]

Sorry I do not know any suitable mini for MASH [Apart Shadowforge and GZG for some "sexy" GI nurses]
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Mancha on October 05, 2008, 12:07:16 AM
Anyhow, England was invaded by the prussians who are marching against London.

It is obvious that the Queen (Gaud bless 'er) will need all manpower to repell invaders. Are they enough? Does She needs more power, and where to find it? The answer is obvious. Womanpower!!!!

So, what you think?? SHould we appeal for some ladies in uniforms????
Please advise!!!


After that Death's Head Hussars uniform (which is pretty darn cool), these zouaves ain't bad:

(http://www.brigadegames.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/BG-ACW_women_kepi.jpg)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: bandit86 on October 05, 2008, 10:28:56 AM
I did the 1st CC hussar girl and added a Busby. I'll have to dig her out ansd take a picture.  It really is a nice figure.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 05, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
I did the 1st CC hussar girl and added a Busby. I'll have to dig her out ansd take a picture.  It really is a nice figure.

Anxiously waiting for your photos
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Bullshott on October 05, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
The female zouaves from Brigade Games that Mancha posted a picture of are also available with fezes:

(http://www.brigadegames.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/BG-ACW006_lg_P.jpg)

I must get round to getting some to go in the VSF French army I will be working on in the near future ...Chasseurs Parisienne?

For 19th century nurses how about the pack of nuns in Westwind's Gothic Horror range?
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 06, 2008, 12:09:30 AM
I don't know they look nuns! [I must say that thet might work well for french nurses, they used to have these "large wings" ]'

The OG british nurse is a good nurse, alas is only one in every pack!
OG does german and french as well!
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: bandit86 on October 06, 2008, 07:20:12 AM
I did these a few years ago for the chick chalenge it was a very fun contest and a great figure.  I hope the photos come out smaller I tried to change my settings I hope it works.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/opzol2.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/9uadrr.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/10e3az9.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2hs15yb.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/15ydj01.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/5zmzw4.jpg)
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Thunderchicken on October 06, 2008, 01:25:03 PM
I'm still trying to get over the image of Princess Viktoria in that hussars uniform and the thoughts that are going through my mind  :o ;D mind you she looks very innocent in that picture. o_o lol

Malamute have you read the caption?

I do not know whether is innocent, but beautiful, yes!
lol lol

I am going to stop making anymore salacious comments about laides and uniforms as Thunderchicken will be around here later on and will no doubt have something to say ;)

Malamute my warped friend, the fact I haven't said anything must have kept you in suspense all weekend.

Anyway, there's some great ideas on this thread, a female Prussian hussar unit with the deaths head uniform has something sinister about it I like. The fact I'm outstandingly crap at any type of figure conversion might hold me back from putting a unit like this together.
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: Argonor on October 06, 2008, 01:34:17 PM
Didn't foundry do young lady armed with a pistol in a Hussar uniform, with a similarly clad brother? Or was it Eureka? Or have I just lost it?

 :-I
Yes, there was a Foundry pair of Victorian spies. I have been told they are a special release for Wargames Illustrated. I would very much like to find a set.
(http://www.kevindallimore.co.uk/MODELS/VICTORIANA/images/WI%202001%20MODELS.jpg)

You can buy them from Foundry's website. Look under Victorian Specials
Title: Re: women in VSF
Post by: argsilverson on October 06, 2008, 02:00:07 PM

Anyway, there's some great ideas on this thread, a female Prussian hussar unit with the deaths head uniform has something sinister about it I like. The fact I'm outstandingly crap at any type of figure conversion might hold me back from putting a unit like this together.


Gentlemen and Ladies,
I started the present topic so, help me, to make some conclusions:
the only one I have in mind:

Ask your friend/favorite manufacturer/sculptor etc and try to persuade him/her/them to make and include in their ranges some:
deathhead hussars females, a women uniat of infantry plus some suitable nurses!

Please free to add, but please pray and persuade the manufacturers to release figures in units and characters!