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Title: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 17 May 2015, 08:15:13 PM
Hello Everyone. I've got one Perry Miniatures French Dragoon essentially done, except for basing and varnish, and I thought I'd post to get feedback. :)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/aetrekkie/DragoonTest01_zpsgntpgdb3.jpg)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/aetrekkie/Dragoontest02_zps2fodx66a.jpg)

Do you see anything obviously wrong? He's for 2nd Dragoons. Before I continue with the whole unit, I'd like to know if  I've made any errors. I can take it, I'd like him to be correct. If anyone can offer tips or corrections, I appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Captain Canada on 18 May 2015, 01:12:14 PM
It looks good.  A couple points that might help:

Put a wash on the wool saddle cover and then highlight back with the same colour. 
I think the riding trousers are deerskin, and would be more buff than gray.

That having been said I would be happy to play with those figures

Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 18 May 2015, 01:27:03 PM
:D Thanx! Those are easy fixes, the riders aren't glued down yet. 13 more to do, they are mostly based with Black on the metallic area and Scarlet where appropriate.

Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Arthur on 18 May 2015, 03:10:59 PM
You've got him about right. If you want to be finicky about it, the shoulder straps should be green piped red rather than solid red. The breeches were indeed either deerskin or sheepskin but some artists render them with a greyish tinge, possibly to reflect aging. I'd opt for a dull shade of buff myself but that's just a personal preference. 

(http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/UniformesFR/Dragons02(Ligne).png)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 18 May 2015, 03:39:09 PM
You've got him about right. If you want to be finicky about it, the shoulder straps should be green piped red rather than solid red. The breeches were indeed either deerskin or sheepskin but some artists render them with a greyish tinge, possibly to reflect aging. I'd opt for a dull shade of buff myself but that's just a personal preference. 

(http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/UniformesFR/Dragons02(Ligne).png)

Oh, that's a nice reference, thank you!

I could fix the shoulder boards easily enough. I have the Osprey about Dragoons and Lancers, but the only thing I had on 2nd Dragoons was the back of the Perry box.

I guess I need the little numbers on the saddle cloth, too?
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Arthur on 18 May 2015, 03:56:07 PM
If you're enough of a masochist to feel like painting regimental numbers on both the saddlecloth and portmanteau, by all means knock yourself out  lol

I hotlinked the plate above from Alexis Cabaret's Mont Saint-Jean website, which is a superb online resource for the 1815 campaign:

http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/index.php (http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/index.php)

I don't think it has an English language option but if you click on the Unités/Nation button everything is very intuitive from then on. 
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 18 May 2015, 04:26:14 PM
Bookmarked, thank you. :)

Maybe I can find little number decals that would work.....
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Dave C on 18 May 2015, 04:33:54 PM
Lovely work Anna. Can you share with us how you got the brass helmets to look so lifelike?
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 18 May 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Lovely work Anna. Can you share with us how you got the brass helmets to look so lifelike?


Thanx! :)

Yes, it's pretty easy. I basecoated with Vallejo Model Air Black, it dries pretty quickly, but I'd think whatevers acrylic you're using will work.

After, I used Vallejo Model Color Brass, and overbrushed, like wet drybrushing, if that makes sense, over the Black. This one had probably 2 coats.

After that was dry, I did the turban, and washed the whole helmet with Secret Weapon Flesh Wash, and after that was dry I took a fine brush and refined the edges and detail with more Brass and just a spot of Model Air Steel, just a spot or two here-and-there. :)

The Brass and Model Air Steel flow well.

EDIT: Here's the video where I learned how to overbrush metallics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkbchblEZC4
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Greystreak on 19 May 2015, 11:36:39 AM
That's a fine job, Anna, and I wouldn't worry about the trouser overalls colour--the French wore everything from grey to 'natural' linen white overalls over top of their precious deerskin breeches to preserve them.

If you're comfortable 'freehanding' numbers on the shabraque, give it a try; you can always go over the white numbers in green again if it doesn't work out to your satisfaction.  I used to worry that my freehand numbers/letters were too naff, but with a little practice you may surprise yourself. I'm a very average painter, yet was still able to get the 'royal monogram'--'A' for Alexander I--on some Russian Dragoons (below), so experiment and see how it goes for you.  :)

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq201/Greystreak_photos/Irkutsk%20Dragoon%20Regt/IrkutskDR5.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 19 May 2015, 01:42:02 PM
I wouldn't call those Russians "average". They look superb. :)

And thank you. :) I think I will try free-handing the numbers, nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: olicana on 19 May 2015, 05:52:06 PM
Good job, Anna. Now get down and give me 11 more, you can do it! :D
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 19 May 2015, 05:59:48 PM
Good job, Anna. Now get down and give me 11 more, you can do it! :D

13 more! XD

And thank you. :)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: gustav on 20 May 2015, 11:51:52 AM
Have to say nice job.

If you can work out how to do the numerals can you let me know :)
I gave up at doing mine freehand - just could not get them right in the space on the valise.
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 20 May 2015, 11:54:27 AM
Have to say nice job.

If you can work out how to do the numerals can you let me know :)
I gave up at doing mine freehand - just could not get them right in the space on the valise.

Thanx Gustav.

*If* I get the freehand numerals to work, I'll let you know. If not, I'm still thinking small decals. :)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Kobiyashi1 on 20 May 2015, 12:43:44 PM
Have you bought some extra Figures? In the plastics box are only 13 horses.

By the way, nice paint job. The macro reveals, as always, some minor mistakes (sattle cloth). You can try to avoid it by painting very thin black colorbetween the green and white.
For the wool i use a buff color und simple drybrush with ivory.

I have painted some myself for the 13th Dragoons. I like the combination of green and pink.
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 20 May 2015, 12:48:30 PM
Hi Kobiyashi. :)

I bought two boxes, actually, and took one from the second box so that both units rank evenly. 2nd Dragoons had more troopers at Waterloo than 7th, anyway.

That's a good idea for the wool, thank you. :)

I bet your 13th look good!
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Calimero on 20 May 2015, 03:48:14 PM

This test figure look pretty good indeed. Very nice work! 8)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: janner on 21 May 2015, 05:58:26 AM
Very nicely done :)

I'd recommend using washes on all the metals, such as the swords, going back to touch them up, as you've done.

For sheepskins, I start with a beige, going through a beige/white mix to finish with a final highlight of off white. Pure white can look a little too bright on sheepskins, in my opinion.

I'd endorse grey's encouragement to paint the numbers. If you're like me, you'll make the odd mistake, but it's no drama to either tidy it up with the background colour or even paint over and try again after a few minutes ;)
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Kobiyashi1 on 21 May 2015, 12:03:30 PM
I have new photos for my thread, so you can look for the Dragoons. Macro ist still a bitch.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=45677.0
Title: Re: Perry Dragoon Tester
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 21 May 2015, 01:00:24 PM
Good Morning Guys, and thank you.

I'll be going over the sheepskin and such soon, I appreciate all the tips. :) I will try the numerals, nothing to lose.

Kobiyashi, your forces are very impressive! I like the 13th Dragoons, with the pink facings, they are striking. :)

I'm so flighty, I've been working on my Brit Infantry for the Sudan. So many projects XD