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Title: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 21 May 2015, 05:51:33 AM
Here are some War of the Roses miniatures I have painted.(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/MichaelTerrett/image.jpg1_zpsvvpkrlt0.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/MichaelTerrett/media/image.jpg1_zpsvvpkrlt0.jpg.html)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/MichaelTerrett/image.jpg1_zpskz9y6x5t.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/MichaelTerrett/media/image.jpg1_zpskz9y6x5t.jpg.html)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/MichaelTerrett/image.jpg1_zpsnbwnnztf.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/MichaelTerrett/media/image.jpg1_zpsnbwnnztf.jpg.html) sorry hope it works, not very good with computers.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: von Lucky on 21 May 2015, 10:00:25 AM
It's worked.

Lovely painting and shading on that armour. The bases seem a little plain - but on the table I guess it'll blend in.

What size bases are they and where they from?
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Anna Elizabeth on 21 May 2015, 02:15:07 PM
Nicely done! I especially like that armor. :)

Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 21 May 2015, 04:58:18 PM
Thanks for your comments. They are Games Workshop bases.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Atheling on 21 May 2015, 11:00:33 PM
Great stuff. Keep up the good work  8) 8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: MajorB on 24 May 2015, 03:57:08 PM
Nice painting. Are they meant to be any specific liveries or just what looks nice?
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 24 May 2015, 05:46:49 PM
Thank you Major B the mercenarys at the top are made up. The blue bows and bills are for use as the Liverie of Thomas Talbot. Red seem to have been quite popular; the Earl of Oxford, the Earl of Warwick, Sir William stanly and the city of Canterbury. Of these I find the Earl of Warwick most interesting. I realise I am no Captin Blood so that's why I don't paint any badges on the coats and steer clear of split colours.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Captain Blood on 25 May 2015, 12:10:02 PM
Well it's an effective, tidy style, and looks good. I really like the boldness of the approach. It's not finicky and detailed, but truthfully, the figures are so nice, that under a straightforward, neat paintjob like this, they really speak for themselves.
Look forward to seeing more  :)
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: commissarmoody on 25 May 2015, 07:37:56 PM
Quick and simple, very Nicely done. And if you're worried a out confusion. About units on the table just add some banners too a stand or two denoting who which side they are this week.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 25 May 2015, 08:55:01 PM
Thank you. Half way through some foot knights at the moment will add photos when they are finished.

Michael
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses, foot Knights added 14.8.15
Post by: Knight of St John on 14 August 2015, 07:38:03 PM
Hi I have just finished some foot knights. Now started on a few casualtys and would like to say a big thank you to Mick Campbell for giving me some parts I had lost.<a href="http://s44.photobucket.com/user/MichaelTerrett/media/image.jpg1_zpsnbwnnztf.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/MichaelTerrett/image.jpg1_zpsnbwnnztf.jpg" border="0" alt="WotR4 photo image.jpg1_zpsnbwnnztf.jpg"/>[/url]
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 14 August 2015, 07:45:45 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/MichaelTerrett/image.jpg1_zpswmlgfo6q.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/MichaelTerrett/media/image.jpg1_zpswmlgfo6q.jpg.html) Hope it worked this time.
 
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Charlie_ on 14 August 2015, 08:08:07 PM
Wow, very smart!

This is the first time I've seen these Perry miniatures formed up for battle in large numbers so neatly, and it's very inspiring!
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Nord on 14 August 2015, 08:14:48 PM
I like the figures, very much indeed. Not sold on the basing I have to confess, sorry.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 14 August 2015, 08:32:25 PM
Thank you and thanks for being honest Nord I relalise I have areas I am not very good at and need to improve.
Michael.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: fred on 14 August 2015, 09:46:30 PM
I do like the look of the foot knights.

Regarding the basing - I don't think its a case of being not good. Its more of a style thing - current basing tends to be more broken up, with areas of bare earth with various shades, tufts and areas of flock. Whereas yours is a pretty solid dark green - (probably over sand?). Yours is neat and sets the figures off - but its quite plain, and perhaps not that natural looking.

A couple of quick things to try, try dry-brushing the green with a yellow/green to highlight the texture you have. Or try adding some tufts of grass (or flowers) this will give some height and break things up.

Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: killshot on 15 August 2015, 02:28:15 AM
Nice work, I'm sure the army looks fantastic en mass. 
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Gallahad on 15 August 2015, 05:10:21 AM
The knights and foot-knights are really the high points of the army.  Great realistic shading on their armor.  As others have said, the army is really let down by the bases.  Even a simple PVA glue+static grass would dramatically improve the look of the army.

Something like this:  http://www.miniaturemarket.com/gf992001.html (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/gf992001.html) would increase the visual appeal of the army substantially.
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: von Lucky on 15 August 2015, 08:27:29 AM
Michael - we're sounding overly harsh - your painting is nice. There's a few tutorials on YouTube on simple basing techniques, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQik48B_M0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLyo9epuqqA

The product Gallahad suggests with or without flowers/lichen/small green foam clumps or similar is relatively simple to add ontop of your bases. As stated, all you need is white (craft) glue, an old brush and your choice of basing material(s).
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Captain Blood on 15 August 2015, 09:32:08 AM
Harsh indeed  :?

Given that Michael has gone for a striking, uniform, almost 'toy soldierly' look to his painting (and I mean that in a good way), I think the block green grass basing suits the figures well.

It's not what we're used to, granted, with our grit-and-static-grass-tuft basing orthodoxy ;)
But is it any the worse for that? It looks like the figures are standing on a coarse lawn or in a meadow. Personally, I like it.
(And if you look closely, I think the green has been drybrushed with a lighter colour).

I would say it needs a wee bit more depth to the basing texture - because you can still just about make out the integral bases on the figures.
But I have no issue with the uniformity of finish and colour. To my eye, it suits the style in which the figures have been painted.

I think the whole collection looks really effective. I bet they'll look striking on the tabletop when the whole lot are complete. Looking forward to seeing that.


Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Nord on 15 August 2015, 09:43:09 AM
I don't think a change would necessarily be an improvement, as CB has said it's a a different style that suits the figures and the style of painting. As with anything in your own collection, if you like it, stuff everybody else and stick with it - forge your own narrative (as some might say). On the other hand, if you do want to change, there are plenty of guides around on t'web, and plenty of places to buy static grass or tufts to give it a different look. A more natural look, which is different to yours, not necessarily better. I was merely voicing my own opinion, I hope it didn't come across as harsh, just commentary.



Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Charlie_ on 15 August 2015, 01:22:23 PM
Do you have a picture of all the units together? That must look good.

For what it's worth, if you did decide to add to the basing or other parts of the models, it looks like it will be easy to add extra layers of depth. Example - a quick wash on all the flesh areas followed by a lighter highlight would add loads, and it looks like they are all lining up ready for this next stage! :)
Title: Re: Perrys War of the Roses
Post by: Knight of St John on 15 August 2015, 04:15:40 PM
Thank you all for the advice. I will add a picture of all the collection so far but it will be a couple of weeks due to work and the Boswoth thing next Saturday.
Michael.