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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Iain R on May 29, 2015, 03:50:41 PM
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Having belatedly picked up the rules a few months ago (after waiting with baited breath for them, then promptly missing them on release while too busy concentrating on Cold War stuff...) I've found that the small unit sizes are perfect for someone of my glacial painting pace to put together a finished force (yay!)
As I'm a big fan of Claymore Castings, and have been slavishly buying pretty much every release since they debuted, I already had the bones of a force, which I had pretty much no idea what I was going to do with prior to LR being released. As a result I was able to split my existing 20 man pike block to gve me two units straight off the bat, with some extra men-at-arms thrown in to make up numbers. A couple of extra blisters later, and I've put together a reasonably plausible 24 point Scots force of the late 1380s... (there is an accompanying English force in the cupboard awaiting a start date)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/LR%20Scots%20so%20far_zpswjs6vxcq.jpg)
Back row are two units of foot serjeants, centre is a unit of mercenary French crossbowmen, while the front rank consists of a unit of expert foot serjeants (will represent the liveried retinue of the Earl of Douglas) and a unit of dismounted men-at-arms.
Whilst fleshing out the aforementioned English force, I've ended up with sufficient extra figures to do a further unit of men-at-arms and some command figures for the crossbowmen, but that's a bit away yet...
Close up pics to follow shortly.
Cheers
Iain
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Great stuff Iain :-*
Cannot wait to see them fully arrayed and coloured in :)
Darrell.
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Thanks, Darrell! As promised, some close-ups of the first schiltrom (the second still needs some finishing touches).
This schiltrom is led by Sir John Montgomery of Eaglesham; a pretty easy choice for me as I live on his lands and within walking distance of the ruins of his castle...
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/1_zpstabaspod.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/2_zpsv4nnfxpx.jpg)
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/3_zps1ymhembk.jpg)
It's a bit over-officered at the moment, Sir John Edmonstone and Sir David Graham having been roped in to make up numbers; however I've found two buckshee pikemen in the pile that can take their place, and they will go on to form the start of a second men-at-arms unit...
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/5_zpsh4f70zn2.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/6_zpsyk3me55r.jpg)
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/10_zpsdvk1joyw.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/11_zps9uxylq5l.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/12_zps7ecr2nah.jpg)
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Cheers
Iain
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Wow that is some excellent painting great job
keep the updates coming!
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Most pleasing to the eye.
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I love 'em Iain!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Lovely paintwork Iain :-*
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Great work on a lovely range of figures Iain. :D
Would be some superb opposition for my Humbleton hill English.
Keep the updates coming.
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That is some painting. Love the banner.
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wow Iain you have done a great job on these mate
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Many thanks, gentlemen!
That is some painting. Love the banner.
Cheers, but I can't claim that; it's a pre-printed one from Flags of War. I was always a stickler for painting my own banners (with horrific results using enamels) until I came across these. Now I swear by 'em!
First of the Men-at-Arms unit; Sir George Dunbar, Earl of March.
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2019_zpskr9z87ts.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2020_zpsolrk6jv4.jpg)
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2022_zpswh3epuhl.jpg)
WIP on two more men-at-arms; Sir William Dalziel of Lanarkshire and Sir George Dunbar the Younger, who will be carrying his father's standard.
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2027_zpsl3v03glz.jpg)
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wow Iain you have done a great job on these mate
Ah! Speak of the Devil!
Cheers, glad you like 'em! More to follow...
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Great paining and I especially like the basing.
All around very well done...
Want to get those claymore stuff now... :o
Cheers,
Don
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Wow, If I played opposite them, they would win because I would be watching them and drooling! lol
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Truly beautiful work, Iain. I like how you mix some men-at-arms in with you serjeants: I love painting "heavies" and so try to slip them into every unit I can. I'll have to take a look at Claymore Castings, as these figures look very nice. Thanks for sharing, and happy gaming!
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Super impressed and jealous of your beautiful soldiers. Brilliant work!
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Very well done. :-* :-*
More please.
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Your reds and yellows really stand out well. I also really like the plaid/tartan cloak - plain, simple but very effective.
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The heraldry on the surcoats is beautifully executed. Wonderful stuff all around.
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Thanks for all the kind comments, gents, much appreciated!
Put the finishing touches on the second schiltrom this morning; this one lead by Sir John de Haga, with the saltire borne by Sir Robert Hert (Hart) of Lanark.
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/1_zpsdl12qd5d.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/2_zpspxogz88q.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/3_zpst4fyix5x.jpg)(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/4_zpsbpuotnmn.jpg)
Sir Robert's arms are conjectural; I couldn't find a definitive coat of arms for this individual, but of all the various permutations that turned up on the interwebs, this one seemed the most likely; as he was an adherent of Douglas, the similarity to the Douglas arms seemed plausible and since the other contender featured a field of green, a highly unusual colour in early Scots heraldry, as well as two secondary colours, so I decided to go with this. I've given the Saltire to him to carry, because both he and Sir David Colville are named in different sources as carrying Douglas' standard, in addition to Sir Archibald Douglas of Cavers carrying the Cavers Ensign. In the end I plumped for Colville with Douglas' standard, so Hert was the obvious choice to carry what I would have classed as Douglas' "other" banner during the campaign. it also fit neatly in with Sir John de Haga's arms.....
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/5_zps2vjubdcu.jpg)
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Thanks for looking!
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Very nice. :D
Great work on the surcoats.
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I'm loving these photos. Do you have any idea how Claymore fit with Perry figures?
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Cheers guys!
I'm loving these photos. Do you have any idea how Claymore fit with Perry figures?
I find the Claymore sculpts are noticably smaller, though a ot of people mix them quite happily. give me 5 mins and I'll post up a comparison.
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OK, as you can see, the Perry pikeman on the left is noticably bigger than the Claymore equivilant on the right (who, although in a slightly more "hunched" pose, is mounted on a thicker base).
However, a comparison of the Perry knight with the Claymore knight shows much more of a parity (both mounted on the same thickness base this time).
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/perry%20v%20claymore_zpsiotvm8le.jpg)
However, however, however, on putting the Perry knight back in his blister, I noticed that compared to the unarmoured musician in the same blister, he appears quite puny, so overall it seems that it differs on a figure by figure basis.
Overall, i've found the the claymore figures to be cleaner casts, with better definition of the fine detail, if possibly featuring less "intricate" detail than the Perry's in places. So pretty much swings nd roundabouts, then....
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They are looking good. I have been thinking of getting some Claymore figures myself and this has convinced me.
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Iain, thank you kindly, that was extremely helpful. I agree that the Claymore look like beautiful castings and can see they would be a lot of fun to paint up. While I really like the Perry HYW range, I have found their figures somewhat fiddly in detail in the past. Anyway, I'm most grateful for the information!
Daryl
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I aim to please.... lol
One (two?) more before bed, progress on Sir William and Sir George Jnr...
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2028_zpsgn75nsrm.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2029_zps8j6rqvm3.jpg)
Sir George will be wearing his father's arms (fnarrr) differenced with a label azure; conjectural, yes, but the most plausible I could come up with. Meanwhile, there is no historical basis for the claret and amber details on Sir Wiliam's Ahketon, but given his lands around Motherwell, it just seemed appropriate...
Cheers
Iain
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No problem, Arundel. The Claymore sculpts are a joy to paint.
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Crikey! Simply stunning.
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Great work Iain! Nice to see a Scottish army, we don't see many!
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Superb Iain :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Excellent work on the heraldry and a really great touch to have the different colour 'straps' on the harness- consider the idea stolen :D It's brushwork like this that get's me all excited 8)
Darrell.
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Cheers doods! Now back at work, so progress will be slower, unfortunately...
Nearly finished the current two knights, just leaving me three to do to complete the unit (and the force, if I want to go down the route of a very small and melee orientated one, with some mismatching figures...)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2040_zps7thpvfx9.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2041_zpsafj2sdbr.jpg)
...and have some peasants. I've got that many of the inglorious sods to work through that I did consider giving them their own thread; but I might as well just lump them together in here with the harbingers of their inevitable doom...
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/Peasant%207_zpsuw06nreu.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/Peasant%208_zpso2ilqayk.jpg)
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/Peasant%2010_zpsposlluj6.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/Peasant%2011_zpsyapro7j1.jpg)
These figures are the classic Foundry ones, which ooze character. I picked them up at Albanach last year, since they seemed the closest match to Claymore in terms of scale and sculpting style. they will inhabit a village (curretly under construction), which, with apologies to Captain Blood, will consist mainly of pre-cut MDF buildings... :D
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Absolutely gorgeous paint jobs!
Very well done.
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Love the classic Foundry mini's.... you've done an excellent job (again) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I've actually used a couple in my Verneuil army and they seem to fit seamlessly in when all painted up and based.
Darrell.
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I love the fact you've gone to the length of doing the heraldry underneath the knights belts and buckles! :o :o :o :o
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Thanks gents! The heraldry is a bit of a masochistic task, but I do enjoy the finished spectacle...
Sir George the Younger;
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2042_zpsltdwmffp.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2043_zpshyxxptgc.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2044_zpsyecpffac.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2045_zpshtehj1te.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2046_zpsjmw4dxcp.jpg)
Progress has slowed somewhat, as I've come over all Peninsular of late for some reason...
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Fantastic stuff, very inspirational :-*
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Excellent paintwork Iain. :D
The heraldry on the jupon is fantastic.
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That younger noble is excellently painted, great heraldry, bright colours, class metal and all! Top job!
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Really impressive work. They look very impressive, I wish I could paint as well. :)
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Superb stuff!
I love the banner - as a special rule, every time that particular banner survives a game, you will gain an extra 1pt of Glory. That's official :)
(And every time it doesn't survive… boo hiss -1 Glory)
Dan
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The new additions look every bit as wonderful as your earlier efforts. Very well done!
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Iain,
This project certainly has my attention and I'm extremely impressed by your tight crisp (and beautiful) painting style- keep 'em coming as they say!
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Darrell.
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Thank 'ee, chaps, you're too kind!
Sir William Dalziel of Lanarkshire, finally finished. I must admit, my fears that I was being a bit over-ambitious in opting to do him given his heraldry have been realised. Back to monotone heraldry methinks, enough of this "proper" colourisation nonsense!
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2047_zpsgdwcz9vt.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2048_zpsfqrpsrjz.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2049_zps4li9vp4o.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/WIP%2050_zpsn7r9bgnk.jpg)
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The shield looks great, and is nicely offset by the very dark armour.
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:-* :-* Excellent brushwork.
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Iain,
That is one superb rendition of his heraldic coat of arms mate!!!
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Just brilliant! Words fail me :)
Darrell.
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Some of the most brilliant heraldry I've ever seen in this thread, keep up the impressive work!
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Marvelous paint job,just out of curiosity the heraldic device is of ..... . ???
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Love them :-* :-*
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Very good Iain. :D
A great bit of painting.
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Stunning!
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Still wondering what the naked guy on the shield represents.. Can anyone advise ? Lovely minis and great paint job. :)
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Still wondering what the naked guy on the shield represents.. Can anyone advise ? Lovely minis and great paint job. :)
Found this:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nb4TAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=why+is+the+dalziel+coat+of+arms+a+naked+man&source=bl&ots=oetFCVrQi2&sig=AAChmXdYlWuw1CsTVA7z_O1rah8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAWoVChMIob6ykqKVxwIVigjbCh035g-g#v=onepage&q=why%20is%20the%20dalziel%20coat%20of%20arms%20a%20naked%20man&f=false
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Cheers Monkeylite,nice find,a good story and a fine source for the heraldry :)
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Lovely paintwork indeed!!!
Best regards Michael
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Just going to say the same thing everyone else has -- that shield looks lovely.
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Very nice!! Impressed.
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thanks for the many kind words, gents, and also for the background on Sir William's heraldry; I had no idea the story behind it!
I just decided to do him as a) I work in Motherwell (where there is a pub called, predictably, The Dalziel Arms, with a slightly stylised version of this heraldry as its logo) and felt a slight pang of loyalty; and b) I figured no one else would have done this (and I thought I'd make a better job of it...)
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Very nice figures and lovely painting! Currently reading through the Lion Rampant rules myself this is a nice push in the right direction ... 8)
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As promised (threatened?) I've made a start on a village for the lads to raid, using the ever-polarising MDF pre-paints, tarted up a bit. behold, the village of Dinsdale, small village in the East Marches, destined to be fought over repeatedly by various 28mm pewter factions. First appears in the Chronicle of Monte Paifon, a monk recording the Harrying of the North, where the village was terrorised by spear-carrying Normans (Spiny Normans, if you will) on the orders of William I.
Imagine my chagrin when I discovered that there actually is a village in County Durham called Dinsdale...
The village itself will largely consist of the pre-painted 4Ground buildings, tarted up with pretty bases and some small detailing additions, combined with the odd plastic or resin piece and some scratchbuilt odds 'n' ends.
First two houses done...
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/36_zpskrbhgy4o.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/37_zpsjm2wx7j6.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/38_zpsplzlcnoi.jpg)
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/39_zpslzx2qirl.jpg)
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/141N/44_zpssds4mzi8.jpg)
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Hello,
Excellent project !!! :-*
nikko
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Thanks Nikko!
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Gorgeous work!
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*PPPPPHHHHHHHWWWWWWWFFFFFFTTTT- blows dust and husks of long-dead spiders off thread*
Yeah. So. This project. While it has been largely neglected during my absence from the forums, I have actually progressed it a bit. Albeit slowly.
Presenting Sir John Swinton of Swinton.
The absolute legend that was. Sir John appears to be one of those charmed nutters that history occasionally throws up. Campaigned with John of Gaunt in France, where he was able to a) charge a double fee and free transport for himself, his horses and men, b) stipulate he was not required to fight against his countrymen and c) demand Gaunt was to replace any of his horses that were lost or taken. In return, he was to have one-third share in the ransom of Swinton’s future prisoners and in his other "profits of war".
Clearly not a man to be trifled with, he went back to Scotland after Alice Perrers stole his late wife's jewellery, and resumed normal service of being an unholy hurt-train at Otterburn. Went down fighting at Humbleton in 1402, and his son (also John) is one is those with a claim to the killing of Clarence at Bauge.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/1ZRJos.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pm1ZRJosj)
The image was taken for a FB group wherein discussion of the heraldry was the main point, so please excuse the fact I've cropped out a bit of his weapon. Fnaaar.