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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: FramFramson on June 02, 2015, 05:55:16 AM
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So there's a possibility that someone or other (not me!) might be commissioning a pack of interwar personalities. Nothing is set in stone yet, but for the sake of argument, what major figures from the interwar period can you think of who do NOT have a miniature and who would be useful for gaming?
The first figure in this potential pack would be the Emperor Haile Selassie figure.
A few names (some of whom would be young at the time) which came to mind were
Political, economic, or military leaders
- Oswald Mosley
- Mohandas Gandhi
- Basil Zaharoff
- Chiang-Kai Shek
- Mao Zedong
- Neville Chamberlain
- Rudolph Hess
- Franklin D. Roosevelt (wasn't able to figure out if he has a miniature version or not)
- Francisco Franco
- Billy Mitchell
Explorers and adventurers (I am missing many names here, no doubt)
- Wilfred Thesiger
- Richard E. Byrd
- Hiram Bingham III
- Jacques-Yves Cousteau (maybe just a bit too early for him, but who knows)
- Percy Fawcett
- George Kennan
- Howard Hughes
- Wiley Post
Scientific & Cultural icons (only so-so for gaming potential, but some of them are visually noteworthy)
- Charlie Chaplin
- Laurel & Hardy
- Buster Keaton
- Pablo Picasso
- Louis Armstrong
- Salvador Dalí
- Albert Einstein
- Auguste Piccard
Quite frankly a lot of these are bad suggestions because they would be wanted by so few people they'd be a losing proposition for the company making them. But some of them might have fans enough to make it all worthwhile. So speak up!
If it seems I'm missing someone obvious, it may also be the case that they already exists in miniature form. For instance, most of the nazi high command already exists, as do many famous actors from the 20's & 30's in their movie roles (there are probably three or four different versions of Errol Flynn or Humphrey Bogart). But make the suggestions anyway and we'll sort it all out.
If it were just me, I would also suggest probably my greatest hero, Smedley D. Butler, but I suspect that as amazing a fellow as he is, his fanclub is sadly far too tiny. Of the listed figures, I actually think The Little Tramp has some of the best gaming potential.
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That's a pretty comprehensive list... but I would probably add Ernest Hemingway to it. :)
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He exists already, figure 'PLP095 - Ernest' in Artizan's thrilling tales range. ;)
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I had forgotten him... I knew about their 'Eric Blair', but forgot him. Looks like we will have to dig pretty deep to add to that list then. ;)
Erm... Charles Lindbergh in politician mode? :)
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That's certainly another one for the list.
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H.G. Wells - very busy as a political propagandist between the wars, and, of course, the Father of Us All as wargamers.
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Unfeasibly does Stan & Ollie. https://www.unfeasibly.co.uk/product/new-recruits-stan-ollie/ (https://www.unfeasibly.co.uk/product/new-recruits-stan-ollie/) I would like a Smedley Butler too!
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And Pulp Figures does an Albert Einstein:
http://pulpfigures.com/products/view/23 (http://pulpfigures.com/products/view/23)
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An interesting and intriguing topic...
With my VBCW hat on and in addition to the aforementioned, I'd suggest:-
Stanley Baldwin
Cosmo Lang
Saunders Lewis
Clement Attlee
Aneurin Bevan
Harry Pollitt
Diana Moseley
William Joyce
JFC Fuller
Jorian Jenks
Arnold Leese
EDIT: Oh, and Roderick Spode of course!
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I'd pay for a Percy Fawcett figure but really it needs to be a pair with his son Jack. Actually, if you are going to do Fawcett you should really do a Peter Fleming (Ian's brother) because he wrote a most entertaining book about his search for Fawcett.
I know Brigade Games do a small range of Sandinistas but I don't think they do an Augusto Sandino figure.
Smedley Butler deserves a figure, as probably does Chesty Puller.
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry would be nice.
Of course the one figure I would dearly love would be a Ralph Bagnold figure. Spiritual father of the SAS and famous desert explorer.
Lampião, the legendary Brazilian bandit would be on my list as would Luis Carlos Prestes who lead a much longer "Long March' than Mao ever did.
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Unfeasibly does Stan & Ollie. https://www.unfeasibly.co.uk/product/new-recruits-stan-ollie/ (https://www.unfeasibly.co.uk/product/new-recruits-stan-ollie/) I would like a Smedley Butler too!
As would I. :D
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Just remembered another one from Fram's list. There's a Louis Armstrong (and also a Bessie Smith) in Eureka's 1920s jazzband set:
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_138&products_id=12394 (http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_138&products_id=12394)
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Yeah, I figured I might have overlooked some on my list who did have versions!
I wonder if an Anthony Eden might also have a place in the VBCW crowd?
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It would be really helpful to see the odd image of some of these people as I've said before this is way out of my comfort zone.
Matts come up with some good ideas but the figures I'm sculpting have to have a duel use,eg: haile selassie,also doubles as a westernised Arab leader.to make the cut.
One set will include Richard Todd,David Niven,and Jack Churchill.(although there not strictly inter war characters they'll be included because of the nature of the type men they were and the secondary use of the character in uniform)
Matt as you've set the ball rolling without asking for anything in return then consider your hero sculpted(just minus knowing who he was or what he looked, :D)
Mark.
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I can think of one person who should have a special place...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dcdHJtUXalE/TTM3g4h6HpI/AAAAAAAAC0U/jJGirXARzQ4/s400/Donald%2BFeatherstone.jpg)
Not really Interwar as such, but this famous member of 51st Battalion (Leeds Rifles) Royal Tank Regiment, should be a 'must buy' for most wargamers.
;)
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Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, maybe, if no one already makes one?
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It would be really helpful to see the odd image of some of these people as I've said before this is way out of my comfort zone.
Matts come up with some good ideas but the figures I'm sculpting have to have a duel use,eg: haile selassie,also doubles as a westernised Arab leader.to make the cut.
One set will include Richard Todd,David Niven,and Jack Churchill.(although there not strictly inter war characters they'll be included because of the nature of the type men they were and the secondary use of the character in uniform)
Matt as you've set the ball rolling without asking for anything in return then consider your hero sculpted(just minus knowing who he was or what he looked, :D)
Mark.
Bahaha, so you want to know about Smedley, do you?
Well he is certainly an interesting character. On the surface of things he should be a well-known American hero, having won the Medal of Honour twice (he even tried to return the first one he got), but things did not quite turn out that way.
I will relate a bit here, since his wiki page is a bit dry and does not feature even half of his colonial adventures. In brief, he was a Quaker who decided to join the marines and had quite a career. He had quite an illustrious career in the early 20th century fighting in American colonial holdings, first in China then mostly in Central America and the Caribbean. Some of the more notable anecdotes from this time were:
- His first ever deployment (in China) featured him doing a classic "rescue a wounded man from under a hail of enemy fire." He did this in spite of being shot in the thigh, while racked with illness and having an abscessed tooth so rotten the pain severely impaired him.
- In one central american mission His men were alone in a swamp, and he made a dangerous monthlong mostly solo journey to go get them some help after they had been completely abandoned by HQ. Had he not done so, it's quite possible that all the men of his command would have perished.
- In another central american mission his men were on a train in rebel territory, surrounded and outnumbered, but he sacred the rebels off by grabbing sacks of innocuous stuff and waving them at the enemy while yelling "Dynamite! dynamite!"
- In Haiti, he and only TWO other men charged a tiny entrance into a hilltop fort and took it, when the same fortress had held off an American force of 700 men for a week. This was one of his two medals of honour and a famous Marine corps painting was commissioned of the event.
During WWI, he demanded frontline service but was refused a transfer for many months, as they preferred to leave him as military governor of Cuba and he was not shall we say, politically popular. To be fair, all his previous experience was at the skirmish level and so we shall never know if Smedley's talents would have been equally robust at modern Division level warfare. Anyway, eventually, he was sent to France, but only as an administrative general well behind the lines. His most famous episode in France was when he took soldiers and had them requisition stores (especially duckboards to cover the mud floors of the trenches) at gunpoint for the immediate improvement of American trenches and the soldiers fighting in them - of all the fictional stories one might've heard of soldiers doing this sort of thing, this is the one instance I know of where it really did happen. Grateful doughboys started referring to him as "Old Duckboard" after that.
Following WWI, he spent some time in China managing warlords as part of the US military mission there (quite successfully at that), but earned several people's ire (including president Hoover) for badmouthing Mussolini publicly, and as a result he became the first American general officer placed under arrest since the civil war (he apologized and they dropped the matter).
But his military career wasn't even the whole story. For a while in the 1920's he took leave from the army at the request of the city of Philadelphia to become their police commissioner, mostly to clean up prohibition-related crime and government corruption. He had an impressive record, and raised the ire of the city's elite when he shuttered high-class speakeasies just as harshly as he did the working-class ones. He was impressively zealous and probably overreached in using military methods - the city had checkpoints and in some ways approached a military dictatorship and many of the population bemoaned his tendency to swear like a... well... a marine, during his radio addresses, but he was popular enough that the citizens of Philadephia demanded he stay on for a second year. After the second year Philadelphia was in much better shape, but Butler had worn out his welcome and away he went, calling the job the dirtiest one he'd ever done.
In spite of his impressive record, his failure to ingratiate himself politically meant he never became Marine commandant, so in 1931 he resigned. He could have retired, but instead he actually rethought his whole life, and started leaning very far left. he made a run for the Senate, but failed and for the rest of the 30's he gave lectures and speeches, often sharing the podium with communists (he stated he was not one himself, though he did become strongly leftist). In essence, he repudiated colonialism and his entire military career, something which must have taken more guts than even charging into enemy fire. What is probably his most famous quote comes from this time:
I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
Finally, he was well-known for his involvement in two of the most fascinating events during the American depression.
The first was the fact that he supported the bonus army, which were a large group of homeless WWI veterans encamped near Washington DC demanding payment of a bonus that would be due them later on so they could get by. At one point he visited the camp, ate with the soldiers, and gave a speech supporting them, telling them they had as much right to lobby the US government as any corporation. The next day, Doug MacArthur and George Patton led cavalry charges which destroyed the camp and killed or wounded many men, ending the bonus army's occupation.
The second was his involvement in the Business Plot, where a man, Gerald MacGuire, approached Butler claiming he represented powerful business interests (and provided some documentation to allegedly prove this claim) who wished to use idle, impoverished WWI veterans to stage a coup, with Butler (who was greatly respected by WWI vets) as a figurehead military dictator of the United States. Butler's response was to play for time, while he went directly to Roosevelt and reported the whole thing directly to the president. Fans of an American version of the VBCW are already well-familiar with this episode, but it remains surprisingly unknown. It resulted in government house hearings that went nowhere other than to confirm that MacGuire's claim did seem credible, but further investigation was dropped. To this there is an argument over whether the plot was real, or MacGuire was just a very well-connected con man playing some unknown game. To my mind that doesn't matter, because it was good enough that Smedley believed it was real and his actions demonstrate the highest possible character.
Interestingly, in the film Patton George C. Scott portrays Patton as having the gravelly voice of a confident, battle-hardened general. But Patton himself had a whiny, reedy, nasal voice, one which made him quite afraid of public speaking. The only film footage of Butler with sound, his testimony to congress, actually shows that he was the one who had such a voice. When George C. Scott does his "Patton" voice, that's actually the way Smedley sounded. Only usually with more swearing, I imagine.
When people argue about whether or not Patton should be treated as a hero, it always irks me that the Americans have a contemporary who was vastly more heroic in every possible sense of the word, a man for whom there's no such argument, and who needs no excuses made for his behaviour or actions, but it's Patton whose name lives on.
Here are some pictures, which you might find useful. You'll have to decide if you're sculpting for the 20's or 30's though, as the Marine uniform changed a great deal from the 10's to the 20's to the 30's. The first picture (and the smaller inset from the second one) is much earlier, probably the later teens, the rest are from the late 20's and early 30's. The last one is from his retirement. I have one of him giving speeches in civilian attire, but it's very small and not much use.
(http://i.imgur.com/KdP8UD2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/T2NVu2z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nov3ken.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jvxY0f7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JQ5d8gv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rc4eIVe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4bLplmg.jpg)
And here's some footage from his public statement on the Business Plot. The congressional testimony is on YouTube as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo1hp_LMGF8
...and I think this post just used up my entire 2015 allotment of gushing fanboyism on LAF for all of 2015.
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Okay any particular vintage of Jar head? lol
Oh and question for one and all is this a period devoid of note worthy women?as I see no reason to exclude them.
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Well, there are fewer women of course, but that doesn't mean there are none. The problem was that most of the interesting ones I could think of already have a miniature. Like there are probably two dozen figures that would stand in for Earhart.
But suggestions for additional ones would be good!
EDIT: The vintage is up to you. The problem is that you really either want a young one in marine field garb for circa WWI colonial gaming (I have photos of this too) or a postwar one for interwar fun. If it's postwar Butler you then have the choice of the later uniform (which is why I posted more shots of that) or civilian wear, which would just be a simple men's suit. Both of the latter would have "dual use" as you mentioned, one as a generic high-ranking marine, the other as an interwar civilian.
Personally, I like the civilian angle a hair more, since my own games are set after 1935 and more interwar/WWI civilians are useful anyway (there's a fair few, but not half so many as could be used), for other stuff, like VBCW.
But if you sculpted him in uniform, I'd use that without batting an eye (it was very rare for him to wear his uniform after retirement, but his bio mentioned it happened on one or two ceremonial occasions).
What does everyone else think?
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In addition to Louis Armstrong (and his band - all named), we do make a Laurel and Hardy in a panto horse costume. As I haven't managed to get it into the release schedule let, contact me if you are interested. We also have a George Formby available, and a lamppost. Another influential Inter-War figure in the UK at least.
Nic EUREKA MINIATURES
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I thought of a few women of the 30's for whom - as far as I know - there is no figure.
- Eleanor Roosevelt
- Judy Garland
- Starlets like Mae West, Rita Hayworth or, Marlena Dietrich (there are several generic stand-in minis for these, but no portraits of the more distinctive ones)
- Emma Tenayuca
- Frida Kahlo
- That Woman (apparently there was a limited edition version of her and Edward VII, but they were only giveaways a convention once? Not sure?)
I guess Leni Riefenstahl was pretty notable in several fields, but that's getting a bit creepy.
You could also maybe consider 2-3 handful of women industrial workers a la Rosie the Riveter, emblematic as homefront workers in American WWII games or VBCW games
Also, I don't think they'll work with your pack at all, but I wanted to mention that there's a grave shortage of interwar or WWI/II civilian children. Obviously these don't tend to get made since any war scenario with children is probably on the overly grim side, but pulp games have a more lighthearted place for kids. To the best of my knowledge the entire total is:
- A not-Short Round in a Bob Murch pack
- The little girl with the Lantern at Pulp Alley minis
- A small girl and boy in a French civilians pack by West Wind's Berlin or Bust line
- A pack of American interwar teen boys in Copplestone Castings' gangsters line
- Some schoolboys and a small girl in Gripping Beast's Woodbine
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I also remembered a big man no one has mentioned yet: Some version of Orson Welles!
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- Starlets like ... Marlena Dietrich
Marlene (note spelling)? Just a starlet? Pshaw! Anyway, a 3-pack, please: top hat and tights; white tie and tails; and gorilla suit.
- That Woman (apparently there was a limited edition version of her and Edward VII, but they were only giveaways a convention once? Not sure?)
Partizan. PanzerKaput posted a nicely painted That Woman here (solo photo just after the one of Margaret Thatcher):
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79115.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79115.0)
There was also a Princess Elizabeth mini freebie in a later year. The Partizan VCBW figures seem to be going for about £10-12 each on ebay.
there's a grave shortage of interwar or WWI/II civilian children
There's also a schoolboy in one of the Mutineer/Footsore civilian packs, and a little girl in the other. Pulp Figures has a pack of bowery boys, and a little girl and a baby with a bottle in another pack. Many of the Eureka Victorian street urchins, male and female, could be used (the urchin girls make up my 1950s/60s St Trinian's lower school), as could "Little Susan" from Black Tree's movie Doctor Who (http://Doctor Who) range.
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You could also maybe consider 2-3 handful of women industrial workers a la Rosie the Riveter, emblematic as homefront workers in American WWII games or VBCW games
Rosie the riveter, Wendy the welder and 'Ronnie' the Bren Gun girl'?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s5sKBpUSym0/VW63Ihr-KkI/AAAAAAAAUgY/O7oABQexJGA/w640-h473-no/e000760403.jpg)
If you want something more martial, there is Fanny Schoonheyt 'La Reina de Ametralladora'
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/PbwylCXyi0tRxFjhnpNXN5lklUXWRIWe0O64pvqs2M5o=w376-h493-no)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1qtb2Eoxepc/VW63H3K3YgI/AAAAAAAAUgM/1mTqikmB0s0/w337-h493-no/Fanny.jpg)
There is also the iconic Marina Ginestà.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PiPHNuk4FQc/VW63IVCzcHI/AAAAAAAAUgQ/U_B0UcBcs-k/w740-h493-no/Marina-Ginesta.jpg)
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Well, 28mm versions of those excellent Miniarons 18mm SCW female fighters would be amazing.
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Very interested a few more pics and I think I'd look at doing eight women along these lines,These pictures cover the concept very well both a person in One period and a figure which will transfer into another as a useful miniature.
Mark.
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How about Fay Taylour?
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2362394913_3913040db8.jpg)
(http://www.500race.org/Men/Fay%20Taylour%20in%20Cooper.jpg)
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/2c72b7706d43bc88ad3d69bc83041f58/tumblr_nf94gnnLid1sm59aeo1_500.jpg)
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Ooh, and how about the Mitford sisters?
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/9/26/1411743438649/The-Mitford-sisters---Uni-014.jpg)
Oswald Moseley...
(http://www.prisonersofeternity.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/mosley3.jpg)
(http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/16/133916-004-F0B47751.jpg)
(http://images.npg.org.uk/800_800/7/6/mw66776.jpg)
Stanley Baldwin...
(http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/0/3/mw189103.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3TaZjv_DP1g/UZ4UgjaXujI/AAAAAAAAAkI/1H6hgSrSbSo/s200/Stanley-Baldwin-9196751-1-402.jpg)
Cosmo Lang...
(http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/6/7/mw214867.jpg)
(http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/5/1/mw131651.jpg)
Saunders Lewis (right)...
(http://www.ylolfa.com/lluniau/ytri.jpg)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/1030db9d29f3cfb4aa4e2db562b402cd212e7b5b.jpg)
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Clement Attlee...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Newly_appointed_British_Prime_Minister_Clement_Attlee_stands_at_the_entrance_to_his_residence_shortly_after_his..._-_NARA_-_198917.jpg)
(http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/38/main/96/676538.jpg)
Harry Pollitt...
(http://www.tameside.gov.uk/tmbc_images/leisure/new/bp_1904.jpg)
(http://www.communistpartyarchive.org.uk//thumbnails/cp-ind-poll_tn.jpg)
Joyce...
(http://www.nndb.com/people/443/000028359/lord-haw-haw.jpg)
(http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hawhaw.jpg)
JFC Fuller...
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpzklt8cSV1qgaa6m.jpg)
Roderick Spode...
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/go3NWaMxwfg/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HPxdidTDFI8/TLfgHsmK1AI/AAAAAAAAACA/_ZNXz9xMkRg/s320/SPode+uniform.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/RoderickSpode.jpg)
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Old Boney Is a possible.
Black shirts and "scouts " possible(I've sold a couple of bespoke scouts sets before.) again all have duel uses.
Please keep posting pictures as the more the merrier!
Mark
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Picking up on an earlier comment, it does make sense to make packs that follow a single theme.
So HS himself would go well with other similar figures; Badoglio, Orde Wingate, the female RR armoured car commander from the Wilbur Smith book 'Cry Wolf', Jan Smuts, Evelyn Waugh and anyone tenuously linked with Abyssinia in the Interwar/WWII era for example.
The same would follow for other themes.
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Glad to see George Formby on the list.
How about Norman Wisdom? Could be a big seller on the Albanian market :~}
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Glad to see George Formby on the list.
How about Norman Wisdom? Could be a big seller on the Albanian market :~}
:D Yep, he's was Enver Hoxha's secret weapon, the secret anti-comedy ray.
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lol
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Eureka do a George Formby :)
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Eureka do a George Formby :)
Do pay attention at the back there.
In addition to Louis Armstrong (and his band - all named), we do make a Laurel and Hardy in a panto horse costume. As I haven't managed to get it into the release schedule let, contact me if you are interested. We also have a George Formby available, and a lamppost. Another influential Inter-War figure in the UK at least.
Nic EUREKA MINIATURES
:D
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Do pay attention at the back there.
He couldn't see, the lady in front of him hasn't removed her hat. ;)
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*Slaps forehead*
Sorry, must've nodded off during that bit - it's me age...
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Matt just drop me a couple of pics of your man in his 20's field uniform and that of your standard marine and I'll do a four figure set.the sooner you do the sooner I can start.
Jon I'll do Spode,Moseley,and a couple of far right 'scouts '(I can't bring myself to do a serious set for this)and a bunch of armed Boy Scouts just to balance it out.
For the female fighters I'll go with the three in the pictures but leaves me one short so any ideas/pictures for the forth,
I'm still undecided as to what to put with'H.S' but that'll come in time. lol
As for film starts I don't feel they're a topic for this range,However characters portrayed by them might have a place further down the line.(you don't make a Harrison Ford you make an professor Jones junior,)
Some of these will take some time as I'll be fitting them in as and when.
Mark.
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For female fighters, there is
Cherie Eileen Blair - George Orwell's wife, but I can't get a clear picture of her in 'visiting the trenches' fashion. There is also Mika Feldman de Etchebéhère - the only female to gain the rank of captain in the Republican Army.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bbjG3BM0Dn8/VXfHoy_n5cI/AAAAAAAAU3A/Jx2aFOqCehs/w333-h493-no/Mika_Etcheb%25C3%25A9h%25C3%25A8re.jpg)
Or you could go for a more active version of this nameless lass...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y4GyY22EEa8/VXfIqz85KhI/AAAAAAAAU3Q/PkIH9JDH-0o/w366-h488-no/female.jpg)
For H.I.M. how about doing him on his ass?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TexscqEyLpc/VXfNfaYUYgI/AAAAAAAAU3o/X6q_6n4n2aU/w473-h309-no/fig092.jpg)
I'm guessing the parasol bearer looks like the other guys around him.
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I guess some Ethiopian civilians or "characters" might work, but that really makes it feel even more like he should be sold with Empress' line for that war.
I really think my best guess is a collection of interwar leaders or dignitaries who haven't been done before - OR with other VBCW personalities (tying Selassie to VBCW, as he would have have been in England for several years already during any such war). You could do it as a "heroes" and "villains" two-pack set, one with Selassie and perhaps Attlee, Cosmo Lang, and someone else (the more colourful the better!) and the other with Spode and Moseley and the other no-goodniks.
With the dignitaries, who else is there, really? I've racked my brains and did come up with Haakon VII of Norway (another fine fellow), and maybe a young, prewar/WWII partisan Josip Tito, but I think piling in the Emperor with the VBCW crew is both funnier and more likely to sell.
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Jon I'll do Spode,Moseley,and a couple of far right 'scouts '(I can't bring myself to do a serious set for this)and a bunch of armed Boy Scouts just to balance it out.
That's cracking mate! The advantage of doing Blackshorts, as opposed to Blackshirts, is that they're fictional, and poke fun at the latter, so no need to feel too uncomfortable.
You could do it as a "heroes" and "villains" two-pack set, one with Selassie and perhaps Attlee, Cosmo Lang, and someone else (the more colourful the better!) and the other with Spode and Moseley and the other no-goodniks.
Now that is a very good idea!
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In a pack like that, you could still have an Ethiopian "loyal bodyguard" or something for the Emperor, if you wanted to, or were at a loss for a character too round out the pack.
It just makes sense to me that Selassie would have been involved with VBCW in some way, as he was also a capable veteran general, with experience fighting Fascists and a VERY strong incentive to want to smash them. And it's silly in that perfectly VBCW "kitchen sink" sort of way.
This lets you also have a consistent theme to the packs, while still allowing a pretty wide range of possible figures.
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You could just paint the parasol as an umbrella and the ass as a seaside donkey, job done. ;)
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You could just paint the parasol as an umbrella and the ass as a seaside donkey, job done. ;)
I worry that the heat and an exotic diet is taking its toll on you old chum. :D Painting your arse to look like a donkey? Gee up Pedro.
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Anything goes in VBCW. It's a poor man's pantomime animal. ;)
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I'd add an SCW personality set - Robert Capa
Gerda Toro
Martha Gelhorn
Delores Ibruarri (La Pasionaria)
George Orwell (a thinnner, lankier one than Artizan does)