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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Atheling on 06 June 2015, 04:01:12 PM
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Here you go:
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/plates/photo-4.JPG)
Darrell.
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They look lovely though I really hope the prostrate are in a separate pack to the kneeling/standing. 8)
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They look lovely though I really hope the prostrate are in a separate pack to the kneeling/standing. 8)
From Facebook "Fallschirmjager latest.
These codes are off to be moulded. They include one of 3 x mg 34 teams and one of AT rifle team, 50mm mortar team plus a sniper and spotter. The first four codes should be out in a couple of weeks."
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Thanks very much Helen. I 'need' 4 MG teams and 4 out of 6 works for me. :D
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Just spotted this in one of the Facebook comments:
Hello Seth, a 37mm will follow and probably a recoilless rifle.[snip].
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They look lovely though I really hope the prostrate are in a separate pack to the kneeling/standing. 8)
Prone figures can be awkward gaming-wise.
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Prone figures can be awkward gaming-wise.
Yeah, I tend to ditch them :o
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Thanks very much Helen. I 'need' 4 MG teams and 4 out of 6 works for me. :D
No probs Steve. I prefer kneeling or standing, but will use the odd prone miniature as suitable for basing as a FO or similar.
If Michael doesn't get around to making some sort of panzer grenadier then I'll use a different head with the FJ figures if they are suitable.
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Very excited about this! :D
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I will most likely pick some up -- but I don't get the excitement.... FJs sculpted by the Perrys have been on sale of years and years through Wargames Foundry and very nice they are too. I am hoping these new ones will fill the gaps in that range.
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I will most likely pick some up -- but I don't get the excitement.... FJs sculpted by the Perrys have been on sale of years and years through Wargames Foundry and very nice they are too. I am hoping these new ones will fill the gaps in that range.
The main difference being that the Perry style has moved on to an arguably more dynamic style and that the new models are true 1/56 and not 28mm.
Darrell.
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In the aforementioned FB comments the Perrys are asked if these new minis will match Foundry and reply:
I haven't checked the size comparison but i'd imagine these would be a little taller but less chunky.
Which might matter to some and be irrelevant to others, though of course neither extreme is right or wrong.
:)
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This is a great addition to their WWII range with a very "Mediterranean" usefulness. A great and solid range. My only complaint about Perry Miniatures is that their metal miniatures appear to be unfinished, very different to their old Foundry models.
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This is a great addition to their WWII range with a very "Mediterranean" usefulness. A great and solid range. My only complaint about Perry Miniatures is that their metal miniatures appear to be unfinished, very different to their old Foundry models.
How do you mean unfinished Juan?
Darrell.
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The main difference being that the Perry style has moved on to an arguably more dynamic style and that the new models are true 1/56 and not 28mm.
Darrell.
Interesting point. I have a lot of Perry Foundry and Perry Miniatures Perry, and in my personal view the Foundry versions are better in quality though I have no idea if that is down to sculpting or casting. I don't have any of the Perrys' new WWII stuff so I don't know how it is in terms of size...
How do you mean unfinished Juan?
Darrell.
On their Sudan range some of the casting quality is iffy in terms of detail like faces... and on a lot of them it seems like they got to the feet and just couldn't quite be bothered finishing the model and it ends up with tiny detail-less lumps instead of feet in boots...
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Interesting point. I have a lot of Perry Foundry and Perry Miniatures Perry, and in my personal view the Foundry versions are better in quality though I have no idea if that is down to sculpting or casting. I don't have any of the Perrys' new WWII stuff so I don't know how it is in terms of size...
I see your point, everyone has their own perspective. The Perry sculpts are more dynamic IMHo than the stuff that they did for Foundry.
On their Sudan range some of the casting quality is iffy in terms of detail like faces... and on a lot of them it seems like they got to the feet and just couldn't quite be bothered finishing the model and it ends up with tiny detail-less lumps instead of feet in boots...
It being one of my main areas of interest I do know what you mean. The models need re-moulding. I just wonder how long the moulds actually last given the volume that Perry Miniatures sell worldwide?
Darrell.
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How do you mean unfinished Juan?
Darrell.
Yes, Darrell, unfinished, not complete.
I am painting a full platoon of Italian infantry in this moment and I dislike a lot the figures. They have very bad faces, very bad weapons, very bad finished trousers and coats, unfinished webbing... I think Perry Miniatures is going too fast with their metal figures and they have lost the quality of their Foundry models. And this is not a problem of a worn out mould, but of the sculptor, IMHO.
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I actually prefer the prostrate figures: one because that's the main way the weapons were actually used, and two because it makes it much easier to spot the machine gun in a crowd of tightly clustered figures. I do agree that they can be tough to wedge into terrain and fit into tight spaces however. Each to his own I suppose and they've been nice enough to provide both options :)
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Yes, Darrell, unfinished, not complete.
I am painting a full platoon of Italian infantry in this moment and I dislike a lot the figures. They have very bad faces, very bad weapons, very bad finished trousers and coats, unfinished webbing... I think Perry Miniatures is going too fast with their metal figures and they have lost the quality of their Foundry models. And this is not a problem of a worn out mould, but of the sculptor, IMHO.
Fair enough. I'm not so sure that I agree but there you go- that's wargamers for you lol
Just out of interest, do these look unfinished to you?:
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I actually prefer the prostrate figures: one because that's the main way the weapons were actually used, and two because it makes it much easier to spot the machine gun in a crowd of tightly clustered figures. I do agree that they can be tough to wedge into terrain and fit into tight spaces however. Each to his own I suppose and they've been nice enough to provide both options :)
Oh yes, each to their own :). Their pack mix, with one pair each of prone, kneeling and standing, is a reasonable compromise.
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Darrell, the painting work is wonderful. I think Rafa "Archiduque" and you are able to paint these figures in the way they need to be painted.
I have been a fan of the Perry Twins since their time in Foundry, having enjoyed a lot of their ranges, and I like the way in which they build, as Perry Miniatures, their different ranges/periods of figures, with a lot of options and packs for everything you need. For that reason I am buying their WWII figures, because no one have a so complete catalogue. But I´m unable to understand why they have not the quality level of Empress Miniatures, by example. Of course, this is only my personal opinion.
Coming back to the subject, I´m very happy with these Fallschirmjagers, and I expect there will be some Greek infantry in the pipeline... Creta would be a very interesting gaming project.
Cheers!
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Yes, Darrell, unfinished, not complete.
I am painting a full platoon of Italian infantry in this moment and I dislike a lot the figures. They have very bad faces, very bad weapons, very bad finished trousers and coats, unfinished webbing... I think Perry Miniatures is going too fast with their metal figures and they have lost the quality of their Foundry models. And this is not a problem of a worn out mould, but of the sculptor, IMHO.
I agree with you Juan with your observations. I have quite a few WW2 Italians bought from the Perries. Some of the Italians I'm working on at the moment especially in steel helmet do have unfinished touches. The greenstuff has not be cleaned away or has not been smoothed or completed detail prior to moulding. I was wondering if it was me right from the outset with cleaning, undercoating and painting. Looking at the bare metal I can see now more clearly. I was not paying attention to the miniature from the start.
Besides these small minor irritations I still love the miniatures and converting them and would not look elsewhere for options. Michael designs lovely miniatures that have plenty of charm. I'll always remain a supporter of Perries and their miniature range.
Cheers,
Helen